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Fox Factory Grip2 36 160mm 27.5" 44mm Rake Mountain Bike Fork (2022)

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Universal Cycles has Fox Factory Grip2 36 160mm 27.5" 44mm Rake Mountain Bike Fork (910-20-242, 2022) on sale for $599.99. Shipping is free.

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Universal Cycles has Fox Factory Grip2 36 160mm 27.5" 44mm Rake Mountain Bike Fork (910-20-242, 2022) on sale for $599.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member racebum for finding this deal.

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  • About this deal:
    • Our research indicates that this offer is $549.01 lower (48% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $1,149
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    • Universal Cycles return policy here

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To make things clear: the Axum is not a bike for a 150-160 fork. Period.

The geo doesn't support it, period.

The more travel a fork has, the more it...travels...with HTs as the front compresses and the rear doesn't, what happens is you effectively rorate around the "fixed" pivot in the equasion as the front wheel moves, which is the rear axle: the bike "knees" its front and steepens its effective HTA in the process. This is why 150mm Hardtails, have 64 or even 63deg HTA, because their "effective" HTA when sagged will be like 65.5 and during a rock garden and whatnot, 67 or so. Axum starts with that or close to that. It is designed around a 100mm fork. It is long-ish and slacker than old-school XC bikes, but it is an XC bike. The fact that you can overfork it a bit doesn't mean that you should. And it is not because the head-tube will break or dramatic stuff like this, it is because the bike will be worse-off this way as you will ruin its balance.

Yes you can upgrade it, but upgrade it towards its intended use, don't try to force an Enduro bike out of it. Better brakes, better tires, better wheels even, will make it a fine trail bike. But this long of a fork, is a mistake.

I got the Axum to play around and sh!talk friends with more expensive bikes, but it is my n+1 (with n being 3) and I had lots of part bin stuff to work with. I don't care what ppl think when they downvote my post above - or this - , the bike is riding great and Schwinn or whomever designed the frame did a good job. Yes, the build as you get it from walmart is mediocre, but for the $, its a fine bike, and for $230 that I pad for it complete, is amazing.

And as a big picture advice, make sure enduro HTs are your thing, even if you are building off something appropriate, like a Norco Torrent HT or Kona ESD. I personally think HTs with more than 120-130mm travel are not my cup of tea...more sluggish than i care for in the easy stuff, not confidence inspiring in the rowdy stuff. Just get a FS for these, or an aggressive HT that is designed around a 130mm tops, at least for trail riding.

For the Axum per se, look for a 100-120mm fork. A 120mm Fox 34 or Marchozzi Bomber Z2 will do fine. I went with a Funn ZS headset on mine.
Great price. 29" is available with 1.5" taper and 51mm offset for the same price: https://www.universalcycles.com/s...?id=106645 (scroll to the bottom option)

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Great price. 29" is available with 1.5" taper and 51mm offset for the same price: https://www.universalcycles.com/s...?id=106645 (scroll to the bottom option)
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Anything for Schwinn Axxum
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Quote from George_P_Burdell :
Anything for Schwinn Axxum
You could definitely rock one of those on an Axxum, tapered head tube and all yo! KevCentral would def approve Smilie
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Quote from George_P_Burdell :
Anything for Schwinn Axxum
Hahaha! I love it.
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Quote from index :
Great price. 29" is available with 1.5" taper and 51mm offset for the same price: https://www.universalcycles.com/s...?id=106645 (scroll to the bottom option)
Oh, nice find. I remember a couple months ago the fit4 version was being clearanced out for 440 from Jenson. This is an even better deal imo. Plus $160 for a grip2 is absolutely worth it
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Great deal...although I'm all Rockshock!!!
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Quote from George_P_Burdell :
Anything for Schwinn Axxum
Sh!t-talking aside, I am happy with the Axum if you deal with it as frame to build up from.

Running mine SS with a Fox 34 @ 120mm actually, but I am about to try it with a ridig carbon 15x110 fork too =)

Layout is fine, the QR141 is not ideal but I still could fit a 12x148 boost wheel with QR end-caps, cable routing is super straight-forward. And it fits 2x large bottles in the front triangle, so...hard to beat with anything but a Specialized Fuse for that latter thing alone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkXWP...g5MTU1MDY=

Nothing you see is "Walmart Axum" past the frame itself, the rear axle and the chain (I love gooooold, lol), but for $230 and the ability to re-assemble and sell as a complete bike if you want, wasn't bad.
Last edited by Dimitris January 26, 2023 at 09:46 AM.
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Quote from camoeto :
You could definitely rock one of those on an Axxum, tapered head tube and all yo! KevCentral would def approve Smilie
I actually love this idea, but the schwinn axum has a 100 mm travel and 9mm qr axle right? Would you just be better off buying an entire new front wheel to go with this fork?

