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KA-BAR Dozier D2 Folding Hunter Lockback Knife (Blue) Expired
$24.40
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Smoky Mountain Knife Works has KA-BAR Dozier D2 Folding Hunter Lockback Knife (Blue) on sale for $24.41. Shipping is free.
Thanks community member StrongDolphin812 for sharing this deal
Features:
Thanks community member StrongDolphin812 for sharing this deal
Features:
- Blade Thickness: .11"
- Blade Length: 3"
- Overall Length: 7.25"
- Closed Length: 4.25"
- Edge Type: Plain
- Handedness: Ambidextrous
- Lock Type: Lockback
- Blade Style: Drop Point
- Handle Material: Steel
- Finish: Titanium Nitride
- Pocket Clip: Ambidextrous Tip-Up
- Opener: Ambidextrous Thumb Studs
- Blade Material: D2 Tool Steel
- Knife Style: EDC
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Edited May 21, 2022
at 04:44 PM
Pretty solid deal at $24 compared to the Amazon price of $40. D2 steel!
https://www.smkw.com/kabar-dozier...-steel-blu $24.41
https://www.smkw.com/kabar-dozier...-steel-blu $24.41
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Actually, unlike most now made in Asia, that was/is a low end decent knife that was made in Columbia, MO. Perhaps legitimate, they were limited to 1,000, but still selling, I have to wonder where the distributor is still finding them and if or how many numbers are now duplicated.
Interesting knife but I'm just not a fan of the tanto blades.
You must come to wrong thread, Gerber is the one that you should visit.
Dyed, powdered, painted, etc., call it what you want... but my comment was a joke that went way over your head. It is impossible to have both of those metals in the same blade unless it is a Damascus.... which it is not. It is the typical Asian advertisement of throwing everything out there for some idiot to bite. Hence, dyed for D2.
Lighten up Frances, we are talking junk knives mass produced in Asia.
Asia is a broad statement. Japan and South Korea are Asian. In case you woke up from a coma, Japan and South Korea are in Asia. They are high tech, loyal democratic allies that design and produce very high quality products. TSMC is one of the most advanced electronic fabrication facilities on planet earth and is located in Taiwan, as is Hon Hai (aka Foxconn). They make pretty much half the world's CPU and GPUs and most of Apple's subcomponents, ya know, simple stuff lol.
Made in Asia is not the same as designed in Asia, and designed in Asia is not the same as designed in China, or Vietnam, or North Korea for that matter. The source of design is most important, followed by how fabrication is being overseen. Would you prefer to trust your family's safety in a vehicle designed by Toyota and built in China under Japanese oversight, or something designed by SAIC Motors in China but built in the United States under Chinese oversight? Crickets...
It isn't an asian advertisement, it's advertised on a deal site hosted in San Francisco, for a knife sold by a company in Tennessee, designed by a legendary American company still based in Olean, NY
It actually IS possible to have multiple metals in the same blade that isn't damascus. There are composite blades that use a copper brazed joint to hold two different steels together.
You've been officially served.
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Asia is a broad statement. Japan and South Korea are Asian. In case you woke up from a coma, Japan and South Korea are in Asia. They are high tech, loyal democratic allies that design and produce very high quality products. TSMC is one of the most advanced electronic fabrication facilities on planet earth and is located in Taiwan, as is Hon Hai (aka Foxconn). They make pretty much half the world's CPU and GPUs and most of Apple's subcomponents, ya know, simple stuff lol.
Made in Asia is not the same as designed in Asia, and designed in Asia is not the same as designed in China, or Vietnam, or North Korea for that matter. The source of design is most important, followed by how fabrication is being overseen. Would you prefer to trust your family's safety in a vehicle designed by Toyota and built in China under Japanese oversight, or something designed by SAIC Motors in China but built in the United States under Chinese oversight? Crickets...
