The following post is only my personal opinion based off of the measurements I've viewed, a variety of reviews, and large amounts of lurking in audio forums and review sites; I consider myself fairly well informed but I am not an expert.
As fantastic of a discount as this is, I would greatly recommend the vast majority of people to avoid these headphones for serveral reasons:
First, since I know people wander onto these headphone deals not realizing these are audiophile cans for critical listening, here's some basic information: these headphones are wired only (no bluetooth or wireless connections of any kind), have no form of active noise cancelling, have extremely poor sound isolation (you can hear whats going on around you, and everyone around you can hear what you're listening too), and are extremely heavy and bulky. They are designed to be used at home with a dedicated audio setup.
Next, a very powerful headphone amplifier is 100% necessary to get even semi-decent sound out of these cans. Hifiman recommends an absolute minimum of 2 watts into 50 ohms, and many people who own these headphones recommend up to 5 watts into 50 ohms, which is an absolutely ludicrous amount of power. If you don't already have a very powerful desktop dac-amp setup, don't even think about buying these.
Another issue is that Hifiman is infamous for exceptionally poor quality control and build quality. It's pretty much accepted as a fact that if you buy a Hifiman headphone you're quite likely to be looking for a replacement in a couple years unless you get rather lucky, and that's assuming you get one that's good to begin with. This also applies just as much to their high end cans such as the He6se, if you want some examples try reading the forum thread for the he6se review on audiosciencereview. A recent example there is a guy who received three bad pairs from them in a row before they just refunded him rather than send him a fourth, and he specifically asked them to test the headphones before sending them to make sure they had no issues after he had problems with the initial ones.
Yet another reason to avoid these headphones is the value proposition: while several years ago this would have been a pretty good deal even considering the above mentioned points, there are much better value headphones nowadays, even from hifiman themselves. If you're looking for super high end sound in a similar price range the hifiman edition xs are arguably just better than the he6se, require far less power to drive, and also go on sale for ~$450 or less. Build quality and quality control are crap on the edition xs as well, but that's just par for the course with hifiman. The hifiamn sundara are somewhat worse than the he6se in most respects but are far easier to drive, and go on sale for ~$250 making them far more palatable to replace when they inevitably develop issues as hifiamn cans are wont to do. I could go on recommending other headphones, but I'll only list those two hifiman models to avoid getting too far off track.
Overall, if you already have an amp capable of driving the he6se, prefer it's tuning and sound signature over other headphones in it's price range, and don't mind hifimans quality control issues, this is an excellent price for the he6se. For anyone who doesn't entirely match the conditions listed above, I recommend you look elsewhere.
These will require an amp
You need a powerful amp as this headphone is harder to drive.
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Many amps make the HifiMan HE6se V2 sound like garbage. Most of you without amplifiers would be better off getting a Sennheiser HD560s or HiFiMan Sundara if you are going to play them directly from your computer or phone.
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HifiMan HE6se V2 can sound pretty good from $400 Schiit Jotunheim 2 amp and even better with $600 Rebel Audio RebelAmp. The Singxer SA-1 won't pair as well and I haven't heard any other sub $600 amp that can drive these to good sound except for the Schiit Jotunheim 2.
The following post is only my personal opinion based off of the measurements I've viewed, a variety of reviews, and large amounts of lurking in audio forums and review sites; I consider myself fairly well informed but I am not an expert.
As fantastic of a discount as this is, I would greatly recommend the vast majority of people to avoid these headphones for serveral reasons:
First, since I know people wander onto these headphone deals not realizing these are audiophile cans for critical listening, here's some basic information: these headphones are wired only (no bluetooth or wireless connections of any kind), have no form of active noise cancelling, have extremely poor sound isolation (you can hear whats going on around you, and everyone around you can hear what you're listening too), and are extremely heavy and bulky. They are designed to be used at home with a dedicated audio setup.
