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Prime Members: 75W Spigen Dual USB-C PPS PD Car Charger

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Powerarc via Amazon has for Prime Members: 75W Spigen Dual USB-C PPS PD Car Charger on sale for $23.09. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member fis for finding this deal.

Features:
  • 1x 45W USB-C Port
  • 1x 30W USB-C Port
  • Supports all major charging protocols with PPS, PD, and Super Fast Charging

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Powerarc via Amazon has for Prime Members: 75W Spigen Dual USB-C PPS PD Car Charger on sale for $23.09. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member fis for finding this deal.

Features:
  • 1x 45W USB-C Port
  • 1x 30W USB-C Port
  • Supports all major charging protocols with PPS, PD, and Super Fast Charging

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • About this Offer:
    • This is $9.90 lower (30% savings) than the list price.
  • About this Product:
    • This is rated 4.6 out of 5 stars based on over 20 ratings at Amazon.
  • About this Store:
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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The_Love_Spud
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Thanks for the catch! Being available only through a 3rd party seller on Amazon makes this a no-go for me as I regard Amazon's third party sellers as Mos Eisley (You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy). Otherwise Spigen remains a brand you should know and trust for solid cases (particularly for Samsung and other Korean-market phones). However, I wouldn't conflate their presence in the case market with the products they're pushing in the power space.

This model isn't yet featured on Spigen's US site [spigen.com], so perhaps this is a grey market item from their domestic market [spigen.co.kr]? Alternately, it could be counterfeit. I'm not willing to roll the dice with the devices I'd plug into this charger. I include the specs below with the note that only the 45W ports supports sufficiently high current draw to properly support Samsung's 25W or 45W Super Fast Charge modes. Otherwise it should be considered more impressive that in addition to PPS both ports also support voltage modes typical for laptops. Were Samsung putting out something like this for an even higher price (and they've come close [samsung.com]) i'd probably be in. For now I'm stuck waiting though this would otherwise check all the boxes for what I've been waiting for...

USB-C Port 1Total 45W Max (5V/3A, 9V/3A, 15V/3A, 20V/2.25A, 3.3-11.0V/4.05A, 3.3-16.0V/2.8A, 3.3-21.0V/2.1A)
USB-C Port 2Total 30W Max (5.0V/3.0A, 9.0V/3.0A, 15.0V/2.0A, 20.0V/1.5A, 3.3-5.9V/3.0A, 3.3-11.0V/2.25A)


Good luck!
Jon
Raeynn
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This seems like a really good deal, and Spigen is very well regarded for cases. Is there any reason for hesitation?

EDIT: Found my answer. This is a third party seller, relatively new but with high ratings this year.
istolethisusername
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I hate that they market it as 75W combined instead of the max wattage of the ports.

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captainflatch
Nov 23, 2022
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I ordered from Amazon and received today. Immediately plugged my S22 Ultra in using a 5A 100w UGreen cable and this is the first car charger to show Super Fast Charge 2.0 (I've tried about 5 on Amazon showing PD and PPS support.) It will super fast charge 2 galaxy phones at once.
Nov 23, 2022
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gergev
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from gen10 :
Wait so would this work for something like a Dell latitude 7420? it uses a 65w ac adapter
I wonder if the 45w port would charge it at a slower rate, or enough to use the laptop and not be draining the battery.
I bought an Acer with a thunderbolt 4 usb C port. The wall power supply that it came with is a delta ac/dc adapter with output 19V - 3.42A 65W.
Some of these car chargers specs in watts are based on 20V found in trucks and RV, but in a 12V car, would yield less than advertised watts.
Nov 23, 2022
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zeth006
Nov 23, 2022
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On the fence between this one and another one that's slightly cheaper [amazon.com]. Fakespot rating for the EHO one is B whereas the Spigen one due to so many reviews posted at once (probably promos), gets an F.
Nov 23, 2022
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dxxvi
Nov 23, 2022
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I thought it was 75W for one port so that I could charge a laptop.
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AznVamp
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from guaranteeit :
I assume these chargers run off your 12V battery right? I see these wattages going up and up and up. Back in the day it was just 5W or 10W USB Type A chargers. Now with people charging laptops with PPS and stuff, does this run a much higher risk of draining your car battery? I'd hate to see people need a jump over fast charging their cell phones!

This post makes me sound like a boomer, but trust me, I'm not, and I'm just a millennial trying to think more about this. I love fast charging, and sometimes it really is needed, but I often wonder if there's a way to toggle slower charging when our phones don't need it to preserve the battery of the phone better and in this case to prevent draining the heck out of your 12V car battery.
Headlight bulbs pull about 55W each. Aftermarket stereos are 2-5x more than that. If you're sitting there with your car off, it might be an issue after 5 hours. You should be able to calculate off the reserve capacity on your specific battery.

Major phone brands fast charging is actually not that fast. iPhone 20W and Samsung 45W. Meanwhile OnePlus is at 150W and Xiaomi is at 210W. I would be more concerned about wireless charging than cabled quick charging.
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TravisB7539
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Quote from guaranteeit :
I assume these chargers run off your 12V battery right? I see these wattages going up and up and up. Back in the day it was just 5W or 10W USB Type A chargers. Now with people charging laptops with PPS and stuff, does this run a much higher risk of draining your car battery? I'd hate to see people need a jump over fast charging their cell phones!

