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Heat Storm 6000W Smart Garage Heater

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$152

$300

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Tools.Woot.com has Heat Storm 6000W Smart Garage Heater (HS-6000-GC) for $151.99. Shipping is free w/ Amazon Prime, otherwise shipping is $6 flat-rate.

Thanks to community member gunner249 for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Instant Heat: 3000 to 6000 watts of quiet and comfortable heat. It warms your room with adjustable 10,000 - 20,000 BTU Output.
  • Ceiling or Wall Mounted: Hardwired installation required. Ideal for garages, workshops, office spaces, etc.
  • WiFi Enabled: Connect this heater to your wifi and then control this heater from your phone anywhere!
  • Built-in Thermostat: Set your heater to the perfect temperature and it will automatically turn on and off to keep it that way.
  • Set Schedules: This is perfect for the home office, garage, or workshop. You can set a schedule for heat to turn on before you even get there! You can also repeat the schedule for specific days. Wiring not included, Electrician install recommended

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  • Reviews:
    • 4.3 out of 5 stars by 100 Amazon customers.
  • About this deal:
    • Our research indicates this offer is $117 lower (43% savings) than the next best price from a reputable merchant at the time of this post.
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Written by gunner249
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Tools.Woot.com has Heat Storm 6000W Smart Garage Heater (HS-6000-GC) for $151.99. Shipping is free w/ Amazon Prime, otherwise shipping is $6 flat-rate.

Thanks to community member gunner249 for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Instant Heat: 3000 to 6000 watts of quiet and comfortable heat. It warms your room with adjustable 10,000 - 20,000 BTU Output.
  • Ceiling or Wall Mounted: Hardwired installation required. Ideal for garages, workshops, office spaces, etc.
  • WiFi Enabled: Connect this heater to your wifi and then control this heater from your phone anywhere!
  • Built-in Thermostat: Set your heater to the perfect temperature and it will automatically turn on and off to keep it that way.
  • Set Schedules: This is perfect for the home office, garage, or workshop. You can set a schedule for heat to turn on before you even get there! You can also repeat the schedule for specific days. Wiring not included, Electrician install recommended

Editor's Notes

Written by johnny_miller | Staff
  • Reviews:
    • 4.3 out of 5 stars by 100 Amazon customers.
  • About this deal:
    • Our research indicates this offer is $117 lower (43% savings) than the next best price from a reputable merchant at the time of this post.
  • About this store:

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The cost of electricity to operate this where I live would be $1.41 per hour to run.

Running the same BTU output (20,400) on natural gas would cost $0.21 per hour.

Something to factor in if this is a long term play on your part. 7x more operating cost over nat gas.
Hard to find specs on this. If it is 6000W it would require 240V but the manual doesn't even talk about 120 or 240V, only a 10 gauge wire.

Edit: the website says it's a 240V model, so you'd need to run a 240V circuit for this.
From the manufacturer's website:

"The Heat Storm 6000-watt Wifi Unit is a great solution for any garage, workshop, basement or area where there is not much floor space. It mounts on the wall or on the ceiling and At 6000 Watts this heater will easily heat up your garage, basement or shop up to 1000 square feet. It does need to be hardwired in so you may need to hire a certified electrician to get it installed. "

Probably the same reason baseboard heaters can't use plugs? Of course you can do whatever you want at your own risk and I'm sure lots of people do.

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Quote from LLcj :
Agreed. I'm amazed at the amount of hate here. Yikes! This company's indoor floor heaters are rated very highly. I had one but it was going to be too small for my basement. In my case, I don't have a good spot to vent for a propane heater, so this is a super cheap alternative until I do something more permanent
Yep, it's what happens when someone who doesn't know what he's talking about brings up the Carnot cycle when talking about an electric heater.

Sure, there are much cheaper options fuel-wise - a pellet burning stove, a propane heater - but they have other disadvantages that don't make them suitable for use. Most might not want to bother with a vent for a stove or gas heater, and a heat pump would require significant use to warrant the cost. That's why there's a big market for heaters like these, specifically for use in utility buildings (sheds, workshops, garages) that don't have full time heating.
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Giantcrazy
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Quote from eurostylin :
The cost of electricity to operate this where I live would be $1.41 per hour to run.

Running the same BTU output (20,400) on natural gas would cost $0.21 per hour.

Something to factor in if this is a long term play on your part. 7x more operating cost over nat gas.
It's a garage heater though - does your home already have baseboard or steam radiators in the garage? Are they zoned off, or do they run constantly?

This would absolutely be pointless as a whole-home solution, but it's not meant for that. It's meant to heat spaces that traditionally do not have radiant heating supported by a boiler.
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random2000
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Quote from Giantcrazy :
Pigtail length is limited by code so you'd have to have the outlet within a foot or so.

