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De'Longhi Ecp3630 15 Bar Espresso and Cappuccino Machine with Adjustable Advanced Cappuccino System for
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Every cup to your liking 15-bar professional pressure assures quality results every time, and adjustable controls allow you to make modifications for your personal taste preferences brew like a pro whatever your preference single or double espresso, cappuccino, or latte the machine brews authentic barista your foam, your way a premium adjustable frother mixes steam one espresso shot or two.
The three-in-one filter holder, included with the unit, has a holder for one espresso shot, a holder for two shots, and one for an easy-serve espresso pod whatever your preference no waiting between cups the advanced cappuccino system maintains the optimal temperature so you can brew cup after cup instantly accommodates taller cups if you'd prefer a larger size beverage, no problem.
The bottom tray of the unit is easy to adjust or remove to fit taller cups sleek space-saving design with a sleek profile, compact design, and narrow footprint, each model fits beautifully on a kitchen countertop without taking up too much space convenient water tank the water tank is simple to remove, refill and reattach, and the water level is easily visible to eliminate the guesswork easy to clean removable water tank and drip tray make for easy cleanup, and the parts are dishwasher safe
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But yes, unfortunately you're looking at quite a bit more if you want to seriously put your money somewhere that counts. When I originally started getting interested in this and asked one of my buddies (who has had several machines over the years) for a recommendation in the $2-300 range, he simply said "just don't." He said anything you get under $500 is going to give you low quality pulls, inconsistent brewing/temperatures, or flat out quality issues with the unit including parts that break/leaks etc. The only way to break into that lower budget field, is to pick up a used Gaggia Classic Pro or similar entry level model (we don't even count the things like this deal as entry level, it's just low quality and not worth the money).
As the other poster said you're looking at $500 new though for a Gaggia. However, if I was seriously considering spending $500 on an espresso machine, I would just really suck it up and go for a Rancilio Silvia if you can find one for $6-700 new (i've seen this on eBay). As James Hoffmann said in one of his comparison videos, it's the closest budget machine to a commercial experience that he's seen. Like the Gaggia, it's a fairly simple design which means easy to repair and replace parts or upgrade if necessary. It also comes with a hell of a steam wand.
To really throw you through a loop though, you can also consider a manual press instead of one of these electric ones. Tomorrow for Black Friday, Flair is going to have their 20% off promotion again. You could pick up a extremely high quality manual machine for $2-300 that will give you excellent espresso....it just requires a little effort each time you want to pull a shot. The problem with this though is that if you want milk drinks you're going to need another device like the Breville Milk Cafe or Bellman Stovetop Steamer to give you something close to a steam wand. Those little wisk wands you see deals for just don't do the trick. If you just want straight high quality espresso though, this is no problem at all with a manual machine.
Your final hurdle to get over, for breaking into espresso at home, is the coffee grounds themselves. If you plan on grinding your own beans, you need a grinder that's capable of espresso quality grinding. It has to be very consistent and very fine. You can save some money and get a manual grinder like the 1Zpresso JX-Pro or J-Max (both on sale on Amazon with 20% off coupons) but then you're manually grinding which takes about 30 seconds for a single cup. Electric grinders get very expensive very quickly. The best bang for buck is the DF64 sold at espresso-outlet.com but that's a $350+ grinder. Some people say the Fellow Ode with upgraded SSP burrs is capable of espresso grinds but the the unit was not designed for espresso (it says so on the company website) and you're trying to force a tool to be used for the wrong purpose.
TLDR; this is an expensive hobby and unless you're looking to spend over $500 to get into espresso and commit time each morning to the process, you should save your cash and just get a drink every once in a while at your local roastery. It takes a long time to make your "at home" investment in to hardware worth the cash not to mention you will constantly have that upgrade itch that every hobby comes with. Also I mentioned James Hoffmann earlier, he has an extremely informative YouTube channel which I highly recommend if you wish to pursue the hobby. Beware he is quite the dandy gentleman which can annoy some lol... just know that his content is top notch for the field and he's highly respected.
