Sam's Club has for its
Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for
$5499.
Shipping is free.
Thanks to community member
tunabreath for finding this deal.
Product Details:
- Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
- Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
- 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
- Alexa Smart Home Compatible
- True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
- Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)
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Like an A/C heat pump it needs a concrete or composite concrete pad to sit on. You will likely need an electrician to connect it to your house and you may need to coordinate with your electric company for certain aspects of the installation like the auto transfer. Unless you have natural gas and get the conversion (I think a conversion is possible) you will also need a large propane tank installed (capacity of 100 to 250 gallons) by a propane company and coordinate with them for filling when needed/ahead of storms, etc. The tank is pretty big and needs to be within so many feet of the generator. These require annual maintenance that you may be able to do yourself or it's around $100 to $150 to have Generac do it. The 10 year warranty seems nice but 10 years of annual maintenance would be better. Finally these generators are big and heavy. I don't think you will be able to move it in place with a dolly.
I had a quote for purchase and install from a Generac dealer and installation was 30% or more of the quote. I never went through with it because installation seemed to be where they were gouging. The coordination with your power company should be free or minimal. Obviously electricians vary by area. I think the dealer had me coordinate with the propane company for install of the tank. I know Lowes sells Generacs. I would be interested in how much they charge for installation.
At the time generators we're on backorder for 6 months or more. Sounds like they've gotten ahead of the supply issues now.
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https://www.costco.com/honeywell-...67860.html
Late last year it was $4800 with a $500 costco card, so $4300 total costs. I dont know if these kind of generators are going to keep increasing in price, but they certainly have been cheaper in the past. It was about $5k to install, and that was all electrical work, the plumbing was a couple hundred, and we mounted it on old railroad ties. It was a beast to move though.
At the time generators we're on backorder for 6 months or more. Sounds like they've gotten ahead of the supply issues now.
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So my alternative would be something like Ecoflow's Delta Pro where I can haul them to an EV fast charging station and pay to charge them when I don't have enough sun light. Akin to refilling propane tanks. They also have dual batteries with integrated and propane generators. There are youtube channels of people testing racks of them for 1 day off grid with different high-drain appliances like electric clothes driers and portable ACs.
My hope is that solid state batteries are available in 14 years.
If you've never had major natural gas price jumps and don't anticipate it you should get it. My worry with these is that you'll never know it's broken till you try to use it unless you do yearly maintenance on them.
Not according to here?
https://norwall.com/power-expert/...s%20rating.
As a rule, the transfer switch current rating in amps must meet or exceed the main breaker rating in amps. A 200-Amp ATS can work with any panel rated at 200 amps or less, which includes 100-Amp and 150 Amps panels. However, the reverse is not true. A 100-amp transfer switch cannot work with 200-amp or 150-amp panel.
Can I use a 200 amp transfer switch on a 100 amp service?
I guess what I'm asking is does the 200 amp breaker in the ATS become the main and therefore I would have to run 4/0 AL to a 100 amp panel? Which becomes a sub panel.
Some guys are telling me no, that it is just a switch not actually the main and the service size stays #2 cause both the generator and the panel are 100 amp.
The generator was package bought with the transfer 200 came with 16kw generac.
Please advise.
Thanks, Not Sure
I did the same thing at my house. Inspector allowed it since the conductors are protected by the 100 amp breaker in the electrical panel. The 200 amp breaker in the transfer switch is just used as a disco.
https://conqelectric.co
mainly because the battery and solar panel deals call themselves "generators"
when they are just storage batteries. So every time my deal alert for generators goes off.
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also, terrible reviews.
Even on a "simple" installation you're looking at >$10k total.
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The WiFi and app is complete ass.
Maintenance isn't too bad. You can obviously pay and get hammered by a generac tech for hundreds each year - or you can buy the service kits yourself. It's simple oil and filter changes every year, and then they add in spark plugs on odds years. Now the plugs aren't that bad, except there is one on the backside of the motor near the wall. That can be a pain but just have patience. Follow proper gapping and torque. Plenty of youtube videos.
Again, I can't reiterate enough how bad the wifi and app are. But hey, it works when you need it.
So my alternative would be something like Ecoflow's Delta Pro where I can haul them to an EV fast charging station and pay to charge them when I don't have enough sun light. Akin to refilling propane tanks. They also have dual batteries with integrated and propane generators. There are youtube channels of people testing racks of them for 1 day off grid with different high-drain appliances like electric clothes driers and portable ACs.
My hope is that solid state batteries are available in 14 years.
If you've never had major natural gas price jumps and don't anticipate it you should get it. My worry with these is that you'll never know it's broken till you try to use it unless you do yearly maintenance on them.
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