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Synology DiskStation NAS Enclosure: DS1621+ 6-Bay $720, DS220j 2-Bay

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Available (prices after in-cart coupon):Features (DS220):
  • 2 x 3.5/2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Drive Bays
  • 2.0 GHz Intel Celeron J4025 Dual-Core
  • 2GB DDR4 RAM
  • 2 x Gigabit Ethernet Ports
  • 2 x USB 3.0 Type-A Ports
  • RAID 0, 1, Basic, Hybrid, and JBOD
  • Sequential Reads up to 225.98 MB/s
  • Sequential Writes up to 192.21 MB/s
  • AES-NI Hardware Encryption Engine
  • Synology DiskStation Manager OS

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  • About this deal:
    • The price of the Synology DiskStation DS220+ 2-Bay NAS Enclosure is $59.99 lower (20% savings) than the list price of $299.99.
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    • Limited 2-Year Warranty
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Update: This very popular deal is still available.

B&H Photo Video has select Synology DiskStation NAS Enclosures on sale for the prices listed after in-cart coupon. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for finding this deal.

Note: Coupon will be applied in cart.

Available (prices after in-cart coupon):Features (DS220):
  • 2 x 3.5/2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Drive Bays
  • 2.0 GHz Intel Celeron J4025 Dual-Core
  • 2GB DDR4 RAM
  • 2 x Gigabit Ethernet Ports
  • 2 x USB 3.0 Type-A Ports
  • RAID 0, 1, Basic, Hybrid, and JBOD
  • Sequential Reads up to 225.98 MB/s
  • Sequential Writes up to 192.21 MB/s
  • AES-NI Hardware Encryption Engine
  • Synology DiskStation Manager OS

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • The price of the Synology DiskStation DS220+ 2-Bay NAS Enclosure is $59.99 lower (20% savings) than the list price of $299.99.
  • About this product:
    • Limited 2-Year Warranty
  • About this store:
    • Details of B&H Photo Video's return policy here
  • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.
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Raeynn
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Hello, assuming you wanted a serious answer:

Many people that have built a legitimate library of DVDs over the years have started digitizing legally due to the prevalence of streaming boxes - one of the primary Plex use cases. And when you have media on a Plex server, the media can only be encoded in one format, at one resolution (let's say 4K, Format 1).

So if you stream that 4K media file straight to a device (let's say an Apple TV with 4K) no transcoding is needed and the file is accessed as is.

But if you stream that file on your secondary 1080p Roku TV, it needs a different resolution and maybe a different format. Then the Plex server will transcode the file as it streams, converting the file from 4K Format 1, to 1080p Format 2. This requires computational resources from the CPU/RAM of the device, and the Intel/Plex combo is better suited, for deeper technical reasons.

This also applies to Synology's music and video integrated streaming services as well as other manufacturer offerings.

Now if your reference of "storing and accessing files" simply means "flat files" like documents and photos, no, transcoding is not a factor for you and yes the AMD solutions will be a general performance improvement. But many people use NAS for their significant media streaming features, as a legal digitization/streaming of their owned content, and thus the spirited conversation on this post.

Hope this helps!
AMv8
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Dude. You really need to review the definition of "obsolete". You've used it wrong 3 different times in different ways.
Plex users aren't "made obsolete" By Synology because they've chosen to shift their "+" line to the SMB market. That has no bearing on Plex Users, Transcoding, or even the previous gen "+" models. They didn't lose QSV transcoding capability overnight. They still transcode exactly as well as they did the day they launched.
Synology has just chosen to end that product line's support for Intel iGPU assisted transcoding going forward. Weighing their customer base for these lines, and choosing SMB customer needs for CPU performance, over enthusiast Plex users.
And as for being "limited to 4 bays" there's always the DX517.
But if your storage needs are growing that much, you should either be replacing aging low capacity HDDs, or transitioning to a more robust storage solution.
Flabby_Pig
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Synology is making Plex users obsolete by moving away from Intel processors which allowed 4k transcoding. Just build your own and go with TrueNAS or Unraid

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Nov 23, 2022
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mike66
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from bluedha :
Synology DS920+ or QNAP TS-453D that's on sale right now for $399?
I will go with TS-453D, for it's built-in 2.5G network and PCIe expansion. Been using 2.5G for quite some time and trust me this is the right way to go. 1GbE is just so outdated and a 6 7 years old Intel NAS can maximize the speed. You can pick up a 2.5G network adapter for about 30 bucks.
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slickCL11
Nov 23, 2022
555 Posts
Quote from Jon2288 :
Yes, don't port forward. Even better would be direct to VPN to uour home network.
How can I make rsync work with a VPN first? I have a nightly process backup that pushes files to a DS218+
Nov 23, 2022
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bloodcarnival
Nov 23, 2022
11 Posts
I made a mistake and opted for the 220+ last year. If you plan to use docker, plex, *arr stack or torrenting "stuff" on your NAS, might as well go 4 bays or more. My 28 TB RAID 1 setup is quickly getting filled with data. I'm planning on switching over to the 920+ and throwing my 2x 14 TB along with another 2x 16-20TB.
Nov 23, 2022
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poover
Nov 23, 2022
341 Posts
I don't intend to run Plex on the NAS; I have a dedicated PC to run as the Plex server and just use the NAS to store the movies. My Roku Ultra is set for "Direct Play" and it plays even 4K movies fine.
Last edited by poover November 23, 2022 at 07:47 AM.
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Nov 23, 2022
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68droptop
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from Medic311 :
man, no 1821+ ?
hopefully that goes on sale too
I know! I've been waiting for it to go on sale for months now to replace a DS1815+ that failed on me a few months back and I had to repair it. I am always worried it's going to fail again. I'm tempted to just order one now and order another if a sale comes up to ensure stock doesn't run out!
Nov 23, 2022
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cobra11murderer
Nov 23, 2022
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does any one know what model has the issue with the time clock going out? it requires soldering a new one.. I am aware of this from my job but dont remember the model number of what we have..