But yes, unfortunately you're looking at quite a bit more if you want to seriously put your money somewhere that counts. When I originally started getting interested in this and asked one of my buddies (who has had several machines over the years) for a recommendation in the $2-300 range, he simply said "just don't." He said anything you get under $500 is going to give you low quality pulls, inconsistent brewing/temperatures, or flat out quality issues with the unit including parts that break/leaks etc. The only way to break into that lower budget field, is to pick up a used Gaggia Classic Pro or similar entry level model (we don't even count the things like this deal as entry level, it's just low quality and not worth the money).
As the other poster said you're looking at $500 new though for a Gaggia. However, if I was seriously considering spending $500 on an espresso machine, I would just really suck it up and go for a Rancilio Silvia if you can find one for $6-700 new (i've seen this on eBay). As James Hoffmann said in one of his comparison videos, it's the closest budget machine to a commercial experience that he's seen. Like the Gaggia, it's a fairly simple design which means easy to repair and replace parts or upgrade if necessary. It also comes with a hell of a steam wand.
To really throw you through a loop though, you can also consider a manual press instead of one of these electric ones. Tomorrow for Black Friday, Flair is going to have their 20% off promotion again. You could pick up a extremely high quality manual machine for $2-300 that will give you excellent espresso....it just requires a little effort each time you want to pull a shot. The problem with this though is that if you want milk drinks you're going to need another device like the Breville Milk Cafe or Bellman Stovetop Steamer to give you something close to a steam wand. Those little wisk wands you see deals for just don't do the trick. If you just want straight high quality espresso though, this is no problem at all with a manual machine.
Your final hurdle to get over, for breaking into espresso at home, is the coffee grounds themselves. If you plan on grinding your own beans, you need a grinder that's capable of espresso quality grinding. It has to be very consistent and very fine. You can save some money and get a manual grinder like the 1Zpresso JX-Pro or J-Max (both on sale on Amazon with 20% off coupons) but then you're manually grinding which takes about 30 seconds for a single cup. Electric grinders get very expensive very quickly. The best bang for buck is the DF64 sold at espresso-outlet.com but that's a $350+ grinder. Some people say the Fellow Ode with upgraded SSP burrs is capable of espresso grinds but the the unit was not designed for espresso (it says so on the company website) and you're trying to force a tool to be used for the wrong purpose.
TLDR; this is an expensive hobby and unless you're looking to spend over $500 to get into espresso and commit time each morning to the process, you should save your cash and just get a drink every once in a while at your local roastery. It takes a long time to make your "at home" investment in to hardware worth the cash not to mention you will constantly have that upgrade itch that every hobby comes with. Also I mentioned James Hoffmann earlier, he has an extremely informative YouTube channel which I highly recommend if you wish to pursue the hobby. Beware he is quite the dandy gentleman which can annoy some lol... just know that his content is top notch for the field and he's highly respected.
Sure you can get a hand crank manual machine that'll pull a decent shot for $150-200, you'll still need a grinder that has espresso appropriate grind settings which will likely set you back $700+. I have a great grinder at home and even that won't grind fine enough or consistent enough for proper espresso. I assume that will be the sticking point with this machine as well, even if the pressure and temperature were perfect.
A good shot costs $3-4 at a good and local coffee place. A good latte will set you back $5-6 and I think that's worth it to have one or two of those a week while making coffee at home the rest of the time. Plus you'll be keeping local folks employed and money flowing into a local coffee shop.
I work from home and I have the time in the morning or early afternoon to do this, and Im not rich but I get by, and I love coffee and espresso. Still - this isn't something I'll be doing anytime soon, if ever.
Sure you can get a hand crank manual machine that'll pull a decent shot for $150-200, you'll still need a grinder that has espresso appropriate grind settings which will likely set you back $700+. I have a great grinder at home and even that won't grind fine enough or consistent enough for proper espresso. I assume that will be the sticking point with this machine as well, even if the pressure and temperature were perfect.