It isn't an asian advertisement, it's advertised on a deal site hosted in San Francisco, for a knife sold by a company in Tennessee, designed by a legendary American company still based in Olean, NY https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...2/facepalm.gif They still design and manufacture high quality knives, many of which are American made, many of which are still registered with the DOD with a NSN. This isn't some relic brand bought up by the Chinese that stamp a familiar name onto communist junk.
It actually IS possible to have multiple metals in the same blade that isn't damascus. There are composite blades that use a copper brazed joint to hold two different steels together.
You've been officially served.
Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Yea, that was a rhetorical question. China/Taiwan with China being #1 synonymous for junk and Taiwan being #2 for junk.... When you have nothing else, pull the race card. Meanwhile, understand the difference between East Asia, South Asia and Asia.
From immense competition, Asian sellers are notorious for their advertisements that try to outdo each other for attention by including everything but the kitchen sink. Who cares where a website is hosted? As well, you can buy a Bowie knife from China and you somehow think it is the same as the original? And no, the DOD is not buying any of this junk and no, it is not in their catalog to be purchased outside of bidding by any SF group.
"Served" is your illiteracy like the rest of your post.
Now, go buy some junk.... or, are you just shilling? Yea, that was another rhetorical question.
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If you want to have an adult conversation, be civil, on topic and minimize personal attacks.
You corrected nothing.
You corrected nothing.
Anyway, for clarity, just so that no one is confused, the original linked knife is indeed D2 steel, as advertised on Ka-bar's own site:
https://www.kabar.com/products/pr...tem=4062D2
https://www.kabar.com/products/th...bob-dozier
Anyway, for clarity, just so that no one is confused, the original linked knife is indeed D2 steel, as advertised on Ka-bar's own site:
https://www.kabar.com/products/pr...tem=4062D2
The list price on this particular model is higher than the similar-looking Dozier folders that have AUS 8A steel:
https://www.kabar.com/products/th...bob-dozier
Technically, D2 is premium steel while AUS-8 is mid range budget steel. Same pricing applies to Ontario Rat II, the D2 version costs $15 extra and still hard to find on major retailers. These 2 knives are made in Taiwan while many other similar ones (D2) are made in China; this is the reason why this knife is being a deal: Made in Taiwan, D2, reputable brand and mostly importantly, cheaper price.
Anyway, for clarity, just so that no one is confused, the original linked knife is indeed D2 steel, as advertised on Ka-bar's own site:
https://www.kabar.com/products/pr...tem=4062D2 [kabar.com]
The list price on this particular model is higher than the similar-looking Dozier folders that have AUS 8A steel:
https://www.kabar.com/products/th...bob-dozier [kabar.com]
You are still spouting misinformation including what might be possible, but here is the deal. Buy whatever you want to buy, as nobody cares. Why do you think they moved manufacturing out of the USA? Personally, I don't collect junk knives and today's made in Asia Ka-bar is junk!
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Now, I know my Asian friends make quality, or can make quality products, but that is not what the world wants, or will pay for because of created reputation that will not easily go away. They are in business to make a profit and simply providing ignorant Americans what is perceived as a deal. Granted, they increasingly stretch the description to keep up with the competition that does same, so you need to have some idea of what is potentially realistic. The USA, the world is flooded with fakes and counterfeits that did not just begin yesterday and they all come from one main source.
You are still spouting misinformation including what might be possible, but here is the deal. Buy whatever you want to buy, as nobody cares. Why do you think they moved manufacturing out of the USA? Personally, I don't collect junk knives and today's made in Asia Ka-bar is junk!
I've linked directly to the manufacturer's product page where it clearly states in both the description and the technical details that the knife in question has D2 steel. The images of the product itself also bear a D2 mark on the blade itself.
If you have proof that the manufacturer is lying and is falsely advertising a D2 steel knife that does not, in fact, have a D2 steel blade, you should post that proof for others to consider.
I've provided my evidence; where is yours?
Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Yea, that was a rhetorical question. China/Taiwan with China being #1 synonymous for junk and Taiwan being #2 for junk.... When you have nothing else, pull the race card. Meanwhile, understand the difference between East Asia, South Asia and Asia.
