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I had Emotiva class D amp with Hypex Ncore but could not stay on my audio rack . Buckeys amp have much better spec 350 watts@8 ohms x 8 channels for just little over 2k . ( They are the pioneer of Hypex Ncore technology ).
I've been audiophile for quite sometime and numbers on spec sheets does not translate music in many cases.
Nelson Pass touches on this in his own amplifiers here: https://youtu.be/-Prz6IpHlSg
IMO, get the cleanest amplifiers possible and add in that distortion with tubes in the preamp (for a two channel setup). In a multichannel system, you don't really have to worry about it so get the cleanest amp you can anyways.
That's the purpose of an external amplifier. It's really not about max volume either, it's really about dynamic impulse response. A small power supply. It does not hove the reserves to quickly go from low to high. The receiver output now acts like a low pass filter and averages it. So you hear less detail.
An amp, on the other hand, is rated for each channel independently. So 8 channels times 100 means eight channels outputting 100 Watt simultaneously.
I'm not telling you to buy this product. Personally. I think it's overpriced. That is an electrical engineer's explanation for why someone would purchase a discrete amp.
That's all theoretical.
How many times are all channels of a multichannel signal outputting the same output proportionally, at max volume? Answer...never.
Typical 8ohm home audio speakers of typical efficiency don't need use/need as much wattage to reach max volume as people think. If so, you'd see people who routinely listen to their systems with volume maxed out.
A speaker with 88 db sensitivity only needs 1 watt to get that loud. 88 db is loud. Double the wattage for every 3 db increase in output.
Finally, people who are using external multichannel amps for home theaters are also using self powered subwoofers, relieving the main speakers of having to output bass, so they need even less power.
That's all theoretical.
How many times are all channels of a multichannel signal outputting the same output proportionally, at max volume? Answer...never.
Typical 8ohm home audio speakers of typical efficiency don't need use/need as much wattage to reach max volume as people think. If so, you'd see people who routinely listen to their systems with volume maxed out.
A speaker with 88 db sensitivity only needs 1 watt to get that loud. 88 db is loud. Double the wattage for every 3 db increase in output.
Finally, people who are using external multichannel amps for home theaters are also using self powered subwoofers, relieving the main speakers of having to output bass, so they need even less power.
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There's absolutely nothing theoretical about what I said. All this can be measured. That's why I like audioholics reviews and Erin's audio corner.
Notice we're not talking about one or two speakers. We're talking about five, seven, nine, eleven.
. You honestly don't know what you're talking about. Do you even have any technical background at all? I doubt it.
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There's absolutely nothing theoretical about what I said. All this can be measured. That's why I like audioholics reviews and Erin's audio corner.
Notice we're not talking about one or two speakers. We're talking about five, seven, nine, eleven.
. You honestly don't know what you're talking about. Do you even have any technical background at all? I doubt it.
Calm down.
Everything you said about the benefits of using a multichannel amp are theoretical in the CONTEXT of a typical residential home theater where you don't even know all the variables.
Let's take this one step at a time.
What part of the frequency range pulls more power from an amp? Treble? Midrange? Bass?
Is it more likely or not that someone using a separate multichannel amp or AVR (when using it in multichannel mode) is also going to be using self powered subwoofers, relieving the main speakers of a LOT of their power requirements they would otherwise be pulling from an AVR's amps? Yes or no?
Next, is the following true or not...an 88db efficient 8 ohm speaker only needs 16 watts to produce an uncomfortably loud 100db at 1 meter. True or not. How many watts from 2 meters away?
How many meters away is the typical listener in a typical residential room sitting from their speakers?
Can you gives us a few examples of a multichannel soundtracks that have max amplitude signals from all the speakers at once?
I have more, but could you please answer these questions first 👍🏼
Calm down.
Everything you said about the benefits of using a multichannel amp are theoretical in the CONTEXT of a typical residential home theater where you don't even know all the variables.
Let's take this one step at a time.
What part of the frequency range pulls more power from an amp? Treble? Midrange? Bass?
Is it more likely or not that someone using a separate multichannel amp or AVR (when using it in multichannel mode) is also going to be using self powered subwoofers, relieving the main speakers of a LOT of their power requirements they would otherwise be pulling from an AVR's amps? Yes or no?
Next, is the following true or not...an 88db efficient 8 ohm speaker only needs 16 watts to produce an uncomfortably loud 100db at 1 meter. True or not. How many watts from 2 meters away?
How many meters away is the typical listener in a typical residential room sitting from their speakers?
Can you gives us a few examples of a multichannel soundtracks that have max amplitude signals from all the speakers at once?
I have more, but could you please answer these questions first 👍🏼
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There's absolutely nothing theoretical about what I said. All this can be measured. That's why I like audioholics reviews and Erin's audio corner.
Notice we're not talking about one or two speakers. We're talking about five, seven, nine, eleven.
. You honestly don't know what you're talking about. Do you even have any technical background at all? I doubt it.
Thanks for supplying true knowledge and wisdom. If I didn't understand the concept of amplifier banks and consistent rail voltages, I sure as hell wouldn't try to argue. Can't say that for everyone though.
My point has consistently been those "benefits" won't apply to every situation. NO ONE can say that adding this amp to any/every home theater setup will result in an appreciable change.
Are you saying someone who has zero issues powering their home theater with their current AVR is guaranteed to see any benefit from getting an amp like this?
Please explain.