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Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator

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Amazon has Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

Walmart also has Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

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Product Features:
  • Operates on natural gas, propane, or gasoline, plus natural gas and propane hoses are included
  • Power up the 459 cc champion engine with the handy rocker switch, battery included
  • Track voltage, frequency, session run time, and total run time to monitor output and track maintenance intervals, plus a multi-colored LED indicates CO shutoff or fault
  • Gasoline: 10,000 starting watts and 8000 running watts, propane: 9000 starting watts and 7200 running watts, natural gas: 8750 starting watts and 7000 running watts and engine oil is included

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Amazon has Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

Walmart also has Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor johnny_miller for finding this deal.

Product Features:
  • Operates on natural gas, propane, or gasoline, plus natural gas and propane hoses are included
  • Power up the 459 cc champion engine with the handy rocker switch, battery included
  • Track voltage, frequency, session run time, and total run time to monitor output and track maintenance intervals, plus a multi-colored LED indicates CO shutoff or fault
  • Gasoline: 10,000 starting watts and 8000 running watts, propane: 9000 starting watts and 7200 running watts, natural gas: 8750 starting watts and 7000 running watts and engine oil is included

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theradiantchild
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Wow, edgy comment.
im14abeer
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No, your statement is not true. I'm pretty sure they're not going to ban natural gas anytime soon. Besides the fact that a good portion of the country heats their homes with it, the country produces somewhere around 38% of its electricity with it. My utility ran new gas lines in an 80+ year old neighborhood two years ago, pretty sure they're confident in getting a return on that investment. As for gasoline, the automobile market is turning toward electrification, this is true. What's not true is gasoline being banned. Besides the installed base of ICE cars that will last for at least two more decades; boats, snowmobiles, lawn equipment, propeller aircraft, etc., etc. all still have an installed base that require gasoline for the foreseeable future. As far as I can tell, you can't run this generator on wood and the washing machine remark is kinda outta left field. Finally, you didn't mention propane, so I will, also not going anywhere anytime soon, with its installed base of forklifts, construction equipment, rural home heat, bbq grills, portable heaters and on and on. Do continue to live scared of minor, incremental progress in the world's fuel use though.
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How is that a weakness...it's an 8000W generator, you can't get 50A from an 8000 running watts generator at 220V...basically Ohms law. You would need an 11000 running watts generator to get 50A.

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Quote from workerant :
Until government ban everything in the name of protecting you and saving the planet. Than we'll reduce to stealing wood to keep warm because government cannot police all the wood everywhere. Anyone still living is practically illegal.
Wow, edgy comment.
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How can I use 2 of the things together?
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Quote from WiseRoute2286 :
why would I need a 50-amp output? just wondering since I'm looking for a whole house generator. thanks
The main panel at your house is either a 100amp or a 200amp breaker more than likely. When you do this back feed you will either feed into a 30amp or a 50amp breaker. I guess you could feed into a 120volt receptacle on maybe a 15amp to 20amp breaker but only roughly half of you receptacles in your home would work as only one side of your breaker panel would be powered...unless you use a double pole breaker...and don't think they make a 20amp double pole but I could be wrong. If you are planning to back feed you have to be careful and turn off the main breaker panel that feeds your house. If you aren't sure what you are doing this is not a good practice.
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Quote from WiseRoute2286 :
why would I need a 50-amp output? just wondering since I'm looking for a whole house generator. thanks
If you want to run your HVAC, you'll need 50amps at least.
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WEAKNESSES:
No 50-amp output
How is that a weakness...it's an 8000W generator, you can't get 50A from an 8000 running watts generator at 220V...basically Ohms law. You would need an 11000 running watts generator to get 50A.
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Quote from WiseRoute2286 :
why would I need a 50-amp output? just wondering since I'm looking for a whole house generator. thanks
Technically, momentarily, on gasoline, you can draw just over 40 amps on this generator, and over 30 amps running. Practically, it's a convenience item since larger generators like this one are often used to power larger RVs that have 50 amp inlets. It may be a factor if you intend to run this as a whole house generator for similar reasons. I don't understand why these manufacturers would produce a product that has the running capacity to overpower its primary output.
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Just curious if anyone knows the answer, why is NG and LP always rated lower than traditional gas? If it's weaker combustion properties, wouldn't just an increase in pressure (e.g. more NG/LP pumped in) solve that? Just trying to wrap my head around it. If it's capable of higher wattage why is it limited when on NG/LP? Thanks in advance for any insight. I've always wanted to hook one up to my NG line for emergencies and have "unlimited fuel" but don't want to leave ~12+% capacity on the table.
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Quote from im14abeer :
Technically, momentarily, on gasoline, you can draw just over 40 amps on this generator, and over 30 amps running. Practically, it's a convenience item since larger generators like this one are often used to power larger RVs that have 50 amp inlets. It may be a factor if you intend to run this as a whole house generator for similar reasons. I don't understand why these manufacturers would produce a product that has the running capacity to overpower its primary output.
Great insight. I suspect you can draw the full amount using multiple outputs but your point is still a valid one. Things like HVAC compressors have a massive draw on start that can use the extra amperage. (If you do use for home though highly recommend having a starting capacitor added to your HVAC to reduce the surge power required on start. Also just better for the longevity of your compressor regardless, even if on utility power.)
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Quote from sknick :
https://generatorbible.com/genera...n/_100416/