Next, a very powerful headphone amplifier is 100% necessary to get even semi-decent sound out of these cans. Hifiman recommends an absolute minimum of 2 watts into 50 ohms, and many people who own these headphones recommend up to 5 watts into 50 ohms, which is an absolutely ludicrous amount of power. If you don't already have a very powerful desktop dac-amp setup, don't even think about buying these.
Another issue is that Hifiman is infamous for exceptionally poor quality control and build quality. It's pretty much accepted as a fact that if you buy a Hifiman headphone you're quite likely to be looking for a replacement in a couple years unless you get rather lucky, and that's assuming you get one that's good to begin with. This also applies just as much to their high end cans such as the He6se, if you want some examples try reading the forum thread for the he6se review on audiosciencereview. A recent example there is a guy who received three bad pairs from them in a row before they just refunded him rather than send him a fourth, and he specifically asked them to test the headphones before sending them to make sure they had no issues after he had problems with the initial ones.
Yet another reason to avoid these headphones is the value proposition: while several years ago this would have been a pretty good deal even considering the above mentioned points, there are much better value headphones nowadays, even from hifiman themselves. If you're looking for super high end sound in a similar price range the hifiman edition xs are arguably just better than the he6se, require far less power to drive, and also go on sale for ~$450 or less. Build quality and quality control are crap on the edition xs as well, but that's just par for the course with hifiman. The hifiamn sundara are somewhat worse than the he6se in most respects but are far easier to drive, and go on sale for ~$250 making them far more palatable to replace when they inevitably develop issues as hifiamn cans are wont to do. I could go on recommending other headphones, but I'll only list those two hifiman models to avoid getting too far off track.
Overall, if you already have an amp capable of driving the he6se, prefer it's tuning and sound signature over other headphones in it's price range, and don't mind hifimans quality control issues, this is an excellent price for the he6se. For anyone who doesn't entirely match the conditions listed above, I recommend you look elsewhere.
You forgot comfort. 😎
I heard these are very uncomfortable, especially for long sessions.
I used to own the HE6SE v2. I do think they are great, but the previous poster listed out the cons pretty well.
I upgraded to the Hifiman Edition XS, and IMO the XS is superior in almost every way for only $100 more.
I'm looking specifically more detail/resolution. Will this give me the "I'm hearing sounds I've never heard before" that I heard when I upgraded from Senn HD600 to the Focal Elegia's (with eq)?
Which headphone will offer more detail? Is the Arya's worth it?
Many amps make the HifiMan HE6se V2 sound like garbage. Most of you without amplifiers would be better off getting a Sennheiser HD560s or HiFiMan Sundara if you are going to play them directly from your computer or phone.
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HifiMan HE6se V2 can sound pretty good from $400 Schiit Jotunheim 2 amp and even better with $600 Rebel Audio RebelAmp. The Singxer SA-1 won't pair as well and I haven't heard any other sub $600 amp that can drive these to good sound except for the Schiit Jotunheim 2.
I would be careful with these... They are not built the same as the older ones and the planar membrain can flex with the change of pressure when you put the headphones on and stick to the magnets redering them sounding really peaky with a lack of bass.
I have gone through 3 of these with Adorama / Hifiman and eventually I gave up. When they work they sound amazing, I just wanted to give a heads up to those who arent fully aware of the issues they have.
"Upgraded", I would disagree with that assessment. This is a great deal on these headphones. As good or better than any other headphone under $1k in terms of sound quality if you have the amp to power it, imo. Build quality is meh and headband sucks though.
But have you owned both and A/Bed them? I ran 8W to them so power isn't an issue.
If so, I'm wondering what you think is better about the V2? The FR on the XS has less peaks/dips, better resolution, noticably better soundstage, and runs much better on a standard amp. The only thing the V2 has over it is the bass impact when you feed it tons of power.
It's also a 10 yr old tech redesign vs something released last year.