OR can you upgrade to the 15x110 Boost?
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Quote from upintheayers :
I actually love this idea, but the schwinn axum has a 100 mm travel and 9mm qr axle right? Would you just be better off buying an entire new front wheel to go with this fork?

OR can you upgrade to the 15x110 Boost?
Seems like it would put undue stress on the frame. Given the kind of riding someone would likely want to do with a 160, i don't think i would want to risk it personally.
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I usually treat forks and shocks like consumables - neglect them until they are unserviceable, then replace. šŸ˜† Maybe now is the time to get my next one.

šŸ‘šŸ¼ for a posting a bike deal.
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Quote from container :
Seems like it would put undue stress on the frame. Given the kind of riding someone would likely want to do with a 160, i don't think i would want to risk it personally.
And then there's the dynamically changing geometry...people shouldn't stray far from what the designers specified unless they are going for something specific and really know what they are doing.
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Quote from jeff34270 :
And then there's the dynamically changing geometry...people shouldn't stray far from what the designers specified unless they are going for something specific and really know what they are doing.
Quote from container :
Seems like it would put undue stress on the frame. Given the kind of riding someone would likely want to do with a 160, i don't think i would want to risk it personally.
Quote from Dimitris :
Sh!t-talking aside, I am happy with the Axum if you deal with it as frame to build up from.

Running mine SS with a Fox 34 @ 120mm actually, but I am about to try it with a ridig carbon 15x110 fork too =)

Layout is fine, the QR141 is not ideal but I still could fit a 12x148 boost wheel with QR end-caps, cable routing is super straight-forward. And it fits 2x large bottles in the front triangle, so...hard to beat with anything but a Specialized Fuse for that latter thing alone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkXWP...g5MTU1MDY=

Nothing you see is "Walmart Axum" past the frame itself, the rear axle and the chain (I love gooooold, lol), but for $230 and the ability to re-assemble and sell as a complete bike if you want, wasn't bad.
So many conflicting reports and I'm here wanting to pull the trigger, hahaha. I'm looking to get a solid fork that I might eventually upgrade my frame into. I don't have $1200+ to buy a new bike but I've been slowly upgrading my axum and the fork is one item id love to go ham on. (Brakes, Tires, Bars, Dropper installed)

I agree with the geometry issues though. Hmmmm.
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Quote from upintheayers :
So many conflicting reports and I'm here wanting to pull the trigger, hahaha. I'm looking to get a solid fork that I might eventually upgrade my frame into. I don't have $1200+ to buy a new bike but I've been slowly upgrading my axum and the fork is one item id love to go ham on. (Brakes, Tires, Bars, Dropper installed)

I agree with the geometry issues though. Hmmmm.
To make things clear: the Axum is not a bike for a 150-160 fork. Period.

The geo doesn't support it, period.

The more travel a fork has, the more it...travels...with HTs as the front compresses and the rear doesn't, what happens is you effectively rorate around the "fixed" pivot in the equasion as the front wheel moves, which is the rear axle: the bike "knees" its front and steepens its effective HTA in the process. This is why 150mm Hardtails, have 64 or even 63deg HTA, because their "effective" HTA when sagged will be like 65.5 and during a rock garden and whatnot, 67 or so. Axum starts with that or close to that. It is designed around a 100mm fork. It is long-ish and slacker than old-school XC bikes, but it is an XC bike. The fact that you can overfork it a bit doesn't mean that you should. And it is not because the head-tube will break or dramatic stuff like this, it is because the bike will be worse-off this way as you will ruin its balance.

Yes you can upgrade it, but upgrade it towards its intended use, don't try to force an Enduro bike out of it. Better brakes, better tires, better wheels even, will make it a fine trail bike. But this long of a fork, is a mistake.

I got the Axum to play around and sh!talk friends with more expensive bikes, but it is my n+1 (with n being 3) and I had lots of part bin stuff to work with. I don't care what ppl think when they downvote my post above - or this - , the bike is riding great and Schwinn or whomever designed the frame did a good job. Yes, the build as you get it from walmart is mediocre, but for the $, its a fine bike, and for $230 that I pad for it complete, is amazing.

And as a big picture advice, make sure enduro HTs are your thing, even if you are building off something appropriate, like a Norco Torrent HT or Kona ESD. I personally think HTs with more than 120-130mm travel are not my cup of tea...more sluggish than i care for in the easy stuff, not confidence inspiring in the rowdy stuff. Just get a FS for these, or an aggressive HT that is designed around a 130mm tops, at least for trail riding.

For the Axum per se, look for a 100-120mm fork. A 120mm Fox 34 or Marchozzi Bomber Z2 will do fine. I went with a Funn ZS headset on mine.
Last edited by Dimitris January 26, 2023 at 11:13 AM.

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