STRENGTHS:
In the expected price range
CO Shield™ technology
Several accessories included
GFCI Outlets
Electric start
Tri-fuel
Lightweight for its kind (207 lbs)
High run time
Fuel efficient

AVERAGE SPECS:
Acceptable noise (74 dBA)

WEAKNESSES:
No 50-amp output
No remote start
From the site, and should be under "weaknesses", this high of THD will cause battery backups to click on and off. Most major appliances will be fine however. You have to go with "inverter" style generator if this stuff matters to you:

"As the 100416 has a high THD (<20%), it is not recommended to use it to power sensitive electronic devices."

Quote from edrock200 :
Just curious if anyone knows the answer, why is NG and LP always rated lower than traditional gas? If it's weaker combustion properties, wouldn't just an increase in pressure (e.g. more NG/LP pumped in) solve that? Just trying to wrap my head around it. If it's capable of higher wattage why is it limited when on NG/LP? Thanks in advance for any insight. I've always wanted to hook one up to my NG line for emergencies and have "unlimited fuel" but don't want to leave ~12+% capacity on the table.
NG/LP are "weaker" gases and you aren't going to find a tri fuel optimally tuned for every fuel. Like a swiss army knife I guess. As a heads up if you plan to run this on a small outdoor grill line with a long run from the meter you may not even have enough pressure to run it regardless so consider that too.

Quote from lionheartssj :
If you want to run your HVAC, you'll need 50amps at least.
Not entirely true. You can get soft starters (google EasyStart or Sure Start, not the same as hard start) to run just about any AC on this size generator. Also, some newer units have two stages which would probably also run fine as is. But you are right you wont run a 3+ ton 10-15 year old A/C without doing some modifications.
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Wow, edgy comment.
Wooden stove is being ban, natural gas is being ban, gasoline is being ban, and your washing machine is on the chopping block too.

This generator is using all the fuel source that is being ban right now by the government. Is my statement true?
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Quote from contactcr :
From the site, and should be under "weaknesses", this high of THD will cause battery backups to click on and off. Most major appliances will be fine however. You have to go with "inverter" style generator if this stuff matters to you:

[B]"As the 100416 has a high THD (
The soft start can be a bit expensive to install, but absolutely worth it. No more thud as your generator kicks on. No more lights flickering. And you can run a 3.5 ton unit off of a generator of this size.

Only reason industry hasn't gone to soft-start or VFD on all units is that the electronic control becomes too complicated for your typically HVAC repairman
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Quote from contactcr :
From the site, and should be under "weaknesses", this high of THD will cause battery backups to click on and off. Most major appliances will be fine however. You have to go with "inverter" style generator if this stuff matters to you:

[B]"As the 100416 has a high THD (
I thought the soft start was a starting capacitor, no? Thank you for the insight btw, very informative.
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Quote from edrock200 :
I thought the soft start was a starting capacitor, no? Thank you for the insight btw, very informative.
You are referring to a hard start which actually draws even more amps (albeit in a shorter amount of time) to get the motor going. This is a cheap hack for when you have an old motor that has trouble starting (on utility power) but not good for a generator as it will likely trip the breaker/protection on the generator.

Soft start does some magic with a control board and varying when everything comes on. It can reduce the inrush current by half which is generally enough to get you going on a portable generator. They are popular in like RV/boating community and I think certain commercial uses.

My HVAC installer had no idea what it was but I had the instructions printed out for him and they are aware of what all the connections are. Just need to mount it and connect with the proper crimps and plugs. He was skeptical but only charged me a trip charge and I have my 3 ton unit running on a 7000W running 30A generator w/ 30A inlet+interlock.
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Quote :
Quote from BuddyLove99 :
How can I use 2 of the things together?
theradiantchildWow, edgy comment.
There's no practical way to do that. Some Inverter generators can be combined, but not this one.

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