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Acer Aspire XC Desktop: i3-10105, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Win 10 (Refurbished)

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Acer via eBay has Acer Aspire XC Desktop (XC-1660G-UW92, Certified Refurbished) for $202.39 (price reflected in cart). Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • Intel i3-10105 4-Core 3.70 GHz Processor
  • 8GB DDR4 Memory
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.0
  • Optical Drive Type: DVD-Writer
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Ports:
    • 2x HDMI
    • 4x USB 2.0 Ports
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A Ports
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A Port
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C Port
    • 1x RJ-45

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  • About this product:
    • Certified Refurbished: This item is Certified Refurbished. It has been professionally restored by an Acer approved vendor. Units are usually cosmetically indistinguishable from New products, but some may show signs of light use. Functionally, these units are equivalent to New. Certified Refurbished units will be shipped in a New Brown Box
    • Includes a 2-year Allstate warranty
  • About this store:
    • Acer via eBay return policy: 30 days returns | Seller pays for return shipping

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Acer via eBay has Acer Aspire XC Desktop (XC-1660G-UW92, Certified Refurbished) for $202.39 (price reflected in cart). Shipping is free.

Thanks to Quality Assurance actorps1 for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Intel i3-10105 4-Core 3.70 GHz Processor
  • 8GB DDR4 Memory
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.0
  • Optical Drive Type: DVD-Writer
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Ports:
    • 2x HDMI
    • 4x USB 2.0 Ports
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A Ports
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A Port
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C Port
    • 1x RJ-45

Editor's Notes

Written by CChoiVA
  • About this product:
    • Certified Refurbished: This item is Certified Refurbished. It has been professionally restored by an Acer approved vendor. Units are usually cosmetically indistinguishable from New products, but some may show signs of light use. Functionally, these units are equivalent to New. Certified Refurbished units will be shipped in a New Brown Box
    • Includes a 2-year Allstate warranty
  • About this store:
    • Acer via eBay return policy: 30 days returns | Seller pays for return shipping

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Jul 4, 2022 4:08 PM
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AquaGalley8616Jul 4, 2022 4:08 PM
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Quote from paul3000 View quoted comment :
I have the XC-1660G-UW92. Good to know it's PCI 3.0 but I wonder after looking at benchmarks to go with a cheaper small form factor GPU instead of the RX6400.
If you look through these i3-10th gen threads, which there are a few, you will see that someone bought a few , it think the gt1050 OC and he states it works great. I did ask him in post to share his USERBenchMark score, and he never posted it. I did post my plain i3-10th gen Acer score, and was hoping he could tell us how much improvement it makes in comparision.

I would be VERY careful, the price of graphics cards is still very high, they are coming down. I have heard in the fall , mining will stop using graphics cards and switch to another method. And some YouTubers are saying massive flood of these graphics cards will be on ebay.

Maybe since you just got your very good i3-10th gen, test it out. Maybe get an extra 8gb of ram (30 dollars), because it will improve your gaming and help the userbenchmark score. You can play games with the INTEL 630, so test it out for a few weeks.

I guess you can get gf 1060 card , just be very careful you get the one recommended. Maybe other guys in thread can suggest something for you. I say WAIT. The rx-6400 would be still a good choice , I think I was saying in earlier post to watch YOUTUBE videos of people showing how the game works in pci-4th gen mode, and pci-3rd gen mode, and even pci-2nd gen mode. So if you get that card it is more future-proof if you get another pc down the road that is pci-4th gen (like the i5-11th gen). I did watch those videos and so should you, if you are interested in seeing actual gameplay of different games, and maybe watch videos of INTEL 630 in gameplay. At this point , have fun with your new PC.

P.S. to help clarify the difference it just putting 16gb ram in this device compared to just 8gb ram. Here is same i3-10th gen PC Userbenchtest with 8gb and 16gb. See sceen shots.
Last edited by AquaGalley8616 July 4, 2022 at 10:12 AM.
Jul 4, 2022 8:56 PM
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paul3000Jul 4, 2022 8:56 PM
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Quote from AquaGalley8616 View quoted comment :
If you look through these i3-10th gen threads, which there are a few, you will see that someone bought a few , it think the gt1050 OC and he states it works great. I did ask him in post to share his USERBenchMark score, and he never posted it. I did post my plain i3-10th gen Acer score, and was hoping he could tell us how much improvement it makes in comparision.

I would be VERY careful, the price of graphics cards is still very high, they are coming down. I have heard in the fall , mining will stop using graphics cards and switch to another method. And some YouTubers are saying massive flood of these graphics cards will be on ebay.

Maybe since you just got your very good i3-10th gen, test it out. Maybe get an extra 8gb of ram (30 dollars), because it will improve your gaming and help the userbenchmark score. You can play games with the INTEL 630, so test it out for a few weeks.