I have a pair of the very basic intro-level Hifiman magnetic planars. I also have a paid of mid-level Stax electrostatic headphones. I more often plug my Hifiman headphones into my phone and it is just fine. Unless you need considerable volume, my Samsung phone can push the sound enough, and the benefit is you don't need to be tied to an amplifier. I never use my Stax at this point
Thank you so much for so much info. You answered all the questions i would probably ask about this headphone. Still, I was wondering since i have the Sundaras and you mentioned the iFi Zen DAC/Can combo. I owned the Zen DAC with balance cable, and although it sounds way better, I still think it should sound a bit better. If i get the ifi Zen can , Will it sound better? I have the Philips Fidelio x2hr headphones and they sound amazing with the DAC. I know they are not neutral like the Sundaras but still Wish the Sundaras blow would them away. Thanks
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The following post is only my personal opinion based off of the measurements I've viewed, a variety of reviews, and large amounts of lurking in audio forums and review sites; I consider myself fairly well informed but I am not an expert.
As fantastic of a discount as this is, I would greatly recommend the vast majority of people to avoid these headphones for serveral reasons:
First, since I know people wander onto these headphone deals not realizing these are audiophile cans for critical listening, here's some basic information: these headphones are wired only (no bluetooth or wireless connections of any kind), have no form of active noise cancelling, have extremely poor sound isolation (you can hear whats going on around you, and everyone around you can hear what you're listening too), and are extremely heavy and bulky. They are designed to be used at home with a dedicated audio setup.
Next, a very powerful headphone amplifier is 100% necessary to get even semi-decent sound out of these cans. Hifiman recommends an absolute minimum of 2 watts into 50 ohms, and many people who own these headphones recommend up to 5 watts into 50 ohms, which is an absolutely ludicrous amount of power. If you don't already have a very powerful desktop dac-amp setup, don't even think about buying these.
Another issue is that Hifiman is infamous for exceptionally poor quality control and build quality. It's pretty much accepted as a fact that if you buy a Hifiman headphone you're quite likely to be looking for a replacement in a couple years unless you get rather lucky, and that's assuming you get one that's good to begin with. This also applies just as much to their high end cans such as the He6se, if you want some examples try reading the forum thread for the he6se review on audiosciencereview. A recent example there is a guy who received three bad pairs from them in a row before they just refunded him rather than send him a fourth, and he specifically asked them to test the headphones before sending them to make sure they had no issues after he had problems with the initial ones.
Yet another reason to avoid these headphones is the value proposition: while several years ago this would have been a pretty good deal even considering the above mentioned points, there are much better value headphones nowadays, even from hifiman themselves. If you're looking for super high end sound in a similar price range the hifiman edition xs are arguably just better than the he6se, require far less power to drive, and also go on sale for ~$450 or less. Build quality and quality control are crap on the edition xs as well, but that's just par for the course with hifiman. The hifiamn sundara are somewhat worse than the he6se in most respects but are far easier to drive, and go on sale for ~$250 making them far more palatable to replace when they inevitably develop issues as hifiamn cans are wont to do. I could go on recommending other headphones, but I'll only list those two hifiman models to avoid getting too far off track.
Overall, if you already have an amp capable of driving the he6se, prefer it's tuning and sound signature over other headphones in it's price range, and don't mind hifimans quality control issues, this is an excellent price for the he6se. For anyone who doesn't entirely match the conditions listed above, I recommend you look elsewhere.
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As fantastic of a discount as this is, I would greatly recommend the vast majority of people to avoid these headphones for serveral reasons:
First, since I know people wander onto these headphone deals not realizing these are audiophile cans for critical listening, here's some basic information: these headphones are wired only (no bluetooth or wireless connections of any kind), have no form of active noise cancelling, have extremely poor sound isolation (you can hear whats going on around you, and everyone around you can hear what you're listening too), and are extremely heavy and bulky. They are designed to be used at home with a dedicated audio setup.
Next, a very powerful headphone amplifier is 100% necessary to get even semi-decent sound out of these cans. Hifiman recommends an absolute minimum of 2 watts into 50 ohms, and many people who own these headphones recommend up to 5 watts into 50 ohms, which is an absolutely ludicrous amount of power. If you don't already have a very powerful desktop dac-amp setup, don't even think about buying these.
