Amazon[amazon.com] has Sony a7 III ILCE7M3/B Full-Frame Mirrorless Interchangeable-Lens Camera with 3-Inch LCD, Body Only for $1698.00. Shipping is free.
Price: $300.00 lower (15% savings) than the list price of $1998.00
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15 stop dynamic range, 14 bit uncompressed RAW, ISO 50 to 204,800. Compatible with Sony E mount lenses. Can be connected via Bluetooth with smartphones featuring (as of the date of release)- Android (Android 5.0 or later, Bluetooth 4.0 or later), iOS (Bluetooth 4.0 or later)
Up to 10fps silent or mechanical shutter with AE/AF tracking. Battery life (Still Images): Approx. 610 shots (Viewfinder) / approx. 710 shots (LCD monitor), battery life (Movie, continuous recording): Approx. 200 min (Viewfinder) / Approx. 210 min (LCD monitor)
693 phase detection / 425 contrast AF points w/ 93 percent image coverage. Focus sensor: Exmor R CMOS sensor
In the box: Rechargeable battery (NP FZ100), AC adapter (AC UUD12), shoulder strap, body cap, Accessory shoe cap, Eyepiece cup, Micro USB cable. Metering type: 1200 zone evaluative metering
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Amazon[amazon.com] has Sony a7 III ILCE7M3/B Full-Frame Mirrorless Interchangeable-Lens Camera with 3-Inch LCD, Body Only for $1698.00. Shipping is free.
Price: $300.00 lower (15% savings) than the list price of $1998.00
Customer reviews:
★★★★★ / 1,865 global ratings
15 stop dynamic range, 14 bit uncompressed RAW, ISO 50 to 204,800. Compatible with Sony E mount lenses. Can be connected via Bluetooth with smartphones featuring (as of the date of release)- Android (Android 5.0 or later, Bluetooth 4.0 or later), iOS (Bluetooth 4.0 or later)
Up to 10fps silent or mechanical shutter with AE/AF tracking. Battery life (Still Images): Approx. 610 shots (Viewfinder) / approx. 710 shots (LCD monitor), battery life (Movie, continuous recording): Approx. 200 min (Viewfinder) / Approx. 210 min (LCD monitor)
693 phase detection / 425 contrast AF points w/ 93 percent image coverage. Focus sensor: Exmor R CMOS sensor
In the box: Rechargeable battery (NP FZ100), AC adapter (AC UUD12), shoulder strap, body cap, Accessory shoe cap, Eyepiece cup, Micro USB cable. Metering type: 1200 zone evaluative metering
Best camera you can get for this price. Still an excellent camera in 2022. Tons of YT videos on how to use this camera and how good it is. The only other camera at this price point that I'd compare it to is the Panasonic S5. At a cheaper price but not as capable would be the Canon RP.
Is this good camera for taking video for marching band field show night time at football field end to end (probably 10 yards line to 10 yards line)? We are talking about from High School football field stand, taking video that capture the whole marching band. And usually marching band would stay within 20 yards line from one end to 20 line yards on the other end while marching, but potentially the video would include from 10 yards line at one end to 10 yards on the other end WIDE shot at night. Or which other camera may be better? Or would cheaper camera like Sony a6400 be good enough?
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Is this good camera for taking video for marching band field show night time at football field end to end (probably 10 yards line to 10 yards line)? Or which other camera may be better? Or would cheaper camera like Sony a6400 be good enough?
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When you demand good low light performance, be ready to spend that money on a lens. But, yes, the A7iii would perform better than the A6400 thanks to its larger sensor. Just keep in mind you're going to spending much more on a lens.
And you will need to temper your expectations. Shooting 80 yards away in low light will cost you $13,000 USD. Settle for a 70-200 f2.8 at $2800 and move closer.
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When you demand good low light performance, be ready to spend that money on a lens. But, yes, the A7iii would perform better than the A6400 thanks to its larger sensor. Just keep in mind you're going to spending much more on a lens.