I guess you can get gf 1060 card , just be very careful you get the one recommended. Maybe other guys in thread can suggest something for you. I say WAIT. The rx-6400 would be still a good choice , I think I was saying in earlier post to watch YOUTUBE videos of people showing how the game works in pci-4th gen mode, and pci-3rd gen mode, and even pci-2nd gen mode. So if you get that card it is more future-proof if you get another pc down the road that is pci-4th gen (like the i5-11th gen). I did watch those videos and so should you, if you are interested in seeing actual gameplay of different games, and maybe watch videos of INTEL 630 in gameplay. At this point , have fun with your new PC.

P.S. to help clarify the difference it just putting 16gb ram in this device compared to just 8gb ram. Here is same i3-10th gen PC Userbenchtest with 8gb and 16gb. See sceen shots.
Appreciate all the input. Does it make sense to buy dual channel ram or does that not matter with this motherboard?
Jul 5, 2022 1:02 AM
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BikemanJul 5, 2022 1:02 AM
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[/QUOTE]P.S. to help clarify the difference it just putting 16gb ram in this device compared to just 8gb ram. Here is same i3-10th gen PC Userbenchtest with 8gb and 16gb. See sceen shots.[/QUOTE]

AquaGalley8616 - Thanks for posting the results!
Last edited by Bikeman July 4, 2022 at 06:03 PM.
Jul 5, 2022 3:49 PM
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LikeABadPennyJul 5, 2022 3:49 PM
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Cross-posting this from the i5 thread:

Found the fix for the audio fade/dropout problem, it involves hacking the registry so if you're not comfortable doing that, make a backup first or have someone else do it that is more comfortable with registry editing.

Note this is on a fresh Win10 install, if you have Win11 or still have the original install, this may or may not be the same solution.

Fire up regedit and browse to:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class
Now CTRL-F to find the item
Code:
"PerformanceIdleTime"
(without quotes) - note, you may have more than 1 of the same entry, this system only had 1, YMMV. My setting was "03 00 00 00" by default (again, no quotes) - change this to "00 00 00 00" (once again, no quotes) hit ok, exit, reboot.

Let me know if this did/did not fix the problem for you and if you encountered any issues.
Jul 5, 2022 8:47 PM
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grndslmJul 5, 2022 8:47 PM
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I just ordered:
this RAM -- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GX9S3G7 ( TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert overclocking 10L Samsung B-Die DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) CL14 Desktop Memory Module Ram - TTCED416G3200HC14BDC01 )
&&
this GPU -- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YVPZ3RY ( GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6400 D6 Low Profile 4G Graphics Card, Low Profile Design, 4GB 64-bit GDDR6, GV-R64D6-4GL )

Seems to be the best bang per buck. I just hope it all fits.

Had I realized that this box didn't have PCIe 4.0, I would've looked toward the more expensive i5.... but I think the RAM & GPU will be enough for what I'm looking for. Guess I'll know by the end of this week.
Jul 5, 2022 9:17 PM
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AquaGalley8616Jul 5, 2022 9:17 PM
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Quote from grndslm View quoted comment :
I just ordered:
this RAM -- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GX9S3G7 ( TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert overclocking 10L Samsung B-Die DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) CL14 Desktop Memory Module Ram - TTCED416G3200HC14BDC01 )
&&
this GPU -- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YVPZ3RY ( GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6400 D6 Low Profile 4G Graphics Card, Low Profile Design, 4GB 64-bit GDDR6, GV-R64D6-4GL )

Seems to be the best bang per buck. I just hope it all fits.

Had I realized that this box didn't have PCIe 4.0, I would've looked toward the more expensive i5.... but I think the RAM & GPU will be enough for what I'm looking for. Guess I'll know by the end of this week.
....
Maybe look though these i3 10th or i5 11th gen threads because your ram might not even work, and 2x8 sticks for 99 dollars is higher price than the crucial which is 60 dollars for 2x8 sticks.

Crucial RAM 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL22 (or 2933MHz or 2666MHz) Desktop Memory CT2K8G4DFRA32A 2x8 sticks for 60 dollars.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C53L...tails&th=1

now, this i3 or i5 uses the same crucial Ram stick, I have exactly the same ram in my i5 and my i3. It had 8 gig's in each pc, so you only need 1 8gb stick for 30 dollars.

crucial is better pro level ram, teamgroup is 2nd tier and maybe it will work, maybe it will not. Go with the sure thing.

When you get the 6400 post your userbenchmark score.
Last edited by AquaGalley8616 July 5, 2022 at 03:29 PM.
Jul 6, 2022 12:01 AM
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grndslmJul 6, 2022 12:01 AM
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There's nothing more 2nd tier, or even 3rd tier, than CL22 memory.

I made that post under the assumption that 3200 MHz RAM was the fastest that would work.... but I happened to have a pair of 3600 MHz CL15 RAM from another box that I swapped over.... and it actually shows that it's running exactly as spec'ed (3 MHz faster, actually) -- 3603 MHz, CL15..... so THIS CL14 RAM from newegg would actually be the fastest RAM that would work -- https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16...6820374232

CL14 RAM would perform processor heavy calculations in like 64% of the time as the same computer with CL22 RAM. As I was hoping to use this machine in a processor heavy, emulation machine.... the best RAM possible is worth it. Even if I was just using it to browse the web, it's still worth it to me, IMHO.