Another issue is that Hifiman is infamous for exceptionally poor quality control and build quality. It's pretty much accepted as a fact that if you buy a Hifiman headphone you're quite likely to be looking for a replacement in a couple years unless you get rather lucky, and that's assuming you get one that's good to begin with. This also applies just as much to their high end cans such as the He6se, if you want some examples try reading the forum thread for the he6se review on audiosciencereview. A recent example there is a guy who received three bad pairs from them in a row before they just refunded him rather than send him a fourth, and he specifically asked them to test the headphones before sending them to make sure they had no issues after he had problems with the initial ones.
Yet another reason to avoid these headphones is the value proposition: while several years ago this would have been a pretty good deal even considering the above mentioned points, there are much better value headphones nowadays, even from hifiman themselves. If you're looking for super high end sound in a similar price range the hifiman edition xs are arguably just better than the he6se, require far less power to drive, and also go on sale for ~$450 or less. Build quality and quality control are crap on the edition xs as well, but that's just par for the course with hifiman. The hifiamn sundara are somewhat worse than the he6se in most respects but are far easier to drive, and go on sale for ~$250 making them far more palatable to replace when they inevitably develop issues as hifiamn cans are wont to do. I could go on recommending other headphones, but I'll only list those two hifiman models to avoid getting too far off track.
Overall, if you already have an amp capable of driving the he6se, prefer it's tuning and sound signature over other headphones in it's price range, and don't mind hifimans quality control issues, this is an excellent price for the he6se. For anyone who doesn't entirely match the conditions listed above, I recommend you look elsewhere.
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I don't know if I'm brave enough to play the HiFiMan QC lottery again.
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HifiMan HE6se V2 can sound pretty good from $400 Schiit Jotunheim 2 amp and even better with $600 Rebel Audio RebelAmp. The Singxer SA-1 won't pair as well and I haven't heard any other sub $600 amp that can drive these to good sound except for the Schiit Jotunheim 2.
As fantastic of a discount as this is, I would greatly recommend the vast majority of people to avoid these headphones for serveral reasons:
First, since I know people wander onto these headphone deals not realizing these are audiophile cans for critical listening, here's some basic information: these headphones are wired only (no bluetooth or wireless connections of any kind), have no form of active noise cancelling, have extremely poor sound isolation (you can hear whats going on around you, and everyone around you can hear what you're listening too), and are extremely heavy and bulky. They are designed to be used at home with a dedicated audio setup.
Next, a very powerful headphone amplifier is 100% necessary to get even semi-decent sound out of these cans. Hifiman recommends an absolute minimum of 2 watts into 50 ohms, and many people who own these headphones recommend up to 5 watts into 50 ohms, which is an absolutely ludicrous amount of power. If you don't already have a very powerful desktop dac-amp setup, don't even think about buying these.
Another issue is that Hifiman is infamous for exceptionally poor quality control and build quality. It's pretty much accepted as a fact that if you buy a Hifiman headphone you're quite likely to be looking for a replacement in a couple years unless you get rather lucky, and that's assuming you get one that's good to begin with. This also applies just as much to their high end cans such as the He6se, if you want some examples try reading the forum thread for the he6se review on audiosciencereview. A recent example there is a guy who received three bad pairs from them in a row before they just refunded him rather than send him a fourth, and he specifically asked them to test the headphones before sending them to make sure they had no issues after he had problems with the initial ones.
Yet another reason to avoid these headphones is the value proposition: while several years ago this would have been a pretty good deal even considering the above mentioned points, there are much better value headphones nowadays, even from hifiman themselves. If you're looking for super high end sound in a similar price range the hifiman edition xs are arguably just better than the he6se, require far less power to drive, and also go on sale for ~$450 or less. Build quality and quality control are crap on the edition xs as well, but that's just par for the course with hifiman. The hifiamn sundara are somewhat worse than the he6se in most respects but are far easier to drive, and go on sale for ~$250 making them far more palatable to replace when they inevitably develop issues as hifiamn cans are wont to do. I could go on recommending other headphones, but I'll only list those two hifiman models to avoid getting too far off track.
