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Denon AVR-X3800H 9.4-Channel 8K A/V Receiver

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ListenUp has Denon AVR-X3800H 9.4-Channel 8K A/V Receiver on sale for $1699 - Extra $254.85 Off w/ discount code CYBER15 (apply in cart) = $1444.15. Shipping is free.

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Orta
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It's not expensive cause it has 4 sub-ins (you can Y-cable as many subs as you want to any AVR), it's expensive cause the small cartel of AVR manufacturers discovered during Covid that they could get away with raising prices 2-3x through implicit collusion. In 2019/2020 the X3500 went on sales as low as $500, and the X3600H as low as $699. Once the shortages hit they all jacked prices to the moon and left them there.

The primary reason you buy the more expensive AVR's is the sophistication of the room correction/auto EQ software suites. Wattage doesn't really matter as the power to volume curve quickly becomes exponential, DAC's/Amp's of sufficient quality are trivial by modern standards, and even the lowest end models typically have enough inputs for 99% of people. So ultimately you're paying a hefty premium for the EQ software.

The Onkyo NR7100 (if you only need 9 channels) or RZ50 (if you need 11 channels) have better room correction out of the box (Dirac Live) and are typically a couple hundred less than the comparable Denon's. Dirac Live isn't as beginner/user friendly as Audyssey XT32 that comes with the 3000-series and higher Denon's though. Also of note is that the X3800 and higher model Denon's can be upgraded to Dirac Live for an additional $350 fee (not a typo, that's three hundred fifty dollars).

If you only need 7 channels and want something much cheaper, the Denon S760H or X1700 are probably the best buys. Both their room correction suites are inferior to XT32 and Dirac, but the 1700's is marginally better than the 760's (only worth maybe $100 - $150 extra however).
GBotDO
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Multiple subs do increase output but when done right it serves to smooth out peaks and nulls so that everyone in your room has an equally enjoyable experience.

Besides, these are specialty products and we are a niche demographic. A lot of us have dedicated theaters in our basements and/or live on property far from neighbors.
darrin0
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The reason you pay more is for processing more channels in one receiver. Agree on the implicit collusion though. I can buy 3 receivers that process 21 channels separately for the same price of one receiver that processes 11 channels. It's a joke.

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Nov 28, 2022 05:36 AM
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jtraynerNov 28, 2022 05:36 AM
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If I have no plans to do 4 subs which receiver is recommended?
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Nov 28, 2022 05:55 AM
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Pabz1Nov 28, 2022 05:55 AM
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Is this website legit? I've never heard of it.
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thelegaldreamteamNov 28, 2022 05:55 AM
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Quote from jtrayner :
If I have no plans to do 4 subs which receiver is recommended?
4 subs? Your neighbors must hate your guts.
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GBotDONov 28, 2022 05:56 AM
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Authorized retailer?
Nov 28, 2022 05:59 AM
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GBotDONov 28, 2022 05:59 AM
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Quote from thelegaldreamteam :
4 subs? Your neighbors must hate your guts.
Multiple subs do increase output but when done right it serves to smooth out peaks and nulls so that everyone in your room has an equally enjoyable experience.

Besides, these are specialty products and we are a niche demographic. A lot of us have dedicated theaters in our basements and/or live on property far from neighbors.
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Nov 28, 2022 06:05 AM
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dokteriq0Nov 28, 2022 06:05 AM
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Quote from jtrayner :
If I have no plans to do 4 subs which receiver is recommended?
Still this one.

X2800 is an alternate option but this model has the premium chipset with advanced features that aren't on 2800.
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OrtaNov 28, 2022 06:50 AM
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Quote from jtrayner :
If I have no plans to do 4 subs which receiver is recommended?
It's not expensive cause it has 4 sub-ins (you can Y-cable as many subs as you want to any AVR), it's expensive cause the small cartel of AVR manufacturers discovered during Covid that they could get away with raising prices 2-3x through implicit collusion. In 2019/2020 the X3500 went on sales as low as $500, and the X3600H as low as $699. Once the shortages hit they all jacked prices to the moon and left them there.

The primary reason you buy the more expensive AVR's is the sophistication of the room correction/auto EQ software suites. Wattage doesn't really matter as the power to volume curve quickly becomes exponential, DAC's/Amp's of sufficient quality are trivial by modern standards, and even the lowest end models typically have enough inputs for 99% of people. So ultimately you're paying a hefty premium for the EQ software.

The Onkyo NR7100 (if you only need 9 channels) or RZ50 (if you need 11 channels) have better room correction out of the box (Dirac Live) and are typically a couple hundred less than the comparable Denon's. Dirac Live isn't as beginner/user friendly as Audyssey XT32 that comes with the 3000-series and higher Denon's though. Also of note is that the X3800 and higher model Denon's can be upgraded to Dirac Live for an additional $350 fee (not a typo, that's three hundred fifty dollars).