And you will need to temper your expectations. Shooting 80 yards away in low light will cost you $13,000 USD. Settle for a 70-200 f2.8 at $2800 and move closer.
May be my comment wasn't clear. I am not trying to take close up shot from 80 yards away. We are talking about from High School football field stand, taking video that capture the whole marching band. And usually marching band would stay within 20 yards line from one end to 20 line yards on the other end while marching, but potentially the video would include from 10 yards line at one end to 10 yards on the other end WIDE video shot at night. So wonder for video (for whole show may be 2-3 hours) taking WIDE shot at night (with occasional zoom in when marching band stay within 20-30 yards of each other, etc), would Sony a7 III significantly better than something like Sony a6400/a6600? Or for price/performance, what other camera may be better?
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May be my comment wasn't clear. I am not trying to take close up shot from 80 yards away. We are talking about from High School football field stand, taking video that capture the whole marching band. And usually marching band would stay within 20 yards line from one end to 20 line yards on the other end while marching, but potentially the video would include from 10 yards line at one end to 10 yards on the other end WIDE video shot at night. So wonder for video (for whole show may be 2-3 hours) taking WIDE shot at night (with occasional zoom in when marching band stay within 20-30 yards of each other, etc), would Sony a7 III significantly better than something like Sony a6400/a6600? Or for price/performance, what other camera may be better?
Have you considered a Sony RX10iv?
It wont give you the shallow depth of field, but has a lot of zoom in a small package and does 4K video without overheating issues.
I hate the idea of using something like this only for a webcam, but I need something that shoots in 4k video with direct-to-computer feed via a streamlink (I do online workshops for work). Currently using a crappy USB camera.
Was looking at the LUMIX for this, but would this be a good substitute? Would mostly use for online video, but prefer a camera that I can also take off the tripod and bring out into the field for some hobby photography.
Is it still worth buying something like this for a dedicated high def web cam, or should I just wait for the new macOS release to use my iphone as a webcam?
I hate the idea of using something like this only for a webcam, but I need something that shoots in 4k video with direct-to-computer feed via a streamlink (I do online workshops for work). Currently using a crappy USB camera.
Was looking at the LUMIX for this, but would this be a good substitute? Would mostly use for online video, but prefer a camera that I can also take off the tripod and bring out into the field for some hobby photography.
Is it still worth buying something like this for a dedicated high def web cam, or should I just wait for the new macOS release to use my iphone as a webcam?
You could go much cheaper. Do you want a viewfinder and interchangeable lenses for the hobbyist photography portion? There's some very capable p&s style cameras that are targeted for video capture and streaming.
Great camera, however a7RV is rumored to come out next week which might a reason for the price drop
Not exactly the reason for the price drop. A7RV brand new will easily be $3,500.00 to $3,900.00 once its out. A7IV succeed the a7iii so im guessing sony is selling off the last batches of the a7iii. Really great deal on the a7iii right now since its still a damn great camera for the next 5 years.
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Not exactly the reason for the price drop. A7RV brand new will easily be $,3500.00 to $3,900.00 once its out. A7IV succeed the a7iii so im guessing sony is selling off the last batches of the a7iii. Really great deal on the a7iii right now since its still a damn great camera for the next 5 years.
From reading all the A7iii vs a7iv comparison, seems like it is a major upgrade especially you also take a lot of video. Also reading some comparison between A7iv and A7s iii, A7iv has add enough feature that unless you take a lot of 4k60 video or some extreme low light condition, otherwise A7iv can probably handle all the things you need for video for something that is thousand dollar less than A7s iii.
The recording limit of 30 minutes found on the A7III has now been removed too in A7 IV.
The A7III only offers 8bit 4:2:0 internal shooting options whereas the A7IV now shoots 10 bit 4:2:2 internally with the option to use the H.265 codec or All Intra H.264 at a bit rate of 300mbps for 30p or 600mbps for 60p footage. Lower data rates are also available for those who don't need the added grading headroom or simply want to save on disk space.
