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UltraPro (Jasco) Z-Wave Smart Rocker Light Dimmer (2-Pack, 54897) $48.14 and more

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** UltraPro series is made by Jasco, the same as GE Enbrighten

UltraPro Z-Wave Smart Rocker Light Dimmer with QuickFit and SimpleWire, 3-Way Ready, Works with Alexa, Google Assistant, ZWave Hub Required, Repeater/Range Extender, White Paddle Only, 2-Pack, 54897 - $48.14 ($24.07 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MDF5MSB -Expired, now $67.99


* See also:
UltraPro Add-On Switch QuickFit and SimpleWire, In-Wall White Rocker Paddle Only, Z-Wave ZigBee Wireless Smart Lighting Controls, NOT A STANDALONE Switch, 2 Pack, 54905 - $27.97 ($13.99 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MDFDS4W
--- Details ---

- Operation Mode: ON-OFF-ON
- Current Rating: 15 Amps
- Operating Voltage: 120 Volts
- Contact Type: Normally Open
- Connector Type: Clamp

--- About this item ---

- LIGHT FLICKERING? – The 52327 Direct Lighting Bypass (ASIN: B08ZJQV7W2) is designed for Jasco, Enbrighten, UltraPro, GE-branded and Honeywell Z-Wave smart dimmers but may improve performance of other Z-Wave or Zigbee dimmers to prevent light flickering.
- Revolutionary, patent-pending design – QuickFit and SimpleWire technologies offer groundbreaking home automation features. Unique advancements make the smart controls easier to install and more reliable than ever.
- QuickFit – Improved components reduced the housing depth by up to 20% compared to previous Z-Wave models and eliminated the need for heat tabs. QuickFit enhancements are the ideal smart solution for older-style switch boxes, multi-gang configurations or any other application with limited space.
- SimpleWire – Auto-detecting line/load terminals support fast installation by identifying line and load wires and configuring the dimmer accordingly. Dual ground ports, which are offset to avoid switch box mounting screws, support daisy-chaining in multi-switch setups.
- Voice control – Enjoy the convenience of voice control with Google Assistant or Amazon Alexa when connected through a compatible Z-Wave hub.
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01-27-2023 at 09:13 AM.
01-27-2023 at 09:13 AM.
I have quite a few of these, fan ones and outlet ones too. But…I am not buying anymore z wave devices. I have over 20 right now, but it seems with Matter, z wave is being left behind. I use SmartThings, and new hubs do not offer zwave.
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01-27-2023 at 09:19 AM.
01-27-2023 at 09:19 AM.
Quote from BigPun :
I'm in the group that supports the GE / Jasco switches. I have about 30 of these in my house for nearly 15 years. The only complaint is that I cannot use LED bulbs on the dimmer switches since the LED bulbs were not mainstream at the time of buying the technology. Although where there is more than one bulk, I can replace all but one bulb with LED. Guess the old dimmers requires a resistor in the circuit to operate properly.
I've tried multiple LED brands until I found the one that worked fine with GE/Jasco switches (no buzz, no flickering, good dimming range etc.) - Brighton 60W Equiv LED Dimmable Light Bulb from Staples, but it doesn't seem they carry those anymore.
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01-27-2023 at 09:24 AM.
01-27-2023 at 09:24 AM.
Quote from famewolf :
With zwave you need a hub...with wifi you don't..
With wifi you need the Internet, with zwave you don't. [If you've managed to find a wi-fi switch that offers local control without a hub, my apologies].

I wouldn't be buying Z-Wave today where I had a choice, but not for any of the reasons mentioned in this thread.
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01-27-2023 at 09:31 AM.
01-27-2023 at 09:31 AM.
Quote from dealhunter85 :
I have quite a few of these, fan ones and outlet ones too. But…I am not buying anymore z wave devices. I have over 20 right now, but it seems with Matter, z wave is being left behind. I use SmartThings, and new hubs do not offer zwave.
LOL, I switched from SmartThings to Home Assistant about 3 years ago (after they migrated to the new platform and stopped supporting 3rd party device handlers, that half of my setup was relying on). HA is open source, has local (non-cloud) control = fast response, community-based plugins, flexibility, independent from Samsung's plans to earn big $$$. So, I am certainly not going back.
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01-27-2023 at 09:43 AM.
01-27-2023 at 09:43 AM.
Quote from publicpersona :
I wouldn't be buying Z-Wave today where I had a choice, but not for any of the reasons mentioned in this thread.
Mind to elaborate? I am just curious... I only see one cons - paying extra (included in the price) to cover z-wave licensing/patents.
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01-27-2023 at 10:04 AM.
01-27-2023 at 10:04 AM.
Quote from donftw :
Had really bad experiences with my z wave plus ge/jasco light switches. Bought a bunch from Lowes when they went on sale and slowly they've all started to die.
Yep I have had really bad experience with Z-Wave Plus Jasco switches. All of the failed after a year. All Z-Wave Jasco ones are still working fine even after 4 years. Also these are so expensive.
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01-27-2023 at 10:35 AM.
01-27-2023 at 10:35 AM.
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I have been running a bunch of GE / Jasco in my house for just under 5 yrs. I have not yet updated the FW, but the switches have been pretty stable. One did fall off my network - still works as a light switch - but it is located in spot where I dont NEED the smart functionality so I havent bothered fiddling with it. All that said, not sure price is great.
I should clarify - the one that fell off the network still works as a dimmer - i stated switch in my original response. The devices I installed are all dimmers and multiple of them are being used in a three (or four) way configuration with the extra "dumb" switch. I believe mine are a previous version - I was only speaking to my experience with GE / Jasco.
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01-27-2023 at 10:44 AM.
01-27-2023 at 10:44 AM.
Quote from psyctto :
wouldn't touch anything made by Jasco ever again... absolute 100% garbage.
just get Zooz, fully featured hardware and their hardware in the last many years has been pretty fantastic.
I agree that Jasco switches are trash, but Zooz is barely better. I have a bunch of their switches and they all have issues with 2 of them completely dying within 2 years.