This post makes me sound like a boomer, but trust me, I'm not, and I'm just a millennial trying to think more about this. I love fast charging, and sometimes it really is needed, but I often wonder if there's a way to toggle slower charging when our phones don't need it to preserve the battery of the phone better and in this case to prevent draining the heck out of your 12V car battery.
As long as the vehicle is running you have zero concern. With the vehicle NOT running, you still can pull 75w for an extended period of time before needing to charge the battery.

Automotive batteries are generally 100ah (amp hours) which is 1200wh (watt hours).

So 16 hours at 75w.

But clearly you can pull the battery down to empty, so safely a couple a hours and still be able to start your car and recharge your car's battery properly.
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trpt4him
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Quote from TravisB7539 :
As long as the vehicle is running you have zero concern. With the vehicle NOT running, you still can pull 75w for an extended period of time before needing to charge the battery.

Automotive batteries are generally 100ah (amp hours) which is 1200wh (watt hours).

So 16 hours at 75w.

But clearly you can pull the battery down to empty, so safely a couple a hours and still be able to start your car and recharge your car's battery properly.
You don't want to pull any lead acid battery down to "empty" (meaning less than ~11v) especially if it's not a deep cycle battery. It will never hold a charge the same again.

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UniqueAlpaca719
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Spigen is a reliable brand. Have many of their cases and completely happy with their stuff. So this new venture won't be any different from my experience. In for one.
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tygron
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Quote from fis :
2) You are getting a security warning when you try to visit their website. This is a standard warning that appears when your browser visits a page that is not "secure" That is, the website's home page uses http: instead of https:. The message can be confusing because if you were just going to the website to read, it doesn't really matter. What it means is that if you fill out a form, or submit your credit card, that information is not encrypted.
They are using HTTPS, but their Lets Encrypt certificate is expired [imgur.com] and they either didn't set up auto-renew or don't care. It's been expired since September 19th. So 2 months now.

Doesn't mean they are necessarily a scam, but working SSL/TLS is a MUST in todays web. Especially since you can get free certificates...
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FantasticPencil1685
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This looks darn fake..
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Quote from gergev :
I wonder if the 45w port would charge it at a slower rate, or enough to use the laptop and not be draining the battery.
I bought an Acer with a thunderbolt 4 usb C port. The wall power supply that it came with is a delta ac/dc adapter with output 19V - 3.42A 65W.
Some of these car chargers specs in watts are based on 20V found in trucks and RV, but in a 12V car, would yield less than advertised watts.
I think it probably would, especially if you're not using the laptop, but YMMV.
Nov 23, 2022
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GinnyMaive
Nov 23, 2022
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I've had this charger a couple weeks - one of the vine reviews is by me. It charges my Pixel 6 much faster than my old charger or the car built in ports.

It feels well constructed - I've bought a lot of car chargers cuz I used to forget them in rental cars, and this feels a lot more solid than the $10-15 chargers I've bought in the past.

I don't understand PD well enough but my phone was pulling about 25W according to a little USB energy monitor I have.

I'd be surprised if it was not authentic.
Nov 23, 2022
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GinnyMaive
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Quote from tygron :
They are using HTTPS, but their Lets Encrypt certificate is expired [imgur.com] and they either didn't set up auto-renew or don't care. It's been expired since September 19th. So 2 months now.

Doesn't mean they are necessarily a scam, but working SSL/TLS is a MUST in todays web. Especially since you can get free certificates...
Off by one, it's been a year and two months. Your general point remains though.
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tygron
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Quote from eviljim :
Off by one, it's been a year and two months. Your general point remains though.
Oh wow can't believe I missed that. LMAO That makes it even worse. Love that my mind just auto-magically filled in 2022 for the year. Thankfully it's almost over.

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The_Love_Spud
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Quote from guaranteeit :
I assume these chargers run off your 12V battery right? I see these wattages going up and up and up. Back in the day it was just 5W or 10W USB Type A chargers. Now with people charging laptops with PPS and stuff, does this run a much higher risk of draining your car battery? I'd hate to see people need a jump over fast charging their cell phones!

This post makes me sound like a boomer, but trust me, I'm not, and I'm just a millennial trying to think more about this. I love fast charging, and sometimes it really is needed, but I often wonder if there's a way to toggle slower charging when our phones don't need it to preserve the battery of the phone better and in this case to prevent draining the heck out of your 12V car battery.
A typical 12V charging port in a car will be fused to something like 120W. This is typically well within the capability of a traditional internal combustion car's charging system (whose alternators push out over 1000W), so assuming your car is running the wattage is typically a non-issue as far as battery capacity is concerned. If you have a car which does allow accessory power when shut down, you could indeed find that after a night of charging your laptop you have a laptop ready to go and a car that... isn't. But is this a meaningful concern? (You'd have exactly the same problem with headlights when left overnight)

This also highlights the real use case for this kind of charger, which is less phones but also targets laptops and other higher-power USB-C devices.

Note that the limiting factor for most responsibly designed auto chargers is how efficiently they convert the auto's voltage into USB power and, more importantly, how well they get rid of the waste heat (more efficiency means less waste heat). For this reason most commodity chargers these days top out around the 40W range with a few examples pushing 60W. Anything too far beyond back has been the domain of back-alley sellers/brands.

The easiest way for most any user to toggle slow charging is to own and use slower chargers when appropriate. Keeping a 5W charger is great for the bedside table if you're still overnight charging, and could be good for the car if you're also needing a similar solution.

Good luck!
Jon
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