The screen on the A7 III tilts, the A7 IV flips out so you move it to different angles if you're filming in landscape or in front of the camera. Not only is the new screen in A7 IV fully articulating it has also increased the resolution from 0.92 million dots to 1.04 million dots. More importantly the screen now has a 3:2 aspect ratio which matches the cameras sensor resulting in less wasted space on the screen.
There is now a dial in A7 IV below the PASM dial which allows you to switch between photo, video and S&Q modes. The dial is lockable as is the unmarked exposure compensation dial (it can be set to whatever you want now). There are also 3 custom setting slots on the PASM dial as opposed to 2 on the A7III.
A7 IV support full-size HDMI while A7 III support micro HDMI
A7 IV can be powered over USB-C forever, while the A7 III can not. You'll need a dummy battery to power the A7 III.
- When compare A7IV vs A7III, The A7IV appear sharper than A7III since it's oversampling a 7k image down to a 4k image.
- The A7 III Has In-body stabilization and Optical SteadyShot, while the A7 IV has all of those plus the addition of Active Stabilization. The active stabilization crops in on the image a bit, but also does a great job at keeping the frame very smooth. The 4 can also record the camera gyro data and apply stabilization in post.
- The A7IV has a feature called Focus Map, where you can see which areas are in focus. It's a little wild to get used to but a helpful tool when you don't have an external monitor to zoom in and use peaking.
Webcam - You can use the A7IV as a webcam without a capture card while A7 III cannot.
XFocus Breathing Compensation - When shooting video with certain lenses, the focus breathing can be pretty distracting. The A7 IV has a feature that will remove focus breathing on supported sony lenses to remove that distraction altogether.
A7III vs A7IV Autofocus
If all of the other specs were the same with the 3 and 4, except for the autofocus, it would still be enough for someone to upgrade to the A7 IV.
The A7 III uses face detect autofocus, which does work well, but you cant use an HDMI out like a monitor or connect it to the RS2 Raven Eye while filming in 4K. The A7 IV has improved autofocus and can use human, bird or animal eye autofocus in video mode, even while using an external monitor or recorder.
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From reading all the A7iii vs a7iv comparison, seems like it is a major upgrade especially you also take a lot of video. Also reading some comparison between A7iv and A7s iii, A7iv has add enough feature that unless you take a lot of 4k60 video or some extreme low light condition, otherwise A7iv can probably handle all the things you need for video for something that is thousand dollar less than A7s iii.
The recording limit of 30 minutes found on the A7III has now been removed too in A7 IV.
The A7III only offers 8bit 4:2:0 internal shooting options whereas the A7IV now shoots 10 bit 4:2:2 internally with the option to use the H.265 codec or All Intra H.264 at a bit rate of 300mbps for 30p or 600mbps for 60p footage. Lower data rates are also available for those who don't need the added grading headroom or simply want to save on disk space.
The screen on the A7 III tilts, the A7 IV flips out so you move it to different angles if you're filming in landscape or in front of the camera. Not only is the new screen in A7 IV fully articulating it has also increased the resolution from 0.92 million dots to 1.04 million dots. More importantly the screen now has a 3:2 aspect ratio which matches the cameras sensor resulting in less wasted space on the screen.
There is now a dial in A7 IV below the PASM dial which allows you to switch between photo, video and S&Q modes. The dial is lockable as is the unmarked exposure compensation dial (it can be set to whatever you want now). There are also 3 custom setting slots on the PASM dial as opposed to 2 on the A7III.
A7 IV support full-size HDMI while A7 III support micro HDMI
A7 IV can be powered over USB-C forever, while the A7 III can not. You'll need a dummy battery to power the A7 III.
- When compare A7IV vs A7III, The A7IV appear sharper than A7III since it's oversampling a 7k image down to a 4k image.
- The A7 III Has In-body stabilization and Optical SteadyShot, while the A7 IV has all of those plus the addition of Active Stabilization. The active stabilization crops in on the image a bit, but also does a great job at keeping the frame very smooth. The 4 can also record the camera gyro data and apply stabilization in post.