A good shot costs $3-4 at a good and local coffee place. A good latte will set you back $5-6 and I think that's worth it to have one or two of those a week while making coffee at home the rest of the time. Plus you'll be keeping local folks employed and money flowing into a local coffee shop.
I work from home and I have the time in the morning or early afternoon to do this, and Im not rich but I get by, and I love coffee and espresso. Still - this isn't something I'll be doing anytime soon, if ever.
But yes, unfortunately you're looking at quite a bit more if you want to seriously put your money somewhere that counts. When I originally started getting interested in this and asked one of my buddies (who has had several machines over the years) for a recommendation in the $2-300 range, he simply said "just don't." He said anything you get under $500 is going to give you low quality pulls, inconsistent brewing/temperatures, or flat out quality issues with the unit including parts that break/leaks etc. The only way to break into that lower budget field, is to pick up a used Gaggia Classic Pro or similar entry level model (we don't even count the things like this deal as entry level, it's just low quality and not worth the money).
As the other poster said you're looking at $500 new though for a Gaggia. However, if I was seriously considering spending $500 on an espresso machine, I would just really suck it up and go for a Rancilio Silvia if you can find one for $6-700 new (i've seen this on eBay). As James Hoffmann said in one of his comparison videos, it's the closest budget machine to a commercial experience that he's seen. Like the Gaggia, it's a fairly simple design which means easy to repair and replace parts or upgrade if necessary. It also comes with a hell of a steam wand.
To really throw you through a loop though, you can also consider a manual press instead of one of these electric ones. Tomorrow for Black Friday, Flair is going to have their 20% off promotion again. You could pick up a extremely high quality manual machine for $2-300 that will give you excellent espresso....it just requires a little effort each time you want to pull a shot. The problem with this though is that if you want milk drinks you're going to need another device like the Breville Milk Cafe or Bellman Stovetop Steamer to give you something close to a steam wand. Those little wisk wands you see deals for just don't do the trick. If you just want straight high quality espresso though, this is no problem at all with a manual machine.
Your final hurdle to get over, for breaking into espresso at home, is the coffee grounds themselves. If you plan on grinding your own beans, you need a grinder that's capable of espresso quality grinding. It has to be very consistent and very fine. You can save some money and get a manual grinder like the 1Zpresso JX-Pro or J-Max (both on sale on Amazon with 20% off coupons) but then you're manually grinding which takes about 30 seconds for a single cup. Electric grinders get very expensive very quickly. The best bang for buck is the DF64 sold at espresso-outlet.com but that's a $350+ grinder. Some people say the Fellow Ode with upgraded SSP burrs is capable of espresso grinds but the the unit was not designed for espresso (it says so on the company website) and you're trying to force a tool to be used for the wrong purpose.
TLDR; this is an expensive hobby and unless you're looking to spend over $500 to get into espresso and commit time each morning to the process, you should save your cash and just get a drink every once in a while at your local roastery. It takes a long time to make your "at home" investment in to hardware worth the cash not to mention you will constantly have that upgrade itch that every hobby comes with. Also I mentioned James Hoffmann earlier, he has an extremely informative YouTube channel which I highly recommend if you wish to pursue the hobby. Beware he is quite the dandy gentleman which can annoy some lol... just know that his content is top notch for the field and he's highly respected.
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But yes, unfortunately you're looking at quite a bit more if you want to seriously put your money somewhere that counts. When I originally started getting interested in this and asked one of my buddies (who has had several machines over the years) for a recommendation in the $2-300 range, he simply said "just don't." He said anything you get under $500 is going to give you low quality pulls, inconsistent brewing/temperatures, or flat out quality issues with the unit including parts that break/leaks etc. The only way to break into that lower budget field, is to pick up a used Gaggia Classic Pro or similar entry level model (we don't even count the things like this deal as entry level, it's just low quality and not worth the money).