in any case its just a question I prob could find out more info but figured id ask yall
Nov 23, 2022
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Jon2288
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from slickCL11 :
How can I make rsync work with a VPN first? I have a nightly process backup that pushes files to a DS218+
Is the system you're rsyncing from off your home network where the DS218+ is?

If so, you would need to script or use a bot program to pull up VPN, wait a bit and then start the transfer with rsync. It's an extra step but can be done with low code or no code solutions. Same premise as backing up/syncing natively to the DS218+ as a file share server over VPN, just would be user driven on when you connect to it to sync. If you're home every night, it would happen routinely that way.

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Nov 23, 2022
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AMv8
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from cobra11murderer :
does any one know what model has the issue with the time clock going out? it requires soldering a new one.. I am aware of this from my job but dont remember the model number of what we have..

in any case its just a question I prob could find out more info but figured id ask yall
I think you're talking about the Avoton Atom CPUs...
C2350, C2550, C2750, etc.
Nov 23, 2022
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audiophoool
Nov 23, 2022
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank audiophoool

Since I've been in the market for a NAS and was going to go with a 720+ and need it fast, I decided to buy this one (920+) from BH today and have it delivered Friday. I asked if BH would honor the price drop, and they said yes...

"You can always make the purchase now and if the price drops you would have our 30 day price protection. You would only need to contact our Customer Service Dept for a refund of the difference."
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Nov 23, 2022
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AquaGalley8616
Nov 23, 2022
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...seems like a good sale. Good luck everybody.
Last edited by AquaGalley8616 November 23, 2022 at 11:10 AM.
Nov 23, 2022
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fenster
Nov 23, 2022
128 Posts
Quote from bloodcarnival :
I made a mistake and opted for the 220+ last year. If you plan to use docker, plex, *arr stack or torrenting "stuff" on your NAS, might as well go 4 bays or more. My 28 TB RAID 1 setup is quickly getting filled with data. I'm planning on switching over to the 920+ and throwing my 2x 14 TB along with another 2x 16-20TB.
Same here. My 220+ has been flawless, but I should have gone with a 4-bay for scalability. The 920+ is going to be very tempting.
Nov 23, 2022
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lazlo
Nov 23, 2022
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Quote from zeroquest :
1621+ here, absolutely love it. It's been rock solid for nearly a year. Plex runs and works perfectly for us. (Max 3 streams)
I have a very different experience.

Transcoding absolutely sucks on ny 1621+. A single 4K transcode absolutely pegs the processor, because Plex doesn't support the AMD streaming SIMD instructions, so transcoding it relegated to floating point instructions.

The net effect is the video stream stutters, there are frustrating "there is not enough bandwidth to support this video" popups, scanning forward and backward in the video takes ages for the stream to re-encode and catch-up...

..and for the "Nuh uh!" replies: I'm streaming to a Shield TV running Kodi with the Plex plug-in. That's about as high-end as a client device gets.

If you're wondering why transcoding matters on Plex: if the video codec/container/stream is not exactly what Plex is expecting: bit rates, video codec, audio encoding, bit depth... Plex will automatically resort to transcoding the stream.

There are many web pages dedicated to the combination of video codec, encoding settings Plex needs to avoid transcoding.

This isn't Plex's fault either: they wrote their code around Intel's streaming SIMD instructions, which makes even an older processor vastly more efficient. AMD surpassed Intel 3 years ago, but doesn't have enough market segment for Plex to consider re-writing the code.
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1BadBoy
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Watching this Black Friday sale, thanks OP.
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dylanfoos
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Best one to get for a 4K plex server ?
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hansvelas
Nov 23, 2022
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I've been looking for a NAS but am still a little unfamiliar with everything-- wondering if y'all could help me understand a little more.

1 - I mostly want a private Dropbox that I can access from multiple computers. At home and away. Would this be ideal? I'm a motion graphics artist and have a lot of assets that I need to have on hand but I use multiple computers. For now I've just been storing mostly everything on a corporate Dropbox but would like to have something for myself that I can access anywhere.

2 - if that is possible, are there gonna be some weird network issues that I might run into if I try to access the NAS on a more protected network? The internet I have at the office is pretty restrictive. For example, I can't access my home desktop via Parsec.

3 - Will I be able to mix and match different size harddrives? I have 2 8TBs and 1 6TB.

4 - Do I have to completely wipe each drive on first setup?

5 - If I share this server with others, can I password protect certain folders?

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