- The A7IV has a feature called Focus Map, where you can see which areas are in focus. It's a little wild to get used to but a helpful tool when you don't have an external monitor to zoom in and use peaking.
Webcam - You can use the A7IV as a webcam without a capture card while A7 III cannot.
XFocus Breathing Compensation - When shooting video with certain lenses, the focus breathing can be pretty distracting. The A7 IV has a feature that will remove focus breathing on supported sony lenses to remove that distraction altogether.
A7III vs A7IV Autofocus
If all of the other specs were the same with the 3 and 4, except for the autofocus, it would still be enough for someone to upgrade to the A7 IV.
The A7 III uses face detect autofocus, which does work well, but you cant use an HDMI out like a monitor or connect it to the RS2 Raven Eye while filming in 4K. The A7 IV has improved autofocus and can use human, bird or animal eye autofocus in video mode, even while using an external monitor or recorder.
You are correct! I own both the a7iii and a7iv right now and the a7iv is Sony's perfect hybrid camera. A7iv does overheat much faster than the a7Siii and lacks some great features but it covers enough to do a hybrid job. Biggest reason to upgrade to the a7iv would be the video features with 4K/60fps, 10-bit, S-cinetone and touch tracking. Otherwise, if you do not care about the video features, then the a7iii is the cheaper camera to go with. It still holds up pretty well even against Canon's R6. There is a $700 price differences between the a7iii and a7iv which you can use that towards a great mid-range 24-70mm zoom lenses like Tamron or Sigma.
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When you demand good low light performance, be ready to spend that money on a lens. But, yes, the A7iii would perform better than the A6400 thanks to its larger sensor. Just keep in mind you're going to spending much more on a lens.
And you will need to temper your expectations. Shooting 80 yards away in low light will cost you $13,000 USD. Settle for a 70-200 f2.8 at $2800 and move closer.
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When you demand good low light performance, be ready to spend that money on a lens. But, yes, the A7iii would perform better than the A6400 thanks to its larger sensor. Just keep in mind you're going to spending much more on a lens.
And you will need to temper your expectations. Shooting 80 yards away in low light will cost you $13,000 USD. Settle for a 70-200 f2.8 at $2800 and move closer.
It wont give you the shallow depth of field, but has a lot of zoom in a small package and does 4K video without overheating issues.
Was looking at the LUMIX for this, but would this be a good substitute? Would mostly use for online video, but prefer a camera that I can also take off the tripod and bring out into the field for some hobby photography.
Is it still worth buying something like this for a dedicated high def web cam, or should I just wait for the new macOS release to use my iphone as a webcam?
Was looking at the LUMIX for this, but would this be a good substitute? Would mostly use for online video, but prefer a camera that I can also take off the tripod and bring out into the field for some hobby photography.
Is it still worth buying something like this for a dedicated high def web cam, or should I just wait for the new macOS release to use my iphone as a webcam?
The recording limit of 30 minutes found on the A7III has now been removed too in A7 IV.
The A7III only offers 8bit 4:2:0 internal shooting options whereas the A7IV now shoots 10 bit 4:2:2 internally with the option to use the H.265 codec or All Intra H.264 at a bit rate of 300mbps for 30p or 600mbps for 60p footage. Lower data rates are also available for those who don't need the added grading headroom or simply want to save on disk space.
The screen on the A7 III tilts, the A7 IV flips out so you move it to different angles if you're filming in landscape or in front of the camera. Not only is the new screen in A7 IV fully articulating it has also increased the resolution from 0.92 million dots to 1.04 million dots. More importantly the screen now has a 3:2 aspect ratio which matches the cameras sensor resulting in less wasted space on the screen.
There is now a dial in A7 IV below the PASM dial which allows you to switch between photo, video and S&Q modes. The dial is lockable as is the unmarked exposure compensation dial (it can be set to whatever you want now). There are also 3 custom setting slots on the PASM dial as opposed to 2 on the A7III.