If you only need 7 channels and want something much cheaper, the Denon S760H or X1700 are probably the best buys. Both their room correction suites are inferior to XT32 and Dirac, but the 1700's is marginally better than the 760's (only worth maybe $100 - $150 extra however).
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Is this website legit? I've never heard of it.
same concern.
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darrin0Nov 28, 2022 08:37 AM
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Quote from Orta :
It's not expensive cause it has 4 sub-ins (you can Y-cable as many subs as you want to any AVR), it's expensive cause the small cartel of AVR manufacturers discovered during Covid that they could get away with raising prices 2-3x through implicit collusion. In 2019/2020 the X3500 went on sales as low as $500, and the X3600H as low as $699. Once the shortages hit they all jacked prices to the moon and left them there.

The primary reason you buy the more expensive AVR's is the sophistication of the room correction/auto EQ software suites. Wattage doesn't really matter as the power to volume curve quickly becomes exponential, DAC's/Amp's of sufficient quality are trivial by modern standards, and even the lowest end models typically have enough inputs for 99% of people. So ultimately you're paying a hefty premium for the EQ software.

The Onkyo NR7100 (if you only need 9 channels) or RZ50 (if you need 11 channels) have better room correction out of the box (Dirac Live) and are typically a couple hundred less than the comparable Denon's. Dirac Live isn't as beginner/user friendly as Audyssey XT32 that comes with the 3000-series and higher Denon's though. Also of note is that the X3800 and higher model Denon's can be upgraded to Dirac Live for an additional $350 fee (not a typo, that's three hundred fifty dollars).

If you only need 7 channels and want something much cheaper, the Denon S760H or X1700 are probably the best buys. Both their room correction suites are inferior to XT32 and Dirac, but the 1700's is marginally better than the 760's (only worth maybe $100 - $150 extra however).
The reason you pay more is for processing more channels in one receiver. Agree on the implicit collusion though. I can buy 3 receivers that process 21 channels separately for the same price of one receiver that processes 11 channels. It's a joke.
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StreetJediNov 28, 2022 10:27 AM
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Quote from Orta :
It's not expensive cause it has 4 sub-ins (you can Y-cable as many subs as you want to any AVR), it's expensive cause the small cartel of AVR manufacturers discovered during Covid that they could get away with raising prices 2-3x through implicit collusion. In 2019/2020 the X3500 went on sales as low as $500, and the X3600H as low as $699. Once the shortages hit they all jacked prices to the moon and left them there.

The primary reason you buy the more expensive AVR's is the sophistication of the room correction/auto EQ software suites. Wattage doesn't really matter as the power to volume curve quickly becomes exponential, DAC's/Amp's of sufficient quality are trivial by modern standards, and even the lowest end models typically have enough inputs for 99% of people. So ultimately you're paying a hefty premium for the EQ software.

The Onkyo NR7100 (if you only need 9 channels) or RZ50 (if you need 11 channels) have better room correction out of the box (Dirac Live) and are typically a couple hundred less than the comparable Denon's. Dirac Live isn't as beginner/user friendly as Audyssey XT32 that comes with the 3000-series and higher Denon's though. Also of note is that the X3800 and higher model Denon's can be upgraded to Dirac Live for an additional $350 fee (not a typo, that's three hundred fifty dollars).

If you only need 7 channels and want something much cheaper, the Denon S760H or X1700 are probably the best buys. Both their room correction suites are inferior to XT32 and Dirac, but the 1700's is marginally better than the 760's (only worth maybe $100 - $150 extra however).
Daisy-chaining subs doesn't time delay or EQ them. You can easily make them sound worse by creating cancellations and may not address nulls. Getting a miniDSP is a far better solution.

Using Audessy can also make the final product actually worse. Getting the separate app is crucial in maximizing what it does. For instance, mid bass correction and EQing above 500hz can produce worse sound.

If you properly use Audessy then Dirac isn't challenging, and if room EQ matters and you're spending $1500+ on an AVR, an extra $350 for far better room correction is more than worth it.

But overall true, you only should get what you need, whether it be a simple sound bar or pre/pro separates.
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JickywooNov 28, 2022 01:13 PM
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Quote from GBotDO :
Authorized retailer?
I checked Denon's website and they showed up as a retailer. Went ahead and pulled the trigger on this one. Been waiting for a deal on the 3800
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MarioM1947Nov 28, 2022 01:38 PM
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They're legit. I bought a 6700h from them via Amazon (older model yes but currently on sale for $2100 there) and got it like in two days. They're a store in Denver if you Google them, great service
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NootnacNov 28, 2022 01:41 PM
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Due to chip shortage, this series has inferior DAC. If the receiver was $500, I might consider. But high price, lower quality, and no other improvements over its predecessors means I'm not biting.
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Quote from smart84 :
same concern.
yes they are legit. denver based

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