As the other poster said you're looking at $500 new though for a Gaggia. However, if I was seriously considering spending $500 on an espresso machine, I would just really suck it up and go for a Rancilio Silvia if you can find one for $6-700 new (i've seen this on eBay). As James Hoffmann said in one of his comparison videos, it's the closest budget machine to a commercial experience that he's seen. Like the Gaggia, it's a fairly simple design which means easy to repair and replace parts or upgrade if necessary. It also comes with a hell of a steam wand.
To really throw you through a loop though, you can also consider a manual press instead of one of these electric ones. Tomorrow for Black Friday, Flair is going to have their 20% off promotion again. You could pick up a extremely high quality manual machine for $2-300 that will give you excellent espresso....it just requires a little effort each time you want to pull a shot. The problem with this though is that if you want milk drinks you're going to need another device like the Breville Milk Cafe or Bellman Stovetop Steamer to give you something close to a steam wand. Those little wisk wands you see deals for just don't do the trick. If you just want straight high quality espresso though, this is no problem at all with a manual machine.
Your final hurdle to get over, for breaking into espresso at home, is the coffee grounds themselves. If you plan on grinding your own beans, you need a grinder that's capable of espresso quality grinding. It has to be very consistent and very fine. You can save some money and get a manual grinder like the 1Zpresso JX-Pro or J-Max (both on sale on Amazon with 20% off coupons) but then you're manually grinding which takes about 30 seconds for a single cup. Electric grinders get very expensive very quickly. The best bang for buck is the DF64 sold at espresso-outlet.com but that's a $350+ grinder. Some people say the Fellow Ode with upgraded SSP burrs is capable of espresso grinds but the the unit was not designed for espresso (it says so on the company website) and you're trying to force a tool to be used for the wrong purpose.
TLDR; this is an expensive hobby and unless you're looking to spend over $500 to get into espresso and commit time each morning to the process, you should save your cash and just get a drink every once in a while at your local roastery. It takes a long time to make your "at home" investment in to hardware worth the cash not to mention you will constantly have that upgrade itch that every hobby comes with. Also I mentioned James Hoffmann earlier, he has an extremely informative YouTube channel which I highly recommend if you wish to pursue the hobby. Beware he is quite the dandy gentleman which can annoy some lol... just know that his content is top notch for the field and he's highly respected.
I for example drink atleast few lattes a day, some espresso straight in a single day. If I were to go to a local coffee shop each day..that would set me back 15 to 20$ a coffee each day.
I have invested in a 700$ coffee grinder, dual boiler breville. Single boiler bes870xl similar to this model and it has paid itself off the last 4 to5 years I have been using.
Your comment is true, the only consideration is if someone is specific or picky about their coffee( I have at times even Starbucks pull crap coffee due to the mixing or just the roast may be stale?) And or someone drinks two three lattes capacunnios daily then investing 1 to 2 2.5k usd is well worth it..
Before this, I used to spend 6 to 10$ at Starbucks a day five days a week *grabs when going to work yeah burnt too much
When I researched and got into buying myself the breville bes870xl that had so so grinder I stepped up got the Baratza Forte at a bargain price years before covid.then realized the coffee latte was not warm as the one above and bes870xl are single boiler.
With a dual boiler you can stream milk and pull the shot at the same time.
Yes you quickly go down the rabbit hole of spending $$$ but consider I used to spend 5 to 8$ a day times 5 times 4 that was 6 to 700$ on just coffee a month ..dang
I feel stupid for not investing In good coffee machines sooner..
As to the fact about more work in semi automatic vs nespresso or other low end ones..If you are serious about how you like your coffee and are passionate the rest isn't that hard
Yes you do need to change the filters, clean the machine etc and Descale too but well worth the cost.
I recouped the cost of all my gear the first year itself and it's 2023 almost now.
So when you look at buying into these expensive machines..it's not that simple..and thr extra work cost might be worth it.
Now if you are someone who can't tell or bother to know the difference between
Espresso
Ristretto
Americano.
Capacunnos
Lattes
Then maybe just get the cheaper coffee machines below 100$..
It takes time to master a good shot pull.
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