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Alienware 34 Curved QD-OLED Gaming Monitor- AW3423DWF $999

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ALIENWARE 34 CURVED QD-OLED GAMING MONITOR - AW3423DWF

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Model: Alienware AW3423DWF Curved QD-OLED Gaming Monitor - 34-inch Quantum Dot OLED 0.1Ms 165Hz 21:9 Curved Display, 99.3% DCI-P3 Color Gamut, VESA DisplayHDR True Black 400, AMD FreeSync Premium Pro - Black

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Feb 9, 2023
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WTF is up with their sales on their OLED monitors? lol. Was 10% off both DW and DWF a few days ago. Then it was 15% off for just the DW, nothing for the DWF. Now it is 9% off the DWF and nothing for the DW, lol.

Edit: Something else to think about - Burn-in is a very real risk still, despite people pretending it is not:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors...ed_to_the/

Basically, you can't treat it like you would a standard monitor ~ you still need take all the standard burn-in minimization steps (hiding task bars, power off when idle / blank background screen saver, etc, etc).

I've been stewing on this for the past week or so. OLED's image quality is amazing, but as a monitor, I'm finding it hard to rationalize.

Edit 2: Went with a LG 42" C2 (open box) with a 5 year Geek Squad warranty that covers burn-in for $750 out the door.
Last edited by minnus February 10, 2023 at 05:33 PM.
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Specs:
Resolution: 3440x1440
Aspect Ratio: 21:9
Refresh Rate: 165Hz (DisplayPort) or 100Hz (HDMI)
Response Time: 0.1ms gray-to-gray
Panel Type: Quantum Dot OLED
Contrast Ratio: 1M: 1 (typical)
Adaptive-Sync Technology: AMD FreeSync Premium Pro
VESA Mountable: 100x100mm
Ports:
1 x HDMI (ver2.0)
2 x DP (ver1.4)
2 x SuperSpeed USB 5 Gbps (USB 3.2 Gen1) downstream port [Front bottom, one with BC1.2 charging capability at 2A (max)]
2 x SuperSpeed USB 5 Gbps (USB 3.2 Gen1) downstream port (rear)
1 X SuperSpeed USB 5 Gbps (USB 3.2 Gen1) upstream port (rear)
1X Audio line-out port (rear)
1 x Headphone-out port (bottom)



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Feb 9, 2023
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DivineShadow
Feb 9, 2023
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Quote from minnus :
WTF is up with their sales on their OLED monitors? lol. Was 10% off both DW and DWF a few days ago. Then it was 15% off for just the DW, nothing for the DWF. Now it is 9% off the DWF and nothing for the DW, lol.

Edit: Something else to think about - Burn-in is a very real risk still, despite people pretending it is not:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors...ed_to_the/ [reddit.com]

Basically, you can't treat it like you would a standard monitor ~ you still need take all the standard burn-in minimization steps (hiding task bars, power off when idle / blank background screen saver, etc, etc).

I've been stewing on this for the past week or so. OLED's image quality is amazing, but as a monitor, I'm finding it hard to rationalize.
I'm with you, I really want to pull the trigger, but this is still first generation tech in monitors and my worst fear is to rely on Dell honoring their burn in warranty three years from now. We just won't know about burn in in this context until these have more time in the wild. If you have been contemplating this monitor, you also know 2023 is the year of OLED gaming monitors. I will probably wait to see some next gen products due for release (supposedly Q1) unless Dell offers a greater discount on these.
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cruiserusa
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Quote from DivineShadow :
I'm with you, I really want to pull the trigger, but this is still first generation tech in monitors and my worst fear is to rely on Dell honoring their burn in warranty three years from now. We just won't know about burn in in this context until these have more time in the wild. If you have been contemplating this monitor, you also know 2023 is the year of OLED gaming monitors. I will probably wait to see some next gen products due for release (supposedly Q1) unless Dell offers a greater discount on these.
I've purchased it this week and I'll get 30% discount in gift cards from capital one shopping in March due this purchase.
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SpyCracker
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Quote from minnus :
WTF is up with their sales on their OLED monitors? lol. Was 10% off both DW and DWF a few days ago. Then it was 15% off for just the DW, nothing for the DWF. Now it is 9% off the DWF and nothing for the DW, lol.

Edit: Something else to think about - Burn-in is a very real risk still, despite people pretending it is not:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors...ed_to_the/ [reddit.com]

Basically, you can't treat it like you would a standard monitor ~ you still need take all the standard burn-in minimization steps (hiding task bars, power off when idle / blank background screen saver, etc, etc).

