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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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a12548Jan 13, 2023 03:00 PM
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Quote from ktlewis02 :
Strange to see the "weird billionaire defense force" in a SD thread
William Clay Ford is worth $1.4 Billion
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patrixJan 13, 2023 03:00 PM
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Quote from Cruceh :
Max your 401k. Not much you can do if you're over twice the limit like me though. Stock losses won't decrease your MAGI much as some people here claim.
Capital Losses
Capital losses on investments can be used to lower your AGI, at least to a limited extent. When you sell an investment such as a stock at a loss, you can use that loss to offset any of your investment gains. If you still have losses left over, you can apply up to $3,000 of that additional loss to lower your AGI. Any further losses can be carried forward and used in future years.
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sinergeJan 13, 2023 03:00 PM
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Quote from oceanone :
Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
Never can trust anything Elon says.
Jan 13, 2023 03:01 PM
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YourMotherShouldKnowJan 13, 2023 03:01 PM
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Quote from ktlewis02 :
Strange to see the "weird billionaire defense force" in a SD thread
Figured this thread would be entertaining and boy has it. Somehow worse than the XBox and PS fanboys on the video game threads. They're rich people and products, folks. They're not going to have sex with you b/c you defend them on a message board.
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aifanJan 13, 2023 03:01 PM
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Quote from Golbez01 :
I'm kinda curious if anybody that qualifies for the tax credit might sell theirs, maybe for more than they paid?
Credits for New Clean Vehicles Purchased in 2023 or After
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
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To qualify, you must:

Buy it for your own use, not for resale
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GregG4996Jan 13, 2023 03:01 PM
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Quote from EfficientWalrus7040 :
Donating to charity is a write off. That reduces your taxable income. A tax credit is a dollar for dollar credit against your tax bill. If you owed $10,000 you'd now owe $2,500. If you owed $500 you'd be getting a rebate of $7,000.
You don't get a rebate. This is a use it or lose it. If you don't have 7500 in tax liability, then you only get as much as you have in tax liability. The rest is lost
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RayfireJan 13, 2023 03:01 PM
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Quote from hn2605 :
Thanks, I'm confirming it with my tax advisor today. Lets see..
Let me know how it goes.

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Buckeyefan 1Jan 13, 2023 03:02 PM
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Quote from maccve :
I just paid cash for a 2016 Ford F250 Superduty Powerstroke Diesel...factoring in my trade-in, the vehicle was probably sold to me for about $36,000. No car payments, just have to buy a ton of Diesel fuel to put in it! If I would have traded in my previous vehicle for one of these, I would probably end up with a car loan for $19,000 +/- with taxes included. My credit union's current rate is 5.75% for 60 months giving me a car payment for the next 5 years of $365/ month to own a Tesla. I can buy a lot of diesel for that... I am happy with my ginormous truck!
Diesel is almost $6 a gallon. If you fill up once a week with a 25 gallon tank, you're spending $600 a month on diesel. So you're already upside down vs a $365 car payment. And you're still plugging in your truck overnight.
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unicowmilker1Jan 13, 2023 03:02 PM
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Gotta love how government has to push their version of capitalism 🇨🇳
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SociableWeather980Jan 13, 2023 03:03 PM
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Stop supporting them and the price will drop down further.
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ddivesJan 13, 2023 03:03 PM
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Quote from ShrewdDeer8560 :
Why would anyone purchase a car from a company that forces you to sign an NDA before they'll take care of under warranty defects?

I wish I could say more...
I haven't signed an NDA for my Tesla, where have your seen this?
Jan 13, 2023 03:04 PM
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EliyanesJan 13, 2023 03:04 PM
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Quote from langdatayagi :
I am sure you will make 10k back in toilet paper savings 😜. Btw I am a fan of your TP calculator and miss your deals and analysis on them!
I am also a fan!
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CrucehJan 13, 2023 03:05 PM
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Quote from patrix :
Capital Losses
Capital losses on investments can be used to lower your AGI, at least to a limited extent. When you sell an investment such as a stock at a loss, you can use that loss to offset any of your investment gains. If you still have losses left over, you can apply up to $3,000 of that additional loss to lower your AGI. Any further losses can be carried forward and used in future years.
I said it won't decrease it as much. I know the 3k limit and it is almost nothing compared to the income limit. It also can't offer your w2 income, only gains.
Jan 13, 2023 03:05 PM
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MellowPocket6047Jan 13, 2023 03:05 PM
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Tesla lines are busy with folks who bought recently … keep trying to get credit for price drop

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Mr0ffic3rJan 13, 2023 03:05 PM
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Quote from sinerge :
May have been interested if it was a legit SUV, but it's a bulbous ugly sedan/crossover. Keep in mind the gas savings is offset by higher cost of insurance, and EVs tend to depreciate more than ICE. I'm going to wait for soild state batteries, before jumping in, and when EVs start offering more more passenger and cargo capacity. You may want to hold out for the Kia EV9. That's going to blow the Y out the water.

LOL - WTF? So much wrong here. Styling is subjective.

Have you physically seen, with your own eyes, how much storage/cargo-room a Model Y has?
Where have you been last 2 years? Mach E - EV6 - Tesla - Bolt - ID4 - show me proof they depreciated more than ICE? If anything, in the past 2 years, they actually APPRECIATED as in when you drove them off the lot you could make a few bucks immediately selling to people that didn't want to wait.

You can always wait for 'newer tech' and never actually buy anything - there will always be 'newer tech.'

After the EV9, hold out for the EV11, or the EV69 - da heck kind of logic is this.
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