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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 19, 2023 09:35 PM
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mofofofoJan 19, 2023 09:35 PM
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Yeah, that is ridiculous how those features were just removed. My 2018 Model 3 has these features, so it would be a downgrade to go to a 2023.

Quote from MurraytheDemonSkull :
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tes...111.0.html

"Tesla recently removed the ultrasonic parking sensors from its new car batches. Tesla vehicles that are not equipped with USS are delivered with some features temporarily limited or inactive, including:

Park Assist: alerts you of surrounding objects when the vehicle is traveling <5 mph.
Autopark: automatically maneuvers into parallel or perpendicular parking spaces.
Summon: manually moves your vehicle forward or in reverse via the Tesla app.
Smart Summon: navigates your vehicle to your location or location of your choice via the Tesla app.

In the near future, once these features achieve performance parity to today's vehicles, they will be restored via a series of over-the-air software updates."
Jan 19, 2023 09:35 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 19, 2023 09:35 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Wait, I am also from NC and I chose all the defaults from custom order. How can you tell which factory based on the VIN?
scroll back a few pages and you'll see people talk about how to identify tesla vin
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Jan 19, 2023 09:38 PM
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ReboundJan 19, 2023 09:38 PM
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Quote from SamS :
Next time try the Model 3 Performance. The standard Y is equivalent sportiness to a base-mode X3 (i.e. barely sporty).

As a former BMW E92 M3 and F80 M3 owner, the Model 3 Performance is a more fun car to drive than what was previously considered some of the best mid-sized performance cars you could buy.
How is the Performance version different? Unfortunately, Tesla doesn't tell us! They think they're super-cute and clever and we're just the idiots who give them money.

I checked Motor Trend, who write that the difference is minimal and "the two versions drive remarkably similar."

All that said... I just came back from another trip, this time Hertz rented me a Model 3 at no added cost. I like these cars, they just aren't as fun as my BMW.
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Jan 19, 2023 09:40 PM
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CycloneFWJan 19, 2023 09:40 PM
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Quote from Rebound :
All that said... I just came back from another trip, this time Hertz rented me a Model 3 at no added cost. I like these cars, they just aren't as fun as my BMW.
That's what led me to this purchase. I recently rented a Model Y from Hertz for a 1,200 mile trip and I was impressed at how improved it was to my 2013 Model S.
Jan 19, 2023 09:42 PM
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sleekwalletJan 19, 2023 09:42 PM
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Quote from mofofofo :
Yeah, that is ridiculous how those features were just removed. My 2018 Model 3 has these features, so it would be a downgrade to go to a 2023.
hahah same here
Jan 19, 2023 09:48 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 19, 2023 09:48 PM
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Quote from Rebound :
How is the Performance version different? Unfortunately, Tesla doesn't tell us! They think they're super-cute and clever and we're just the idiots who give them money.

I checked Motor Trend, who write that the difference is minimal and "the two versions drive remarkably similar."

All that said... I just came back from another trip, this time Hertz rented me a Model 3 at no added cost. I like these cars, they just aren't as fun as my BMW.
lol.. did u bother to read the specs for model 3 performance? its the fatest car for the money right now
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Jan 19, 2023 09:51 PM
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topchoJan 19, 2023 09:51 PM
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Quote from THEOHIOSTATE :
If I misread what the original comment, then that's my fault but that doesn't make what I said incorrect. Which was that "if you owe the government $10,000, you would get the full $7500 refund." I never argued about what "you are owed" Not sure why you can't get that through your thick skull.
Maybe it was because you misread it and calling that out as "incorrect" was incorrect.

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Jan 19, 2023 09:51 PM
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ggaproprosJan 19, 2023 09:51 PM
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Quote from Rebound :
How is the Performance version different? Unfortunately, Tesla doesn't tell us! They think they're super-cute and clever and we're just the idiots who give them money.

I checked Motor Trend, who write that the difference is minimal and "the two versions drive remarkably similar."

All that said... I just came back from another trip, this time Hertz rented me a Model 3 at no added cost. I like these cars, they just aren't as fun as my BMW.
Tesla doesnt have the best marketing department for performance, if youre a nerd easy enough to find stuff though. Frankly these cars are far too fast for the average driver, and at $46,500 a bunch of people are going to total these things. Ive driven one, they can light up all 4 tires easily in a way that an M vehicle can only dream of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Fb6ToAg6k
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Jan 19, 2023 09:52 PM
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rkingjJan 19, 2023 09:52 PM
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Just hear from my friend, the quality of Model 3/Y from CA and TX is worse than Shanghai or Berlin Gigafactory.............
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Jan 19, 2023 09:53 PM
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Jan 19, 2023 09:53 PM
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Quote from Rebound :
How is the Performance version different? Unfortunately, Tesla doesn't tell us! They think they're super-cute and clever and we're just the idiots who give them money.

I checked Motor Trend, who write that the difference is minimal and "the two versions drive remarkably similar."

All that said... I just came back from another trip, this time Hertz rented me a Model 3 at no added cost. I like these cars, they just aren't as fun as my BMW.
320i vibes.
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Jan 19, 2023 09:54 PM
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ggaproprosJan 19, 2023 09:54 PM
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Quote from rkingj :
Just hear from my friend, the quality of Model 3/Y from CA and TX is worse than Shanghai or Berlin Gigafactory.............
Americans made products are pretty bad cuz american works are lazy/uneducated, no surprise there. Why do you think gm/ford moved everything to mexico lol
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Jan 19, 2023 09:59 PM
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rkingjJan 19, 2023 09:59 PM
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That's why I only buy a Japanese car which is made in Japan. LMAO

I have 2016 Lexus GX460 for 7 years with 100000 miles, so far 0 issue! Amazing!
Quote from ggapropros :
Americans made products are pretty bad cuz american works are lazy/uneducated, no surprise there. Why do you think gm/ford moved everything to mexico lol
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Jan 19, 2023 10:11 PM
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rkingjJan 19, 2023 10:11 PM
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Tesla Fremont Factory, CA, US
Gigafactory 1 (officially named Giga Nevada) in Storey County, Nevada, U.S.
Gigafactory 2 (officially named Giga New York), in Buffalo, New York, U.S. (produce solar panels and solar cells)
Gigafactory 3 (officially named Giga Shanghai), in Pudong, Shanghai, China
Gigafactory 4 (officially named Giga Berlin), in Grünheide, state of Brandenburg (near Berlin), Germany
Gigafactory 5 (officially named Giga Texas), in Austin, Texas, U.S.
Gigafactory 6 (planned), in Santa Catarina, Nuevo León, México
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Jan 19, 2023 10:39 PM
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dealhunt_101Jan 19, 2023 10:39 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Wait, I am also from NC and I chose all the defaults from custom order. How can you tell which factory based on the VIN?
Try googling it. You'll find it faster than the time it took you to write that post.
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Jan 19, 2023 10:39 PM
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sussigJan 19, 2023 10:39 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Wait, I am also from NC and I chose all the defaults from custom order. How can you tell which factory based on the VIN?
count 11th letter from left of VIN. F for fremont, A for austin
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