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Deal of the day for Prime Members: Synology 2 Bay NAS DiskStation DS220+ (Diskless) - $245.99 at Amazon

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Deal of the day for Prime Members: Synology 2 Bay NAS DiskStation DS220+ (Diskless)
If you have discover/amex points deal, that's another $20 to $40 off, could make this the lowest seem.

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Deal of the day for Prime Members: Synology 2 Bay NAS DiskStation DS220+ (Diskless)
If you have discover/amex points deal, that's another $20 to $40 off, could make this the lowest seem.

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Model: Synology DiskStation 2-Bay Diskless NAS, Black (DS220+)

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PaleoWorx
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Prime Day price $245.99. Regular price $299

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-B...pldnSite=1


Digital Storage Capacity -- 2 GB
Compatible Devices -- Camera
Hard Disk Interface -- Raid
Brand -- Synology
Series -- DS220+
Specific Uses For Product -- Multimedia
Connectivity Technology -- RJ-45 1GbE LAN Port 2 (with Link Aggregation / Failover support) USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port* 2 USB / SD Copy Notes The USB 3.0 standard was renamed to USB 3.2 Gen 1 by the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) in 2019.RJ-45 1GbE LAN Port 2 (with Link Aggregation / Failover support) USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port* 2 USB / SD Copy Notes The USB 3.0 standard was renamed to USB 3.2 Gen 1 by the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) in 2019. See more
Hard Disk Form Factor -- 2.5 Inches
Form Factor -- Compact
Read Speed - 225 Megabytes Per Second


About this item
Featured dual 1GbE LAN ports to support network failover, and with Link Aggregation enabled, DS220+ provides over 225 MB/s sequential read and 192 MB/s sequential write throughput. Data can be further protected with RAID 1 disk mirroring to prevent sudden drive failure.
Intel dual-core processor with AES-NI hardware encryption engine; 2 GB DDR4 memory (expandable up to 6 GB)
Access, share, and sync your data easily across different operating systems and devices.
Average 15% performance boost to photo indexing and other computing-intensive operations, as well as database response time.
By default, two camera licenses are installed; extra licenses can be purchased (CLP1, CLP4, or CLP8)
Last edited by PaleoWorx July 12, 2022 at 03:00 AM.
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CrimsonRose733
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Good deal on a very good NAS. Paid $299 for mine in Feb 2022.
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Zeric
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A great little NAS that can also run docker. If you upgrade the memory, you could also run a couple of small VMs. I purchased mine last Prime Day ($228- Sale + Lightning Deal) and upgraded it to 10GB memory (2GB internal + 8GB SODIMM Samsung). That's more than it's specified for, but I've had no issues.
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PaleoWorx
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cool beans, but looks like this one was created first. Did you post the link from this thread over there, too?
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Spider210
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Wish there was sales on the larger bay models.
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Quote from Spider210 :
Wish there was sales on the larger bay models.
The DS920+ with 4 bays is on sale too for $449.99, $100 off.

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j9jm3
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Great price if two bay works for you. I have this for about 6 months and runs great. I put in a 4gb spare sodimm with no issues.
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LavenderPickle7682
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B&H Photo has these on sale too -- and if you have their credit card, no tax.

Personally, I question the purpose of a 2-bay.
- JBOD (2x drives, not combined together) makes about the most sense -- and it's not much. You have two drives, two volumes, etc. You're just better off buying a larger single drive (and Synology does make single drive units, just so you can take advantage of their OS).
- In the same mindset, Raid 0 (striping) for performance doesn't make sense with spinning disks + gigabit connections. Lots of risk for very little, if any gain. Only benefit here is combining the drive sizes for double the storage -- with double the risk.
- Your only real option is drive mirroring with Raid 1, which doubles your disk cost. And NAS drives aren't cheap.
- However, external backup drives are not as expensive -- so if you're going to have the risk of increased failure, might as well get one large NAS drive and one (or two) large external backup drives.

Whereas with a 4-bay:
- You have the option of Synology Hybrid Raid (a form of parity, where up to three drives are available to use, but the final drive is for parity). This allows you to start with effectively mirroring, then expand as your needs grow (or storage becomes less expensive). So instead of double the storage cost, your overhead is at maximum 25%.
- The 4-bay is a faster unit.

I'm just saying - a two bay just doesn't much sense as it limits future growth considerably & limits your data protection to only mirroring. Consider a single bay unit if your only goal is to have *some* storage network accessible.
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
B&H Photo has these on sale too -- and if you have their credit card, no tax.

Personally, I question the purpose of a 2-bay.
- JBOD (2x drives, not combined together) makes about the most sense -- and it's not much. You have two drives, two volumes, etc. You're just better off buying a larger single drive (and Synology does make single drive units, just so you can take advantage of their OS).
- In the same mindset, Raid 0 (striping) for performance doesn't make sense with spinning disks + gigabit connections. Lots of risk for very little, if any gain. Only benefit here is combining the drive sizes for double the storage -- with double the risk.
- Your only real option is drive mirroring with Raid 1, which doubles your disk cost. And NAS drives aren't cheap.
- However, external backup drives are not as expensive -- so if you're going to have the risk of increased failure, might as well get one large NAS drive and one (or two) large external backup drives.

