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nolenski
09-29-2022 at 08:25 AM.
09-29-2022 at 08:25 AM.
Darn... Limit of just 20 of each. Frown
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HIDDENJimBanville09-29-2022 at 08:29 AM.
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AGpennypacker
09-29-2022 at 08:38 AM.
09-29-2022 at 08:38 AM.
Quote from JimBanville :
They use something like this for the reasons I payed out in my question to you. You'd know if you "needed" this. It wouldn't be a ambiguous.

VenkatY said what they did, and I asked them what type of receiver the paired with it.

I'm aware of why, and I'm aware I likely won't ever need it. I'm curious to hear from the VenkatY. Thanks.
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HIDDENONLYUSEmeDEALS09-29-2022 at 08:58 AM.
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09-29-2022 at 09:22 AM.
09-29-2022 at 09:22 AM.
If anyone wants to read more about separates and especially about Monolith products, head off to avsforum and read as much as you want.

Their QA has been iffy in a few products such as subwoofers, etc. I am not familiar too much with their dedicated amps. Another online only company which is very old now, is Emotiva. Ofcourse, there are traditional high end separates from Bryston, NAD, Adcom, McIntosh.

Regarding why it's needed, it really depends on the application and the receiver. Some people like clean power at both higher and lower levels, especially if your speakers are power hungry. Not all avrs are made in same way. Don't go by published wattage. Most of the amps when all 7 channels driven produce lot less power. Harman Kardon used to publish real numbers when all channels driven. Denon used to fudge a lot. People bought expensive speakers and then found out how much they are missing out and switched to separates.
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mazingaz
09-29-2022 at 10:30 AM.
09-29-2022 at 10:30 AM.
Quote from ONLYUSEmeDEALS :
I just can't imagine ever spending this much money on electronics from a brand called monoprice.

What brands you think that you can spent money ? Monolith is brand name for audio. This amp has good reputation actually built by ATI . Obviously, you don't know audio gears.
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09-29-2022 at 10:31 AM.
09-29-2022 at 10:31 AM.
Quote from mazingaz :
What brands you think that you can spent money ? Monolith is brand name for audio. This amp has good reputation actually built by ATI . Obviously, you don't know audio gears.

"you think that you can spent money". Huh
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dragoogm
09-29-2022 at 11:50 AM.
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Me LOUD!
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09-29-2022 at 12:29 PM.
09-29-2022 at 12:29 PM.
Quote from AGpennypacker :
Interesting so at what price point for receiver do you find that is easy to get outputs that go to one of these amps? For instance I have a onkyo 676 right now, would I just use speaker to XLR adapter? Thanks

If you're not careful you're gonna open up Pandora's box!

It works with both line level and XLR connections so you wouldn't need an XLR adapter.

All you are doing is replacing using the internal amp(power) on a receiver with this external amp(power) for each channel.

There are way to many factors as some have pointed out on whether to get something like this.

When setting up a system and looking to improve the sound you hear, IMO this should be toward the end of the list to add, especially when you consider the price.
Hope that helps.
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amarali
09-29-2022 at 01:12 PM.
09-29-2022 at 01:12 PM.
Another reason for separates: if you were to engineer a high end receiver with 16 amplifiers ( one for each channel) the unit would be huge and weigh 200 lbs. Also the price would be prohibitive, and it would be obsolete next year when a new hdmi standard comes out.
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nwickliff
09-29-2022 at 01:35 PM.
09-29-2022 at 01:35 PM.
Quote from ti97 :
It's interesting power configuration in the back. 2x 120V plugs for 2400W, then you need 2 separate circuits to power it. Definitely need electrician to run another circuit to your home theater for the 2nd circuit.
You'll never use that much power unless running some sort of pink noise at full tilt.
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nwickliff
09-29-2022 at 01:37 PM.
09-29-2022 at 01:37 PM.
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I have wondered the same. But then why would extremely educated and experienced music and theater lovers plunk down 5 times the cost of an integrated AVR to purchase separates like this? If it doesnt sound better then what is the purpose? Loudness? Any volume over 80dB for more than 20 minutes will likely lead to hearing damage...
There are many reasons to purchase separate power. Some have already talked bout the fact that AVR's don't typically put out much power when all channels are driven. You don't want to run out of DR for movies or full music passes.

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09-29-2022 at 01:44 PM.
09-29-2022 at 01:44 PM.
Quote from AGpennypacker :
Interesting so at what price point for receiver do you find that is easy to get outputs that go to one of these amps? For instance I have a onkyo 676 right now, would I just use speaker to XLR adapter? Thanks
You need an AVR with Preamps out. The cheapest one possibly still worth buying today ( I bought mine two years ago) is the Denon X3500H. Would use RCA to XLR adapter or cable as this amplifier has no RCA in.
Quote from AGpennypacker :
Interesting so at what price point for receiver do you find that is easy to get outputs that go to one of these amps? For instance I have a onkyo 676 right now, would I just use speaker to XLR adapter? Thanks
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09-29-2022 at 01:48 PM.
09-29-2022 at 01:48 PM.
Quote from Check4me :
What's so special about this amplifier as compared to others? Curious to know as it's highly priced
No one has mentioned that this is a Class D amp. Most amplifiers are class A/B. Class D is many many times more efficient and finally to the point where the frequency is not dependent on the speaker load. They run very cool because of this efficiency and weigh many times less than a Class D amplifier.
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09-29-2022 at 02:04 PM.
09-29-2022 at 02:04 PM.
To the asshole who keeps disliking any post which has info about separates (btw, this thread is about a separate amp? right?) -- go enjoy your vizio soundbar and stop threadcrapping by downvoting posts!
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