A7 IV support full-size HDMI while A7 III support micro HDMI
A7 IV can be powered over USB-C forever, while the A7 III can not. You'll need a dummy battery to power the A7 III.
- When compare A7IV vs A7III, The A7IV appear sharper than A7III since it's oversampling a 7k image down to a 4k image.
- The A7 III Has In-body stabilization and Optical SteadyShot, while the A7 IV has all of those plus the addition of Active Stabilization. The active stabilization crops in on the image a bit, but also does a great job at keeping the frame very smooth. The 4 can also record the camera gyro data and apply stabilization in post.
- The A7IV has a feature called Focus Map, where you can see which areas are in focus. It's a little wild to get used to but a helpful tool when you don't have an external monitor to zoom in and use peaking.
Webcam - You can use the A7IV as a webcam without a capture card while A7 III cannot.
XFocus Breathing Compensation - When shooting video with certain lenses, the focus breathing can be pretty distracting. The A7 IV has a feature that will remove focus breathing on supported sony lenses to remove that distraction altogether.
A7III vs A7IV Autofocus
If all of the other specs were the same with the 3 and 4, except for the autofocus, it would still be enough for someone to upgrade to the A7 IV.
The A7 III uses face detect autofocus, which does work well, but you cant use an HDMI out like a monitor or connect it to the RS2 Raven Eye while filming in 4K. The A7 IV has improved autofocus and can use human, bird or animal eye autofocus in video mode, even while using an external monitor or recorder.
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The recording limit of 30 minutes found on the A7III has now been removed too in A7 IV.
The A7III only offers 8bit 4:2:0 internal shooting options whereas the A7IV now shoots 10 bit 4:2:2 internally with the option to use the H.265 codec or All Intra H.264 at a bit rate of 300mbps for 30p or 600mbps for 60p footage. Lower data rates are also available for those who don't need the added grading headroom or simply want to save on disk space.
The screen on the A7 III tilts, the A7 IV flips out so you move it to different angles if you're filming in landscape or in front of the camera. Not only is the new screen in A7 IV fully articulating it has also increased the resolution from 0.92 million dots to 1.04 million dots. More importantly the screen now has a 3:2 aspect ratio which matches the cameras sensor resulting in less wasted space on the screen.
There is now a dial in A7 IV below the PASM dial which allows you to switch between photo, video and S&Q modes. The dial is lockable as is the unmarked exposure compensation dial (it can be set to whatever you want now). There are also 3 custom setting slots on the PASM dial as opposed to 2 on the A7III.
A7 IV support full-size HDMI while A7 III support micro HDMI
A7 IV can be powered over USB-C forever, while the A7 III can not. You'll need a dummy battery to power the A7 III.
- When compare A7IV vs A7III, The A7IV appear sharper than A7III since it's oversampling a 7k image down to a 4k image.
- The A7 III Has In-body stabilization and Optical SteadyShot, while the A7 IV has all of those plus the addition of Active Stabilization. The active stabilization crops in on the image a bit, but also does a great job at keeping the frame very smooth. The 4 can also record the camera gyro data and apply stabilization in post.
- The A7IV has a feature called Focus Map, where you can see which areas are in focus. It's a little wild to get used to but a helpful tool when you don't have an external monitor to zoom in and use peaking.
Webcam - You can use the A7IV as a webcam without a capture card while A7 III cannot.
XFocus Breathing Compensation - When shooting video with certain lenses, the focus breathing can be pretty distracting. The A7 IV has a feature that will remove focus breathing on supported sony lenses to remove that distraction altogether.
A7III vs A7IV Autofocus
If all of the other specs were the same with the 3 and 4, except for the autofocus, it would still be enough for someone to upgrade to the A7 IV.
The A7 III uses face detect autofocus, which does work well, but you cant use an HDMI out like a monitor or connect it to the RS2 Raven Eye while filming in 4K. The A7 IV has improved autofocus and can use human, bird or animal eye autofocus in video mode, even while using an external monitor or recorder.
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