I've been stewing on this for the past week or so. OLED's image quality is amazing, but as a monitor, I'm finding it hard to rationalize.
That is just 1 example, there are also lot of replies and topics saying they never had burn-in and they love it. It depends , my friend have it since 4 months and he does not even play games all he does is code and work on it no burn-in and he loves it.
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Quote from SpyCracker :
That is just 1 example, there are also lot of replies and topics saying they never had burn-in and they love it. It depends , my friend have it since 4 months and he does not even play games all he does is code and work on it no burn-in and he loves it.
I think treating as "1 example" might be trivializing the problem. Here is the thing - QD-OLED panels have been out for under a year. People have been optimistic that it is far more burn-in resistant than WOLED...but Samsung just announced the second generation of QD-OLED. What was improved with the second generation? It's brighter and consumers less power, but more importantly, it reports that "Durable Quality" and "Reliability" is increased by 2x.

What are they referring to when they say "Durable Quality" and "Reliability"? Honestly, I have no idea, but similar terminology has been used by Samsung to describe burn in.

So basically, Samsung's new QD-OLED is 2x as reliable - and the panel hasn't realistically been out long enough for people to understand how resistant the first generation of QD-OLED really is. Your friend's 4 months of no burn in is peanuts compared to the standard life time of monitors.

Anyways, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of or into an OLED monitor. I assume if you're interested, you're aware of the risk of burn in. I felt the need to insert my comment because you see so many that insist that burn in is no longer an issue. The reality is that ALL OLED is vulnerable to burn in. It's just a matter of when. If that when is 10 years from now, it doesn't really matter. If that when is 1-2 years from now....well...

Do your own risk analysis. I'm still churning myself, though I am leaning towards waiting for Gen 2 QD-OLED to come out later this year.
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I ended up returning mine because I received a bad unit that had fan issues. The fan normally is supposed to run while the unit is turned on and after the unit is turned off until it fully cools off. However the fan on mine ran non-stop when the unit was turned off for over 24 hours. The fan noise is extremely noticeable when the pc is turned off so I returned it.

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Quote from minnus :
WTF is up with their sales on their OLED monitors? lol. Was 10% off both DW and DWF a few days ago. Then it was 15% off for just the DW, nothing for the DWF. Now it is 9% off the DWF and nothing for the DW, lol.

Edit: Something else to think about - Burn-in is a very real risk still, despite people pretending it is not:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors...ed_to_the/

Basically, you can't treat it like you would a standard monitor ~ you still need take all the standard burn-in minimization steps (hiding task bars, power off when idle / blank background screen saver, etc, etc).

I've been stewing on this for the past week or so. OLED's image quality is amazing, but as a monitor, I'm finding it hard to rationalize.
If you run the pixel refresher regularly it will clear up, but I agree, I have never been a fan of OLED for computer monitors. They are probably perfect if all you do is high speed gaming on your PC, but I find the Mini-LED + VA panels to be a more than adequate compromise for these issues.
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Quote from minnus :
I think treating as "1 example" might be trivializing the problem. Here is the thing - QD-OLED panels have been out for under a year. People have been optimistic that it is far more burn-in resistant than WOLED...but Samsung just announced the second generation of QD-OLED. What was improved with the second generation? It's brighter and consumers less power, but more importantly, it reports that "Durable Quality" and "Reliability" is increased by 2x.

What are they referring to when they say "Durable Quality" and "Reliability"? Honestly, I have no idea, but similar terminology has been used by Samsung to describe burn in.

So basically, Samsung's new QD-OLED is 2x as reliable - and the panel hasn't realistically been out long enough for people to understand how resistant the first generation of QD-OLED really is. Your friend's 4 months of no burn in is peanuts compared to the standard life time of monitors.

Anyways, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of or into an OLED monitor. I assume if you're interested, you're aware of the risk of burn in. I felt the need to insert my comment because you see so many that insist that burn in is no longer an issue. The reality is that ALL OLED is vulnerable to burn in. It's just a matter of when. If that when is 10 years from now, it doesn't really matter. If that when is 1-2 years from now....well...

