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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Feb 03, 2023 06:51 PM
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caymeraFeb 03, 2023 06:51 PM
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Quote from caymera :
I guess IRS bowed to GM where they classified Cadillac as car instead of SUV. Tesla Model Y is reclassified as SUV thus $80,000 cap
Tesla however are still not doing credits right. They do not take key information for all their buyers at the time of purchase which are required by IRS thus potentially negating any credit eligibility.
Feb 03, 2023 06:53 PM
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sleekwalletFeb 03, 2023 06:53 PM
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Quote from caymera :
Tesla however are still not doing credits right. They do not take key information for all their buyers at the time of purchase which are required by IRS thus potentially negating any credit eligibility.

nah, dont spread BS

you still qualify , they always have done it this way for years
Feb 03, 2023 07:02 PM
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faingFeb 03, 2023 07:02 PM
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Quote from Roy2001 :
As of Feb 3, IRS the Treasury Department just fixed the EV tax credit's Tesla Model Y problem and the cap is $80k for ALL models now, no need to add the $4000 option to add 3rd row seats!
Thanks for the info. That's why all the expensive in stock models are gone all a sudden. People are fast......
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Feb 03, 2023 07:03 PM
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ClaytonYFeb 03, 2023 07:03 PM
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Upgraded from MYLR to MYP Smilie))
Got the VIN within 10 minutes

My TowerFCU loan has not finished processing yet, the only date for me to choose delivery is 2/6 which I have done...
Do they just leave it locked in the garage until they receive payment from the Tower? Or will they just not deliver the car until they receive payment from Tower?
Feb 03, 2023 07:07 PM
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sleekwalletFeb 03, 2023 07:07 PM
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Quote from ClaytonY :
Upgraded from MYLR to MYP Smilie))
Got the VIN within 10 minutes

My TowerFCU loan has not finished processing yet, the only date for me to choose delivery is 2/6 which I have done...
Do they just leave it locked in the garage until they receive payment from the Tower? Or will they just not deliver the car until they receive payment from Tower?

you can just take their financing and then refinance with tower. If you dont get the money on time, they will just give your vin to somebody else
Feb 03, 2023 07:10 PM
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caymeraFeb 03, 2023 07:10 PM
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Quote from sleekwallet :
nah, dont spread BS

you still qualify , they always have done it this way for years
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after

The sale qualifies only if:

You buy the vehicle new
The seller reports required information to you at the time of sale and to the IRS.
Sellers are required to report your name and taxpayer identification number to the IRS for you to be eligible to claim the credit.


No BS, pure paperwork. Check with Tesla, they dont collect any of this information nor do they report. They may have done it for years, paperwork changed starting this year.

Here's the Dealer/Manufacturer requirement:
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...quirements
Last edited by caymera February 3, 2023 at 12:12 PM.
Feb 03, 2023 07:10 PM
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KnightshadeFeb 03, 2023 07:10 PM
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Quote from caymera :
GM had Cadillac Lyriq started coming out which started all this reclassification as different government websites were not in line with IRS classification.

GM began production of the Lyriq in March 2022.

And through the end of 2022 managed to build a whole.... 122 of them. For the whole year.

The only EV GM sells in anything but embarrassingly tiny numbers is the bolt, and even then it sold less than 40k of them for the entire year, which is about how many EVs Tesla sold every 10 days.

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Feb 03, 2023 07:11 PM
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GoodOmensFeb 03, 2023 07:11 PM
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Quote from sleekwallet :
nah, dont spread BS

you still qualify , they always have done it this way for years
The new law requires the POS (Dealer or manufacturer) to report a bunch of information on the buyer to the IRS.
Such as:
  • Seller/Dealer name and taxpayer ID number
  • Buyer's name and taxpayer ID number
  • Maximum credit allowable under IRC 30D for new vehicles or IRC 25E for previously owned vehicles
  • Vehicle identification number (VIN), unless the vehicle is not assigned one
  • Battery capacity
  • Date of sale
  • Sale price
  • For new vehicles, verification that the buyer is the original user
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...quirements

They have until next year to report it so expect follow-up from Tesla to be eligible (I can't remember if I provided my social when I bought mine years back)...
Feb 03, 2023 07:12 PM
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gemini1234Feb 03, 2023 07:12 PM
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Regarding federal tax credit of $7500.
Do we need to withhold minimum tax amount owe to irs $7500 by Dec? Example...If salary is 100k and taxes is 15k, if I already paid 10k taxes via payroll then I can only get 5k credit?
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Feb 03, 2023 07:15 PM
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caymeraFeb 03, 2023 07:15 PM
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Quote from gemini1234 :
Regarding federal tax credit of $7500.
Do we need to withhold minimum tax amount owe to irs $7500 by Dec? Example...If salary is 100k and taxes is 15k, if I already paid 10k taxes via payroll then I can only get 5k credit?
IRS 1040 Line 18, if that is >$7500 you get your money.
Feb 03, 2023 07:16 PM
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caymeraFeb 03, 2023 07:16 PM
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Quote from GoodOmens :
The new law requires the POS (Dealer or manufacturer) to report a bunch of information on the buyer to the IRS.
Such as:
  • Seller/Dealer name and taxpayer ID number
  • Buyer's name and taxpayer ID number
  • Maximum credit allowable under IRC 30D for new vehicles or IRC 25E for previously owned vehicles
  • Vehicle identification number (VIN), unless the vehicle is not assigned one
  • Battery capacity
  • Date of sale
  • Sale price
  • For new vehicles, verification that the buyer is the original user
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...quirements

They have until next year to report it so expect follow-up from Tesla to be eligible (I can't remember if I provided my social when I bought mine years back)...
That is what I'm counting on them to followup.
Feb 03, 2023 07:17 PM
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sm1907Feb 03, 2023 07:17 PM
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What number do you call for reassignment of inventory to my order? I am calling local delivery number, but no response.
Feb 03, 2023 07:17 PM
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techie_reviewFeb 03, 2023 07:17 PM
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Quote from PurpleSuit3246 :
I have placed order on 1/25 now its EDD is Mar 10 - Mar 31 but I dont see any VIN.
How to check if VIN is assigned or not?
It is under the RN number in the tesla app. I ordered 01/17 and no vin yet basic White/black basic rims ATL; so i think yours will be pushed even further ... if the demand continues
Quote from ungrounded :
Same. It was there yesterday.
same cannot see if there was accelerated delivery looks like they are being sold out as expected
Feb 03, 2023 07:18 PM
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dilbert007Feb 03, 2023 07:18 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
GM began production of the Lyriq in March 2022.

And through the end of 2022 managed to build a whole.... 122 of them. For the whole year.

The only EV GM sells in anything but embarrassingly tiny numbers is the bolt, and even then it sold less than 40k of them for the entire year, which is about how many EVs Tesla sold every 10 days.
I want Lyriq to drop below 45k .GM of all the company should be ashamed to do this, after bailing out those Suckers, they turn around and embarrass us.I don't think they want to increase EV Volumes other side of the business way more profitable at the moment
Last edited by dilbert007 February 3, 2023 at 12:25 PM.

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Feb 03, 2023 07:18 PM
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8803809Feb 03, 2023 07:18 PM
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guessing the news is spreading fast, the inventory depleted in short time. I saw a lot of MYLR or MYP in Chicago area one hour ago, now it's all 269 range ones.....

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