Edit:
Not to have a completely useless post, the company I recommend is Inovelli. Leaps and bounds better than anything Zooz makes.
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01-27-2023 at 11:02 AM.
01-27-2023 at 11:02 AM.
But aside from all the issues with GE/Jasco, they make the best rocker dimmer switch without needing a neutral wire.
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01-27-2023 at 11:08 AM.
01-27-2023 at 11:08 AM.
Quote from VladStar :
Mind to elaborate? I am just curious... I only see one cons - paying extra (included in the price) to cover z-wave licensing/patents.

Biggest reason for me is zwave wasn't part of the matter alliance thus is not being supported on many hubs/devices in the future. It's unfortunate as I have lots of z wave devices. Even SmartThings who supported them will not be including the radio in new hubs.

I always bought zwave over zigbee and stayed away from wifi/Bluetooth. Looks like I might have picked wrong.
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01-27-2023 at 12:28 PM.
01-27-2023 at 12:28 PM.
Quote from VladStar :
Mind to elaborate? I am just curious... I only see one cons - paying extra (included in the price) to cover z-wave licensing/patents.
Probably not the place for a Z-Wave vs. Zigbee battle, but here goes.I used to be Team Z-Wave and most of my switches/dimmers are Z-Wave. But here's my thinking.
  • Z-Wave has had supply issues due to it being single source (this may be changing, though). Zigbee doesn't have that problem. It was actually a posting by Eric_Inovelli in his forum explaining why they were going to start doing Zigbee that explained this convincingly.
  • Z-Wave devices are fussy with the include/exclude processes. Zigbee devices don't have "exclude", just a pairing. And if the device already exists on the hub, no problem .. it will just rejoin it to where it was.
  • Zigbee penetrates common building materials and air better at its frequency.
  • The often cited negative with Zigbee is potential interference with wi-fi. But you can avoid that simply by choosing a channel for Zigbee to avoid your wi-fi channels.
  • Most battery devices (sensors, motion, contact, leak) are Zigbee. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em by having a strong ZigBee mesh with line-powered devices.
  • Actual experience with Zigbee has me satisfied. I put a battery ZigBee motion sensor in my mailbox 100' from the house and not only has it worked like a charm, but it is on the same battery as when I put it out there in the weather two years ago.
  • Matter is more like Zigbee than it is like ZWave.
One can make a good case that Z-Wave+ is technologically superior. But technical superiority doesn't always win out. Ask the Zilog Z-80 processor, or HD DVD, or BetaMax.
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01-27-2023 at 12:46 PM.
01-27-2023 at 12:46 PM.
Quote from psyctto :
wouldn't touch anything made by Jasco ever again... absolute 100% garbage.
just get Zooz, fully featured hardware and their hardware in the last many years has been pretty fantastic.
How long have people been using Zooz? Jasco has been around for a long time, so it might just be survior/victim bias if Jasco seems problematic at the end of a couple of years.

I've had GE/Jasco dimmers for 4 years and have not had issues.
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01-27-2023 at 12:51 PM.
01-27-2023 at 12:51 PM.
Quote from publicpersona :
[*]Zigbee penetrates common building materials and air better at its frequency.[*]The often cited negative with Zigbee is potential interference with wi-fi. But you can avoid that simply by choosing a channel for Zigbee to avoid your wi-fi channels.
[/list]One can make a good case that Z-Wave+ is technologically superior. But technical superiority doesn't always win out. Ask the Zilog Z-80 processor, or HD DVD, or BetaMax.
In the US, zigbee is 2.4GHz and z-wave is 915MHz, so Z-Wave actually has better penetration. And although you can change your wifi channel, you can't change your neighbor's wifi. Chances are unless you're out in rural areas, there are no clear channels available to you and you'll just have to put up with interference from wifi.
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01-27-2023 at 12:59 PM.
01-27-2023 at 12:59 PM.
Quote from coachclass :
In the US, zigbee is 2.4GHz and z-wave is 915MHz, so Z-Wave actually has better penetration. And although you can change your wifi channel, you can't change your neighbor's wifi. Chances are unless you're out in rural areas, there are no clear channels available to you and you'll just have to put up with interference from wifi.
I wish I could cite exactly the source here, but I listened to a long and very technical podcast talking about frequencies used for home automation and the jist of it was that it wasn't just the frequency. I'll concede that point to you, though, since I can't provide statistics other than my real world observations.

I do happen to live in a rural area. I have some neighbors with wi-fi, but nothing like you'd have in an apartment complex.
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01-27-2023 at 01:11 PM.
01-27-2023 at 01:11 PM.
Quote from dealhunter85 :
I have quite a few of these, fan ones and outlet ones too. But…I am not buying anymore z wave devices. I have over 20 right now, but it seems with Matter, z wave is being left behind. I use SmartThings, and new hubs do not offer zwave.
Matter is a good development, and I hope it gets popular. But there's no reason to stop buying z-wave or zigbee. This is less of an issue with zwave vs matter and more an issue with SmartThings not being a good platform. People who need to worry about being "left behind" are the folks using cloud based devices like SmartThings. You can't be "left behind" with zwave, it's a completely local protocol. If it works today, it'll keep working tomorrow. Unlike SmartThings.

SmartThings as a company has their own business interests that don't necessarily align with home automation users. Don't let SmartThings dictate what your home automation architecture should be. It makes more sense to chuck the SmartThings gateway and replace it something better and more local, than to start replacing individual devices.
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