From immense competition, Asian sellers are notorious for their advertisements that try to outdo each other for attention by including everything but the kitchen sink. Who cares where a website is hosted? As well, you can buy a Bowie knife from China and you somehow think it is the same as the original? And no, the DOD is not buying any of this junk and no, it is not in their catalog to be purchased outside of bidding by any SF group.
"Served" is your illiteracy like the rest of your post.
Now, go buy some junk.... or, are you just shilling? Yea, that was another rhetorical question.
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If you want to have an adult conversation, be civil, on topic and minimize personal attacks.
You corrected nothing.
Ok, lets hit these one at a time, shall we?
- You said Asia. I know the differences. You delineated nothing, and only made a wide reaching slight on an entire region and race of people. I...I repeat...I demarcated the groups, and aimed my issues at communist design houses.
- There is no "asian" advertising here, lol. Again, it's a product designed by a U.S. company with a target market in mind, which was then advertised for sale by a company in Tennessee, and is now being advertised second handedly on Slickdeals.
- Where a website is hosted is important, absolutely and in this context. Absolutely as you can't trust data that's curated by those known to censor and revision the truth, such as the communists. In context because, no advertisements are being hosted by any "asian" entities
- I never mentioned anything about chinese bowie knives lol, nor did I say they would be identical. That said, if you had Ka-Bar designs being produced in Olean, NY and in China under Ka-Bar's supervision, I'm confident the differences would be minimal, other than the costs. Domestic designed and manufactured knives can't compete on price, or quality/price ratio, so they compete on quality alone many times. Domestic manufacturers like Microtech, Benchmade, Kershaw, and yes Ka-Bar do make higher end models with tighter tolerances domestically, so they can charge higher prices. There is a pride to owning a US made blade, partially because one is supporting their fellow countrymen and industry, but also in part because GENERALLY they do tend to be better for the aforementioned reason, not because the "asians" can't make nice knvies. They weren't contracted to do so.
- Some DOD allowances must be spent on items with national stock numbers. My older brother did 3 tours in Iraq, 2 in a ranger regiment. I'm aware how it works. Not all products make the list, they must be approved. The US military has a pretty good track record of taking care of business, so I'll trust their trust in Ka-Bar.
- I don't buy junk. I mentioned I usually only carry US made knives. Right now I have a Microtech UTX-85 proudly made by good ole' boys in North Carolina, and I'm proud to carry it. That said, I'd proudly carry this, just for different reasons.
Again. Served. How are you still hungry?
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You are still spouting misinformation including what might be possible, but here is the deal. Buy whatever you want to buy, as nobody cares. Why do you think they moved manufacturing out of the USA? Personally, I don't collect junk knives and today's made in Asia Ka-bar is junk!
===========
Now, I know my Asian friends make quality, or can make quality products, but that is not what the world wants, or will pay for because of created reputation that will not easily go away. They are in business to make a profit and simply providing ignorant Americans what is perceived as a deal. Granted, they increasingly stretch the description to keep up with the competition that does same, so you need to have some idea of what is potentially realistic. The USA, the world is flooded with fakes and counterfeits that did not just begin yesterday and they all come from one main source.
Second of all, quality control is the key factor that matters when companies shift their product lines out of US, for example, Foxconn is making iPhones for Apple, iPhones are the best quality phones in the market, while they also produce some shitty products out of same factory, large companies can provide top tier training and quality control on their products being produced overseas. Speaking of knives, heat treatment is the key, some companies make good quality knives from low end steel, while some companies make shitty knives from premium steel.
Third, there are reasons why companies moved their product lines out of US: labor cost, corporate taxes, etc. Many of them still keep certain product lines in US in order to attract more buyers, from marketing prospective, that's why some products cost a lot more than others, being under same brand name.
Forth, workers from Asian countries produce good and cheap products because of their flexibility, hardworking and lower labor cost, or you have to pay 3X, 4X, 5X on almost everything that you have bought.
Last, not all Asian made products are cheap, they own patents, particularly Japan; for example, the components in every single cell phone, camera, computer, etc.