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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 28, 2023 01:03 AM
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dilbert007Jan 28, 2023 01:03 AM
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Quote from MurraytheDemonSkull :
what's your point? Every year car manufacturers release newer models. It depends on whether you need a car this year or not.
When hardware and built quality are questionable, software gimmicks are lipstick on matchbox
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Jan 28, 2023 01:40 AM
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M0707Jan 28, 2023 01:40 AM
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Got Vin assigned today at 5pm EST for 01/13 registration(TMYL Red with Black interior) expected delivery Feb 9 - Feb 17
Jan 28, 2023 01:50 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 28, 2023 01:50 AM
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Quote from dilbert007 :
You are missing the point dude if the comparison between MY is corollas. you won't be spending 36k 😂 I hope everyone who got caught I this euphoria come out happy on the other end. Imagine not getting 7500 loosing on trade in and getting a clearance model...for 60k 😅 Yikes
i don't think you're getting the point.. thread crappers come in here to nitpick anything related to tesla because they're upset their auto don't qualify for $7500. so they come up with any reason just to bash.. like no radar sensor blah blah.. anyways.. they keep preaching about their civic/corolla/72k porsche.. last i recall majority of honda/toyotas dont even come with those parking sensors

and people have been driving cars for more than 100 years without parking sensors.. if u need one to be able to park.. should do an re-assestment of your driving skills
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Jan 28, 2023 01:59 AM
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Jan 28, 2023 01:59 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 01:59 AM
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Quote from ggapropros :
only in some states...
Well if I register it in "no tax state" then my state has lovely laws that say I must register it here within 60 days AND then when you register it they will ask how much tax you paid AND when you say 0 they will say pay us 7%. Almost like they thought of everything.
Jan 28, 2023 02:02 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:02 AM
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Quote from mysql :
Seeing how the model 3 rollout went, I do not want to buy the first 6 months of CT supply. Especially when its a new cell, new body design, new vehicle in just about every way.

With model 3, we had a few changes, like softer springs, much more padding in front and rear seats, and minor misc stuff. Actually, since the motors and electrics are tried and true, maybe it won't be as bad as the 3. Still, I'd rather not be a beta tester even though I really want to get the truck.
Agree. That's why I'm biting now. In 3/4 years a HW4/5 with FSD sounds like a plan.
Jan 28, 2023 02:06 AM
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turns2stoneJan 28, 2023 02:06 AM
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Quote from mysql :
Seeing how the model 3 rollout went, I do not want to buy the first 6 months of CT supply. Especially when its a new cell, new body design, new vehicle in just about every way.

With model 3, we had a few changes, like softer springs, much more padding in front and rear seats, and minor misc stuff. Actually, since the motors and electrics are tried and true, maybe it won't be as bad as the 3. Still, I'd rather not be a beta tester even though I really want to get the truck.
Per Elon directly, you should buy a new-gen Tesla either right at the beginning (best QC) or after it's already in stable/wide-scale production (all bugs worked out).

If you buy it during a heavy ramp-up period, there's bound to be issues.

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Jan 28, 2023 02:07 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:07 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
USS has already been removed from all new Model S/X since first week of Jan '23.
I didn't know this. I had read "next year" so I assumed 2024 for those vehicles. Further solidifies their position on them and removes my concern that my MYLR won't have them.
Jan 28, 2023 02:10 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:10 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
That's the correct abbreviation, but in this context, MYAWD is used to distinguish the non-Long Range AWD models produced in Austin, using the 4680 cell batteries, with a 269mi range.

You can only get those in 'available inventory', not via custom order.
Have you seen any reviews of the MYAWD? Biggest concern for me buying this MYLR. I just wonder about their cameras...
Jan 28, 2023 02:12 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:12 AM
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Quote from toromac :
2023 Model Y and Model 3 have no radar and no ultrasonic sensors! Buyer beware! It was a cost cutting measure which they are largely rectifying with hardware suite 4, coming out in a few months. The current heavily discounted Teslas are discounted for a reason. You don't even have parking system sensor feedback. So sure buy a new Tesla but don't cry later when your car is half as good as the new one and has curb rash because you can't park a car without parking sensor feedback
HW4 will not have USS support. HW4 will first be debuted on the CT.
Jan 28, 2023 02:13 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:13 AM
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Quote from SleepingDragon :
Ordered mine MYLR white, no add-ons on Jan 13 and it delivered on Jan 27 (today). Original estimated delivery date was Jan 25 to Feb 22.
Fremont? Matrix headlights? Ryzen computer?
Jan 28, 2023 02:21 AM
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WiseLinen152Jan 28, 2023 02:21 AM
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Guys need some help, TOWER FCU loan, is this only eligible for perm resident or citizen?

I am on work visa. It doesn't give me an option to choose immigrant.

Please help
Jan 28, 2023 02:24 AM
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pisceanJan 28, 2023 02:24 AM
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Quote from WiseLinen152 :
Guys need some help, TOWER FCU loan, is this only eligible for perm resident or citizen?

I am on work visa. It doesn't give me an option to choose immigrant.

Please help
You are a resident for tax purposes. Did they ask for any immigration docs ? Usually they don't may be others can tell what docs they provided ?
Jan 28, 2023 02:25 AM
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IMAFriendJan 28, 2023 02:25 AM
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Quote from runtohell121 :
I normally would sell privately for a low value car; but at roughly $25K-$30K, I much rather have the dealers handle it and give me a check or use it as a trade in value.

Caravan offered roughly $27K; Vroom was $22K. Haven't checked others yet. Waiting to see what Tesla might offer. Carnax is an hour drive.
What do you recommend if selling a 2019 Tesla with FSD?
Seems like most of these sites don't factor in that FSD.
I know (at the moment) that FSD is fairly useless, but it's not worthless. It's a $15k add-on, even if I only get 50% of that value. Seems like these car buying sites don't even acknowledge it.

Thoughts for that?

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Jan 28, 2023 02:26 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:26 AM
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Quote from toromac :
That is not a forward thinking company. Making it harder and not easier to park your car is not forward thinking. If this is your definition of forward thinking, I hope you don't manage a business. There are plenty of people out there that have trouble parking and it is to the benefit of a company trying to make money to appeal to every customer out there. I offered to buy my wife a Tesla but she refused bc of the parking system after she drove mine - and mine even has the ultrasonic sensors. Vision only will not provide an adequate parking solution ever for people like my wife. Id just be guessing but at least 30% of car buyers want this feature and to them its a dealbreaker. Maybe not to you or me, but its naive to say otherwise. And to be fair she is currently spoiled bc her car has 360 parking cam system plus sensors. It sounds like you've never driven a car like that. I guess if you dont know what you're missing you just dont know
Well I'll soon find out. Moving from honda sense (radar and uss) and downgrading to telsa. Friends say its not a big deal. I think it is foolish to not include all technologies but it appears its not be valuable to their detection systems as MS & MX have also removed it. I considered canceling my order due to this and the increased insurance rates. But I'm going ahead with it for now. I do think you are very incorrect that HW4 will be out this year. HW3 Ryzen is still very new. Regardless even in the Q4 presser a few days ago Elon quoted research which shows HW3 is 200-300% safer than human drivers and will continue to support FSD.

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