Overall, if you already have an amp capable of driving the he6se, prefer it's tuning and sound signature over other headphones in it's price range, and don't mind hifimans quality control issues, this is an excellent price for the he6se. For anyone who doesn't entirely match the conditions listed above, I recommend you look elsewhere.
You forgot comfort. 😎
I heard these are very uncomfortable, especially for long sessions.
I upgraded to the Hifiman Edition XS, and IMO the XS is superior in almost every way for only $100 more.
Which headphone will offer more detail? Is the Arya's worth it?
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HifiMan HE6se V2 can sound pretty good from $400 Schiit Jotunheim 2 amp and even better with $600 Rebel Audio RebelAmp. The Singxer SA-1 won't pair as well and I haven't heard any other sub $600 amp that can drive these to good sound except for the Schiit Jotunheim 2.
What about the a90 pro
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I have gone through 3 of these with Adorama / Hifiman and eventually I gave up. When they work they sound amazing, I just wanted to give a heads up to those who arent fully aware of the issues they have.
If so, I'm wondering what you think is better about the V2? The FR on the XS has less peaks/dips, better resolution, noticably better soundstage, and runs much better on a standard amp. The only thing the V2 has over it is the bass impact when you feed it tons of power.
It's also a 10 yr old tech redesign vs something released last year.
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As fantastic of a discount as this is, I would greatly recommend the vast majority of people to avoid these headphones for serveral reasons:
First, since I know people wander onto these headphone deals not realizing these are audiophile cans for critical listening, here's some basic information: these headphones are wired only (no bluetooth or wireless connections of any kind), have no form of active noise cancelling, have extremely poor sound isolation (you can hear whats going on around you, and everyone around you can hear what you're listening too), and are extremely heavy and bulky. They are designed to be used at home with a dedicated audio setup.
Next, a very powerful headphone amplifier is 100% necessary to get even semi-decent sound out of these cans. Hifiman recommends an absolute minimum of 2 watts into 50 ohms, and many people who own these headphones recommend up to 5 watts into 50 ohms, which is an absolutely ludicrous amount of power. If you don't already have a very powerful desktop dac-amp setup, don't even think about buying these.
Another issue is that Hifiman is infamous for exceptionally poor quality control and build quality. It's pretty much accepted as a fact that if you buy a Hifiman headphone you're quite likely to be looking for a replacement in a couple years unless you get rather lucky, and that's assuming you get one that's good to begin with. This also applies just as much to their high end cans such as the He6se, if you want some examples try reading the forum thread for the he6se review on audiosciencereview. A recent example there is a guy who received three bad pairs from them in a row before they just refunded him rather than send him a fourth, and he specifically asked them to test the headphones before sending them to make sure they had no issues after he had problems with the initial ones.
Yet another reason to avoid these headphones is the value proposition: while several years ago this would have been a pretty good deal even considering the above mentioned points, there are much better value headphones nowadays, even from hifiman themselves. If you're looking for super high end sound in a similar price range the hifiman edition xs are arguably just better than the he6se, require far less power to drive, and also go on sale for ~$450 or less. Build quality and quality control are crap on the edition xs as well, but that's just par for the course with hifiman. The hifiamn sundara are somewhat worse than the he6se in most respects but are far easier to drive, and go on sale for ~$250 making them far more palatable to replace when they inevitably develop issues as hifiamn cans are wont to do. I could go on recommending other headphones, but I'll only list those two hifiman models to avoid getting too far off track.
Overall, if you already have an amp capable of driving the he6se, prefer it's tuning and sound signature over other headphones in it's price range, and don't mind hifimans quality control issues, this is an excellent price for the he6se. For anyone who doesn't entirely match the conditions listed above, I recommend you look elsewhere.