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11-23-2022 at 11:08 AM.
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Someone with first hand experience on the security benefits of this Wolf Pro Security Edition?
For personal use, I think you can disable it.
That is more of a corporate focused feature. Another thing to anybody planning to get this laptop, set a BIOS password 1st before doing anything. I think a lot of you have read some posts where people after adding their own components like SSD or Ram, found out that it is going into a security lock and can be opened only with the default components added and thought HP locked the device against third party components. I did a bit research and found out that all 2022 Business Laptops come with HP's Tamper Lock Protecion agsinst physcical attack where attacker changes the internals. For a corpotate, that is actually a genuine concerns as somebody in your IT department with wrong intention can do that, like replacing the SSD with a cloned version of the original one and some malicious software.
If you buy one which is configurable in HP, you will see that Tamper Lock Enabled and Disabled Option selection within it. The preconfigured models almost always come with Tamper Lock enabled and for that you need to setup a Bios password 1st with the default hardware inside. After that, if you change anything, it will go to BIOS 1st automatically during restart and ask your Bios Password and upon providing it, it will allow you to use it. Most people, for home usage, never setup Bios Password and that caused the issue of the laptop not booting to OS after hardware changes. Alternatively, you can also disable Tamper Lock completely before making any internal upgrades.
Agree. Our organization uses the Lenovo Thinkpad universal USB C docks and they work great.
I looked at those as well when we were determining an alternative. We went with Startech. It's been great. Zero issues and frankly both the Lenovo and Startech are designed better than the HP G5 dock.
Whatever engineer decided to put the connecting cable straight out the front of the machine should be fired. It's worth using a different dock for that alone.
For personal use, I think you can disable it.
That is more of a corporate focused feature. Another thing to anybody planning to get this laptop, set a BIOS password 1st before doing anything. I think a lot of you have read some posts where people after adding their own components like SSD or Ram, found out that it is going into a security lock and can be opened only with the default components added and thought HP locked the device against third party components. I did a bit research and found out that all 2022 Business Laptops come with HP's Tamper Lock Protecion agsinst physcical attack where attacker changes the internals. For a corpotate, that is actually a genuine concerns as somebody in your IT department with wrong intention can do that, like replacing the SSD with a cloned version of the original one and some malicious software.
If you buy one which is configurable in HP, you will see that Tamper Lock Enabled and Disabled Option selection within it. The preconfigured models almost always come with Tamper Lock enabled and for that you need to setup a Bios password 1st with the default hardware inside. After that, if you change anything, it will go to BIOS 1st automatically during restart and ask your Bios Password and upon providing it, it will allow you to use it. Most people, for home usage, never setup Bios Password and that caused the issue of the laptop not booting to OS after hardware changes. Alternatively, you can also disable Tamper Lock completely before making any internal upgrades.
Great tip!
How do we disable tamper lock? Is that done from the bios itself, or elsewhere? After that, do we remove the bios password so we don't need to enter it on every reboot? Or will it only ask that again if and when a component is changed or chassis is opened?
I tried looking it up but didn't find a straight answer..
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Horrendous Ethernet issues. Disconnections etc. (In our corporate environment we had to move to a third party dock).
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That is more of a corporate focused feature.
Another thing to anybody planning to get this laptop, set a BIOS password 1st before doing anything. I think a lot of you have read some posts where people after adding their own components like SSD or Ram, found out that it is going into a security lock and can be opened only with the default components added and thought HP locked the device against third party components. I did a bit research and found out that all 2022 Business Laptops come with HP's Tamper Lock Protecion agsinst physcical attack where attacker changes the internals. For a corpotate, that is actually a genuine concerns as somebody in your IT department with wrong intention can do that, like replacing the SSD with a cloned version of the original one and some malicious software.
If you buy one which is configurable in HP, you will see that Tamper Lock Enabled and Disabled Option selection within it. The preconfigured models almost always come with Tamper Lock enabled and for that you need to setup a Bios password 1st with the default hardware inside. After that, if you change anything, it will go to BIOS 1st automatically during restart and ask your Bios Password and upon providing it, it will allow you to use it. Most people, for home usage, never setup Bios Password and that caused the issue of the laptop not booting to OS after hardware changes. Alternatively, you can also disable Tamper Lock completely before making any internal upgrades.
Agree. Our organization uses the Lenovo Thinkpad universal USB C docks and they work great.
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Whatever engineer decided to put the connecting cable straight out the front of the machine should be fired. It's worth using a different dock for that alone.
That is more of a corporate focused feature.
Another thing to anybody planning to get this laptop, set a BIOS password 1st before doing anything. I think a lot of you have read some posts where people after adding their own components like SSD or Ram, found out that it is going into a security lock and can be opened only with the default components added and thought HP locked the device against third party components. I did a bit research and found out that all 2022 Business Laptops come with HP's Tamper Lock Protecion agsinst physcical attack where attacker changes the internals. For a corpotate, that is actually a genuine concerns as somebody in your IT department with wrong intention can do that, like replacing the SSD with a cloned version of the original one and some malicious software.
If you buy one which is configurable in HP, you will see that Tamper Lock Enabled and Disabled Option selection within it. The preconfigured models almost always come with Tamper Lock enabled and for that you need to setup a Bios password 1st with the default hardware inside. After that, if you change anything, it will go to BIOS 1st automatically during restart and ask your Bios Password and upon providing it, it will allow you to use it. Most people, for home usage, never setup Bios Password and that caused the issue of the laptop not booting to OS after hardware changes. Alternatively, you can also disable Tamper Lock completely before making any internal upgrades.
Great tip!
How do we disable tamper lock? Is that done from the bios itself, or elsewhere? After that, do we remove the bios password so we don't need to enter it on every reboot? Or will it only ask that again if and when a component is changed or chassis is opened?
I tried looking it up but didn't find a straight answer..
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