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As of Feb 3, IRS the Treasury Department just fixed the EV tax credit's Tesla Model Y problem and the cap is $80k for ALL models now.
Ordered Date and App Time; City/State; Model; Delivery Date
01/13/2023; 7pm CST, Dallas, TX; MY, Est Jan 22nd to Feb 5th
01/13/2023; Ohio; M3, Est Mid Feb to March
01/15/2023; Oahu, Hawaii; MY; February 19 - March 26
01/14/2023; 9pm; Los Angeles, CA; MY (Blue); February 4 - March 4 (edit// now February 14 - March 21 as of 1/24/23) (edit2// February 8 - February 22 as of 1/30/23) (edit3// VIN assigned [PA066*]; February 15 - February 24 as of 2/4/23)
01/13/2023; 11:29am EDT; Boston/MA; MY White/Black wheels; January 19 - came with defect and went promptly to body shop without picking up
01/13/2023: 12pm PT, Los Angeles, CA; MY (white) no options; Jan 26 - Feb 26, then 10 days later got VIN, then three days later scheduled delivery for Feb 5.
Who Qualifies
You may qualify for a credit up to $7,500 under Internal Revenue Code Section 30D if you buy a new, qualified plug-in EV or fuel cell electric vehicle (FCV). The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 changed the rules for this credit for vehicles purchased from 2023 to 2032.
The credit is available to individuals and their businesses.
To qualify, you must:
Buy it for your own use, not for resale
Use it primarily in the U.S.
In addition, your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) may not exceed:
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers
You can use your modified AGI from the year you take delivery of the vehicle or the year before, whichever is less. If your modified AGI is below the threshold in 1 of the two years, you can claim the credit.
The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...quireme
The sale qualifies only if:
You buy the vehicle new
The seller reports required information to you at the time of sale and to the IRS.
Sellers are required to report your name and taxpayer identification number to the IRS for you to be eligible to claim the credit.
The new law requires the POS (Dealer or manufacturer) to report a bunch of information on the buyer to the IRS.
Such as:
Seller/Dealer name and taxpayer ID number
Buyer's name and taxpayer ID number
Maximum credit allowable under IRC 30D for new vehicles or IRC 25E for previously owned vehicles
Vehicle identification number (VIN), unless the vehicle is not assigned one
Battery capacity
Date of sale
Sale price
For new vehicles, verification that the buyer is the original user
CALIFORNIA
Now the Model 3 and Y do qualify for CVRP rebate up to $4,500 ($2,000 + $2,500 income eligible ) up to $7,500 after February 2023.
https://cleanvehiclereb
Summary of February 28, 2023 updates:
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In addition to the standard CVRP rebate, consumers with household income less than or equal to 400 percent of the federal poverty level are eligible for an increased rebate amount of $5,500 (previously $2,500) for BEVs and PHEVs, and $3,000 (previously $2,500) for FCEVs. This amounts to:
……….$7,500 for battery-electric vehicles (previously $4,500)
https://cleanvehiclereb
B Thank you for your email. Vehicle manufacturers must apply for Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP) eligibility with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) and meet a number of program requirements. If all program requirements are met, the vehicle is added to the list of eligible vehicles on our website. At this time, Tesla has not applied.
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Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.
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I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.
The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.
And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.
The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.
Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.
Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.
"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.
He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.
Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.
i hope this answers your question
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design
I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:
* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)
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Do I have to finish submitting my insurance info and making final payment for the app to provide exact date or slots for me to take delivery? Or it will update me on the date/location later regardless if I finish those two steps and I will be fine so long as I finish those prior to taking the delivery?
2012 BMW E92 M3 (picked up new in Munich)
2016 BMW F80 M3 (picked up new in Munich)
2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance
2023 Tesla Model 3 Performance
The BMWs went to a few track events. On the street, the Teslas feel faster, more fun. The Tesla is overall a better car in every way. I do miss the E92 M3, because it was a great handling car and I loved to rev it to 7K+. But I wouldn't want it to my daily driver vs. my current Tesla.
Basically, I see like a lot of people talking out of their butts that have never owned either car. As I owned two of each, AMA.
2004 Subaru WRX STI
RX-7 (Forget the year) bought it used, the previous owner tuned it up so much it scared me sometime
2002 IS300
2012 G37x
2016 BMW X5M
For me the Loan application approved first. Loan can not be funded without Membership. I had to upload some Docs and notarized POA. The membership took the longest from 18th to 31st. That is 9 business days it took them to even look at my membership request. My delivery is little over 2 weeks out hoping they can fund it in that time but no response from Loan people yet.
I haven't had to upload anything except for the DL back and front when submitting the application. do you get an email from them to upload additional docs ?
For me i am just going thru tesla loan for now and then refinance after with tower. My delivery is ~ 2/18 - 3/25 so if tower approves before that then i will do it straight through them but i read multiple people say they taking over a month to do anything since they got an influx of applications
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I haven't had to upload anything except for the DL back and front when submitting the application. do you get an email from them to upload additional docs ?
For me i am just going thru tesla loan for now and then refinance after with tower. My delivery is ~ 2/18 - 3/25 so if tower approves before that then i will do it straight through them but i read multiple people say they taking over a month to do anything since they got an influx of applications
They required a notarized Power of Attorney for the auto loan.
And, you'll still qualify for the $3750 credit.
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My loan application was approved first, then yesterday the membership was approved.
Hoping they can fund my loan to Tesla by the 17th at the latest but wanted to hear from others on what the funding time is once membership is approved? Do I need to hound them daily or its a quick process from here on out?
Vehicle Loan Application #
Status Approved Pending
Created Date 1/24/2023
Membership Account Application #
Status Approved
Created Date 1/18/2023
Membership approved 1/31/2023
2004 Subaru WRX STI
RX-7 (Forget the year) bought it used, the previous owner tuned it up so much it scared me sometime
2002 IS300
2012 G37x
2016 BMW X5M
1. The difference in weight distribution due to the batteries being very low. You may never realize just how much the 1000lbs+ of engine/transmission sitting relatively high up does to cornering feel.
2. The 'direct' feeling of Teslas for acceleration. Mash foot, go fast. Even the most modern of cars introduce a perceptible delay from the accelerator through the ICE, through the transmission to the wheels. There's just so much 'stuff' in the way, and when it all disappears in a EV, it's hard to go back.
The rest is more subjective. I like the minimalist interior and the frequent software updates. I don't miss the exhaust noise, it just feels obnoxious at this point. Considering my electricity plan is free on the weekends and I have 10K free Supercharging miles, my fuel cost is literally $0.00. That makes it more fun to just go take it out for 'no reason' other than to have fun/explore.
They required a notarized Power of Attorney for the auto loan.
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