I canceled the Teamgroup RAM for now, because swapping the DDR4-3600, CL14 RAM didn't solve a seriously huge problem I'm having with emulation. I have an older machine (older processer, older chipset, slower memory, etc. that is able to emulate older gaming systems MUCH better than this Acer XC. I'm not sure what else the problem could be, but here's the comparison:

OLDER BOX: Intel Core i3-10100 cpu, HP 8768 mobo, Intel B460 (Comet Lake PCH-V) chipset, DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300 (15-15-15-35 timing) RAM, Intel UHD Graphics 630.

THIS Acer XC: Intel Core i3-10105, Acer Aspire XC-1660G mobo, Intel B560 (Rocket Lake-PCH-H) chipset, single channel DDR4-3200 / PC4-25600 (22-21-21-47 timing) RAM, Intel UHD Graphics 630

POST-RAM SWAP Acer XC: Same, except dual chanel DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800 (15-15-15-36 timings)

RESULTS: This newer Acer XC can't even emulate NES games properly, even after updating everything, including the "Acer Firmware" that Windows Update automatically found. I'm assuming there's SOMETHING, some *driver, SOMETHING that isn't configured properly.... but it doesn't make sense to me. I very well might send this Acer back...

EDIT: According to HWiNFO64, there is actually one more difference.... the older HP has one cpu instructionset enabled that this newer Acer doesn't have enabled -- AES-NI. Could that affect emulation to the point that the older machine can emulate Gamecube / Dreamcast games, but the newer machine not even emulate NES at a proper framerate??!?!? I don't think so, but I guess it was worth mentioning as the only other difference...

Quote from AquaGalley8616 View quoted comment :
....
Maybe look though these i3 10th or i5 11th gen threads because your ram might not even work, and 2x8 sticks for 99 dollars is higher price than the crucial which is 60 dollars for 2x8 sticks.

Crucial RAM 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL22 (or 2933MHz or 2666MHz) Desktop Memory CT2K8G4DFRA32A 2x8 sticks for 60 dollars.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C53L...tails&th=1 [amazon.com]

now, this i3 or i5 uses the same crucial Ram stick, I have exactly the same ram in my i5 and my i3. It had 8 gig's in each pc, so you only need 1 8gb stick for 30 dollars.

crucial is better pro level ram, teamgroup is 2nd tier and maybe it will work, maybe it will not. Go with the sure thing.

When you get the 6400 post your userbenchmark score.
Last edited by grndslm July 5, 2022 at 05:11 PM.
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Jul 6, 2022 12:20 AM
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AquaGalley8616Jul 6, 2022 12:20 AM
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grndsim
I was just sharing the ram that many of have installed and seemed to work. The sure thing. You could be more knowledgable then me, I don't know you.

I know there are threads on SD where members don't like the teamgroup stuff.

I love what you are doing with your emulation stuff, when you get the 6400 card tell us how is goes. I know I watched some youtube videos using the 6400 card in PCI 4th gen PC doing emulation stuff and they were amazed by it.

I just got a Xbox Series S a week or so ago, so my gaming needs are met, and I saw emulation stuff on the xbox too. I got game pass ultimate, so I am currently playing around with old xbox/360/one games, lots of them. So I will put the emulation on hold until I get bored with those xbox ultimate games.

Good luck and keep in touch as to what you decide to do. Peace
Last edited by AquaGalley8616 July 5, 2022 at 05:32 PM.
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appleguy82Jul 6, 2022 2:24 AM
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Has Anyone thought about using this as a test bed for Hackintosh????
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cbraendleJul 6, 2022 5:51 PM
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Anyone know if this is 1 by 8, or 2 by 4? I'm guessing the latter, but want to confirm
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chiJul 6, 2022 11:08 PM
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Quote from cbraendle View quoted comment :
Anyone know if this is 1 by 8, or 2 by 4? I'm guessing the latter, but want to confirm
It's 1x8 with an empty slot available.
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LovelyHealth560Jul 7, 2022 12:19 PM
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Can I add more RAM to this one? I am looking for a mini PC 16GB RAM at least to run VMs for some home projects
Jul 7, 2022 1:49 PM
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jwlpJul 7, 2022 1:49 PM
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Quote from LovelyHealth560 View quoted comment :
Can I add more RAM to this one? I am looking for a mini PC 16GB RAM at least to run VMs for some home projects
You sure can.

I added this a few days ago and it works fine.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C4VH...ct_details
Jul 7, 2022 8:18 PM
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cbraendleJul 7, 2022 8:18 PM
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Quote from chi View quoted comment :
It's 1x8 with an empty slot available.
Thank you so much! That makes things much easier. You wouldn't happen to have the exact model of ram used, would you?

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chiJul 8, 2022 12:22 AM
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Quote from cbraendle View quoted comment :
Thank you so much! That makes things much easier. You wouldn't happen to have the exact model of ram used, would you?
From what I understand, they use Kingston and some other brand depending on what is available at the time. I bought this 8gb RAM off Amazon and it worked fine which is the same speed as installed on the system.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...UTF8&psc=1

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