Whereas with a 4-bay:
- You have the option of Synology Hybrid Raid (a form of parity, where up to three drives are available to use, but the final drive is for parity). This allows you to start with effectively mirroring, then expand as your needs grow (or storage becomes less expensive). So instead of double the storage cost, your overhead is at maximum 25%.
- The 4-bay is a faster unit.

I'm just saying - a two bay just doesn't much sense as it limits future growth considerably & limits your data protection to only mirroring. Consider a single bay unit if your only goal is to have *some* storage network accessible.
None of your points here make much sense. The entire point is to use it in RAID1 so that if one of your drives fails, you have a window in which to replace it — if you play your cards right and have two separate drives from ideally different vendors and definitely different batches, the chance of your losing data from a single drive failure is halved. You're not obligated to use NAS drives like the IronWolf or WD Red/Red Pros and many people are very happy shucking the WD white label drives from Easystores that behave basically like the non-Pro Reds.

Also your understanding of SHR is wrong. SHR stripes parity data across all the drives. Moreover, you can lose significantly more than 25 percent depending on what you put in a 4-bay. If you do 4, 4, 4, 12 for example, you lose 8TB of the 12. You need a minimum of two identically sized drives of the largest capacity to not waste capacity.
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
- The 4-bay is a faster unit.
Can you please expand on this?

Also, I think I do agree with you on most of your points. For a while I had been thinking about getting a 2 bay model, but after reading more about some of the other disk formats, like the SHR you mentioned, I likely will opt for a 4 or 5 bay model when I do purchase.
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While I have no doubt that a 4-disk array is more flexible than a 2-disk array, I'd argue that 2 disks in a RAID-1 configuration is better than 1 standalone disk for someone who values safety over money.

Disks are not expensive, and even doubling the cost would be reasonable in exchange for the ability to detect disk failures and swap disks before losing data. Of course, when you're working with high capacities ($$$$), you might opt to sacrifice a little safety to have substantially more storage space by using RAID-5/6 or RAID-Z, but even that is much better than no redundancy at all.

RAID is not a backup solution, of course. Maybe you need backups. Maybe you don't. But if you wanted to actually depend on your backups, you should 1) test your backups, 2) keep them on redundant storage, and 3) consider storing a copy off-site. 3-2-1 rule, etc.

I've shepherded several systems with RAID-1 (or RAID-10) arrays through disk failures and capacity upgrades. In no situation was the raw storage expensive enough to trump the need for redundancy (and redundant backups). In no situation did we regret spending too much on disks. Even without disk failure, the redundancy provided peace of mind and allowed better quality of sleep.

Make no mistake: "only mirroring" is the strongest redundancy one could have, and slightly more expensive. For a NAS neophyte, the additional expense is likely marginal.

If you wanted a NAS, you'd probably miss your data if it disappeared without permission. If you're waffling over getting the 2-bay unit and 2 disks vs saving up for the 4-bay unit and 4 disks, and it'd be a long time before you could get the 4-disk system... waffle no more. Get the 2-bay unit and build yourself a RAID-1 array. When your storage needs justify consideration of RAID-5/6, you could likely justify the expense of a new NAS. You might even want to DIY your multi-disk server. The world is your oyster.
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luminus
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Spent three months looking for a discount before buying one for 299 last month. This is a great setup for a variety of purposes and the best price you'll see until BF.
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Quote from Pinako :
While I have no doubt that a 4-disk array is more flexible than a 2-disk array, I'd argue that 2 disks in a RAID-1 configuration is better than 1 standalone disk for someone who values safety over money.

Disks are not expensive, and even doubling the cost would be reasonable in exchange for the ability to detect disk failures and swap disks before losing data. Of course, when you're working with high capacities ($$$$), you might opt to sacrifice a little safety to have substantially more storage space by using RAID-5/6 or RAID-Z, but even that is much better than no redundancy at all.

RAID is not a backup solution, of course. Maybe you need backups. Maybe you don't. But if you wanted to actually depend on your backups, you should 1) test your backups, 2) keep them on redundant storage, and 3) consider storing a copy off-site. 3-2-1 rule, etc.

I've shepherded several systems with RAID-1 (or RAID-10) arrays through disk failures and capacity upgrades. In no situation was the raw storage expensive enough to trump the need for redundancy (and redundant backups). In no situation did we regret spending too much on disks. Even without disk failure, the redundancy provided peace of mind and allowed better quality of sleep.

Make no mistake: "only mirroring" is the strongest redundancy one could have, and slightly more expensive. For a NAS neophyte, the additional expense is likely marginal.

If you wanted a NAS, you'd probably miss your data if it disappeared without permission. If you're waffling over getting the 2-bay unit and 2 disks vs saving up for the 4-bay unit and 4 disks, and it'd be a long time before you could get the 4-disk system... waffle no more. Get the 2-bay unit and build yourself a RAID-1 array. When your storage needs justify consideration of RAID-5/6, you could likely justify the expense of a new NAS. You might even want to DIY your multi-disk server. The world is your oyster.
+1...Going to agree here.

Furthermore, the argument that a 2-bay NAS limits future growth is kind of silly IMO. You should get what you need now, because by the time you need more, there will likely be something better. If you need the 4 bay now, cool - get it. If you only need 2 bay, then get that one. Personally, I got the 2 bay as I don't think I'll need more nor larger disks for a long time. Plus, I'll be doing cloud backups so should a drive fail, I can either rebuild it from the RAID 1 or download it again from the cloud.

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Any suggestions for the hard disk to be used with this?

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