Do your own risk analysis. I'm still churning myself, though I am leaning towards waiting for Gen 2 QD-OLED to come out later this year.
Could be talking about overall poor quality. As someone who purchased a S95B QD-OLED last year, I have already had many issues with it. In only 2 months I needed the main pcb replaced twice, panel once and full TV replacement once. There are many others I have seen reporting similar quality issues. I am sure all the Quality/Durability remarks are due to the high number of reports stemming from overall low quality of the 1st gen panels.

I have not noticed any burn it in the short time Ive owned it, but am generally not concerned at all. I have a 5 year old LG B6p OLED that still doesnt havent any burn in either.
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Quote from minnus :
I think treating as "1 example" might be trivializing the problem. Here is the thing - QD-OLED panels have been out for under a year. People have been optimistic that it is far more burn-in resistant than WOLED...but Samsung just announced the second generation of QD-OLED. What was improved with the second generation? It's brighter and consumers less power, but more importantly, it reports that "Durable Quality" and "Reliability" is increased by 2x.

What are they referring to when they say "Durable Quality" and "Reliability"? Honestly, I have no idea, but similar terminology has been used by Samsung to describe burn in.

So basically, Samsung's new QD-OLED is 2x as reliable - and the panel hasn't realistically been out long enough for people to understand how resistant the first generation of QD-OLED really is. Your friend's 4 months of no burn in is peanuts compared to the standard life time of monitors.

Anyways, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of or into an OLED monitor. I assume if you're interested, you're aware of the risk of burn in. I felt the need to insert my comment because you see so many that insist that burn in is no longer an issue. The reality is that ALL OLED is vulnerable to burn in. It's just a matter of when. If that when is 10 years from now, it doesn't really matter. If that when is 1-2 years from now....well...

Do your own risk analysis. I'm still churning myself, though I am leaning towards waiting for Gen 2 QD-OLED to come out later this year.
Agreed, but same can be said about people posting "Another case of burn-in" after 3 months of use. Most of the people are afraid because of the burn-in and nothing else. Burn in depends on usage so to each their own.
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Lg OLED 42" is cheaper and can do 21:9 if you have the desk space. Also supports gsync.
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Quote from cruiserusa :
I've purchased it this week and I'll get 30% discount in gift cards from capital one shopping in March due this purchase.
Was it easy for you to get the 30% offer? I've tried in a few different browsers on two different accounts but have had no luck
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Quote from WhosUrBuddiee :
Could be talking about overall poor quality. As someone who purchased a S95B QD-OLED last year, I have already had many issues with it. In only 2 months I needed the main pcb replaced twice, panel once and full TV replacement once. There are many others I have seen reporting similar quality issues. I am sure all the Quality/Durability remarks are due to the high number of reports stemming from overall low quality of the 1st gen panels.

I have not noticed any burn it in the short time Ive owned it, but am generally not concerned at all. I have a 5 year old LG B6p OLED that still doesnt havent any burn in either.
That is a fair point - S95B had a lot of QC issues. One of the main reasons why I held off on those recent S95B deals.

I too have an older LG OLED without any noticeable burn-in, but I also take very good care to make sure static images minimal -- but I think that is the point - despite it being a computer monitor, you still have to do all the standard OLED pampering to avoid burn-in.

Regardless, I think I've convinced myself to wait for gen 2. I'm definitely excited for more durable panels, whatever they means, lol. I think it is extraordinarily telling that they've already moved on to a second generation of panels with drastic improvements (especially to the brightness). Not only that, you also get more form factors. That curved 49" (ultra)ultrawide sounds amazing (model: G95SC). Would be extra cool if Alienware released one (I prefer their aftersale service).

Anyways, this is the last I'll say about Gen 1 vs Gen 2, burn-in reliability, etc.
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Quote from minnus :
WTF is up with their sales on their OLED monitors? lol. Was 10% off both DW and DWF a few days ago. Then it was 15% off for just the DW, nothing for the DWF. Now it is 9% off the DWF and nothing for the DW, lol.

Edit: Something else to think about - Burn-in is a very real risk still, despite people pretending it is not:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors...ed_to_the/

Basically, you can't treat it like you would a standard monitor ~ you still need take all the standard burn-in minimization steps (hiding task bars, power off when idle / blank background screen saver, etc, etc).

I've been stewing on this for the past week or so. OLED's image quality is amazing, but as a monitor, I'm finding it hard to rationalize.
thanks for the confirmation on this. I was curious but it's no go now.
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Quote from cruiserusa :
I've purchased it this week and I'll get 30% discount in gift cards from capital one shopping in March due this purchase.
Can you elaborate?

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