You're really better off hardwiring it, unless for some reason you need it to be portable.
I kinda wanted to use this when needed and unplug and plug in a lvl 2 car charger when needed.
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Quote from random2000 :
I kinda wanted to use this when needed and unplug and plug in a lvl 2 car charger when needed.
It's the same restriction as the L2 EV chargers though - the corded ones are only allowed a minimal pigtail length for their NEMA 14-50 adapters. Anything longer needs to be hardwired.
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Quote from shadowx360 :
1) I'm not the guy that you responded to the first time, open your eyes.
2) bottom line is you are WRONG because you can exceed 100% efficiency by moving heat around instead of resistive heating. You're too busy thinking you know a lot just understanding how resistive heating is, when you can't even see the bigger picture of not converting from electricity to thermal energy in the first place. Go open a Physics 101 textbook and read the chapter on the Carnot cycle and go educated yourself
3) I don't care what your overall rate of return is - the point is that you made a factual error by claiming resistive heating is the most efficient. You're now trying to move the goalposts around by saying it's more wallet friendly. Just take the L and move on, you got taught something today about exceeding 100% efficiency.
A lot of typing where you once again fail to admit you were wrong - the resistance electric heater is 100% efficient in converting that energy instantly.

To double down, you added a recommendation for a heat pump - to heat an accessory structure that gets heated only occasionally, at a cost of multiple times not to mention requiring a higher skilled technician for installation and a more complicated device that's much more prone to failure and has a shorter lifespan than resistive elements.

Hehe, Carnot cycle - let's hope you're a physics major, because if you're in any field of engineering you're going to be bad at it.
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LightningDemon
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Quote from LABeav :
Not sure what I would use this for living in LA, always decent temp in my shop 😊
You'd be better off with 10ft fences, razor wire, moats with crocodile, a drawbridge, automatic targeting plasma cannons, and catapults!
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Mr. Sparkles
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Quote from Giantcrazy :
This is not true - it's not inefficient at all - it's literally the most efficient form of heat generation with 100% of the energy being converted into heat. What you meant to say is it's more expensive because comparatively electricity has been more expensive per BTU generated than other means (oil, natural gas).

That's going to depend on someone's circumstances. You don't know what people are paying these days for electricity vs. the alternatives, and given the efficiency of the electric heater for spot heating it might be less expensive to run on a temporary basis (say, 45 minutes before going into the garage to do some work for an hour or two) versus other means which might be only 30-40% efficient that would need to run for a prolonged period of time to generate the same amount of heat.
Not exactly true. A heat pump is even more efficient.
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alcie
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Quote from Giantcrazy :
Actually those Soviets and the Chinese are well known for their disdain for regulation - which typically results in more people getting hurt or killed. Regulations are written in blood - they're there because others learned the hard way.
EU don't use mandatory NRTL crap using self certification CE program instead. Their industrial death rate is below that in US...
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sjaxkingpin
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Quote from LaughinGass :
....and what code exactly would it violate?

Dryers don't come with cords either.
The NEC is full of bits that make no sense. But the long and short of it is that if there is a fire in your home, the insurance guy is going to look for any violation as a reason to not pay out.
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Quote from Buckeyefan 1 :
Have you priced 10/2 Romex at 250 feet. That's 2-3x the price of this heater. There are much better alternatives to heating a shop.
Solo stove? 🤣
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sjaxkingpin
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Quote from Mr. Sparkles :
Not exactly true. A heat pump is even more efficient.
Well, the internet loves a pedant, so.... A heat pump is no more efficient at generating heat, which is what he said. They are able to transfer heat around and in the right conditions you will achieve effective efficiency beyond 100%
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Quote from FancyWren413 :
Your cost seem to be correct. This is why a heat pump may be a better option. The payback could easily be in 2 years plus the added benefit of cooling if needed.
Plus IRA tax breaks (25C)!
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Quote from sjaxkingpin :
Well, the internet loves a pedant, so.... A heat pump is no more efficient at generating heat, which is what he said. They are able to transfer heat around and in the right conditions you will achieve effective efficiency beyond 100%
Ok, so insert the words "can be" and rest is true…
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Quote from sjaxkingpin :
The NEC is full of bits that make no sense. But the long and short of it is that if there is a fire in your home, the insurance guy is going to look for any violation as a reason to not pay out.
So what exactly is the issue here? Nema plugs go at least to 60 amps, and are code compliant. Can you quote cable length regulation?

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Solo stove? 🤣
Wood burning or pellet heats up a 40x60 with 14' ceilings in no time. 😉

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