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QNAP TS-453D-4G 4-Bay Diskless NAS w/2.5GbE $439
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Overall, if you're looking to get into running a server, be it for simple network attached storage, Plex streaming, hosting a number of services using docker, or whatever - it's a good starter device, provided you prioritize security.
Now - there's a risk of outgrowing this very quickly (like 1 year), but if you go this route, there are some things to know:
QNAP gets a lot of (deserved) hate, however if you perform just a handful of relatively easy steps, you can get a lot out of an affordable, low-power-consumption device. They also have decent resale value and likely will for 5 more years, so if you do upgrade, you can at least put a good chunk of the QNAP value toward that.
I have owned 2 separate QNAP - one a rack mount unit with 4 bay which was for business use and a TS431 for home use.
The rack mount unit (supposed to be business grade), died suddenly. I couldn't get it power on remotely. When I finally got it back to office I found it wouldn't even power on after trying a full reset. So seems like the mother board died. It was a complete disaster when a system that stores lot of data just dies without any early warning.
The home unit - similar story - one bay stopped working suddenly. It's ridiculous that bothe the Qnap I owned died or had issues.
If you want a storage system, get something else.
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Overall, if you're looking to get into running a server, be it for simple network attached storage, Plex streaming, hosting a number of services using docker, or whatever - it's a good starter device, provided you prioritize security.
Now - there's a risk of outgrowing this very quickly (like 1 year), but if you go this route, there are some things to know:
QNAP gets a lot of (deserved) hate, however if you perform just a handful of relatively easy steps, you can get a lot out of an affordable, low-power-consumption device. They also have decent resale value and likely will for 5 more years, so if you do upgrade, you can at least put a good chunk of the QNAP value toward that.
In contrast, you now have these proprietary devices of questionable software quality (and certainly questionable software maintenance going forward), running all sorts of other poorly-maintained internet-facing services, while simultaneously being dumbed down enough to let joe-average shoot themselves in the foot with promises of click-to-install "server apps" that punch holes out to the internet.
So as long as you treat these as a NAS, and not a do-it-all-poorly internet-facing application server, you should be fine. (i.e. I had a pile of QNAP's and did not get hit by any of the ransomware... because my devices only serve NFS and don't have any access to the internet whatsoever)
I have owned 2 separate QNAP - one a rack mount unit with 4 bay which was for business use and a TS431 for home use.
The rack mount unit (supposed to be business grade), died suddenly. I couldn't get it power on remotely. When I finally got it back to office I found it wouldn't even power on after trying a full reset. So seems like the mother board died. It was a complete disaster when a system that stores lot of data just dies without any early warning.
The home unit - similar story - one bay stopped working suddenly. It's ridiculous that bothe the Qnap I owned died or had issues.
If you want a storage system, get something else.
sounds like every synology nas my friends and i have ever owned. qnap actuallly does use quts Hero OS now on some of their NAS and that gives you ZFS+ file system which is a real game changer in the consumer nas market. ... rebulilding your array takes minutes to maybe an hour .... instead of a day ...
That said, mobo failure is almost to be expected in my circle with synology... i haven't had the bad luck yet with qnap but they sure do get a lot of attention from hackers/ransomware devs/etc.... constnatly need to stay up to date
i'd go qnap all day for a NAS but my credit card doubles the warranty period so i'm less worried about failures (but i do expect failure at some point... i use the shit otu of it
10gig Rj45
2x 2.5gig RJ45
3x usb 10gig for adding more JBODS ..
thisthing is cool, and has a ryzen.. most of the synology stuff we had that failed was like intel atom or celeron or some other crap that wasn't a "normal" server cpu.. this one has one.. .. heat will always win the day though with those kidns of failures so keep it cool...
I have owned 2 separate QNAP - one a rack mount unit with 4 bay which was for business use and a TS431 for home use.
The rack mount unit (supposed to be business grade), died suddenly. I couldn't get it power on remotely. When I finally got it back to office I found it wouldn't even power on after trying a full reset. So seems like the mother board died. It was a complete disaster when a system that stores lot of data just dies without any early warning.
The home unit - similar story - one bay stopped working suddenly. It's ridiculous that bothe the Qnap I owned died or had issues.
If you want a storage system, get something else.
That said, mobo failure is almost to be expected in my circle with synology... i haven't had the bad luck yet with qnap but they sure do get a lot of attention from hackers/ransomware devs/etc.... constnatly need to stay up to date
i'd go qnap all day for a NAS but my credit card doubles the warranty period so i'm less worried about failures (but i do expect failure at some point... i use the shit otu of it
10gig Rj45
2x 2.5gig RJ45
3x usb 10gig for adding more JBODS ..
thisthing is cool, and has a ryzen.. most of the synology stuff we had that failed was like intel atom or celeron or some other crap that wasn't a "normal" server cpu.. this one has one.. .. heat will always win the day though with those kidns of failures so keep it cool...
added note.. tbh.. you coulda probably thrown the mobo in the oven and had it working... cold solder joints plague these things and heat exposes them.. I used to thjrow almost every electronc thing that broke on me (without letting out the smoke) into the oven to do a ghetto reflow and 90% of the time it resulted in "fixed"
hell, i took a propane torch to the dts chip on my pioneer sc63 a few months ago and it's still running like a chamnp... it was completely dead (and 700+ to reapair)
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hell, i took a propane torch to the dts chip on my pioneer sc63 a few months ago and it's still running like a chamnp... it was completely dead (and 700+ to reapair)
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