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This is a sweet sounding niche headphone. Great soundstage, detail and sound quality for a BT headphone. It's not that loud to others because they are open headphones which is good if you have people around. That being said, the BT dongle ruined the experience for me and I purchased and returned for a refund twice. They sound great but the form factor blows. This sale indicates to me based on HiFiMan trends that a new model will be released shortly and this design will be abandoned as they fine tune their R2R DAC.
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