Pre-Order: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of The Kingdom (Nintendo Switch)

CTHobbit

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Is super shop legit

Yes, I ordered the latest Kirby from them and it was delivered as expected.

gambitlebo

Mar 23, 2023 4:54 PM

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When it comes to liking a game, it's 100% subjective, so there is no objective truth. You think it's trash, I think it was fantastic. To each his own.

The only question I have is, why even bother posting in a thread for a pre-order deal for a game you think is trash anyway and have no intention of buying?

For attention. I just block theses types that "hate something yet feel the need to enter a thread and post to only let everone know they dob't like something they bring noything positive to the conversation aside from "look at me! Stop liking what I don't like Sadly more and more of these self important people have joined this site recently

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jihk4204

Mar 23, 2023 5:20 PM

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With Nintendo 2 Game Voucher, you can get this and another select game for $100 ($50 each), just fyi

If you have a Costco membership, you can pick up 2 $50 eshop cards for $45 each to save more.

burndive

Mar 23, 2023 5:32 PM

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Quote from PowerPC

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I'd buy the Zelda special edition switch console but apparently it's not happening

1. I'd wait for the assertion that it's not happening until Nintendo does their marketing push (i.e., TOTK Nintendo Direct). That hasn't happened yet, and that leak we got in January looked pretty legit.

2. This is the game, not the special edition of the console, so it has nothing to do with the game per se. If you want the game physically, this is a good deal.

I'm betting we are getting a special edition TOTK OLED. If I can order one before they inevitably sell out, I'll probably take that opportunity to upgrade to the OLED and sell my current 2nd gen Switch. Then again, Nintendo projected very high unit sales for the Switch console this year, so hopefully they've been making enough TOTK OLEDs to satisfy demand, and they won't immediately sell out everywhere.

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flybywiretl

Mar 23, 2023 5:32 PM

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Quote from jihk4204

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If you have a Costco membership, you can pick up 2 $50 eshop cards for $45 each to save more.

Or get the $100 pack ($25 x 4) for $80.

Richardpogi

Mar 23, 2023 5:33 PM

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Quote from CyanCrib8158

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With Nintendo 2 Game Voucher, you can get this and another select game for $100 ($50 each), just fyi

Just wondering if we can get a physical copy if we do it this way.

3supes

Mar 23, 2023 5:33 PM

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"Best game in history" is clearly an overstatement.

He said "some people" consider it the best game of all-time, and some publications have explicitly said that [gamingbolt.com]. And I've seen it listed in top 5 or top 10 of all time very regularly. So I don't think it's an overstatement to say that some consider it the best game of all time. Obviously it's all subjective anyway when you get to something like that, there's no consensus best game ever.

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burndive

Mar 23, 2023 5:37 PM

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Quote from flybywiretl

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Anyone know the installed storage size of the game for digital? I imagine it would be a good chunk. Might be time to invest in the 512 GB microsd card with prices hovering around $50 now.

Download sizes are listed on the eShop, and TOTK is 18.2 GB.

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rockytem

Mar 23, 2023 5:42 PM

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Quote from Richardpogi

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Just wondering if we can get a physical copy if we do it this way.

no, it's only for digital games on the eshop. If you're willing to wait, you may eventually find it at a lower price - but that's a big maybe.

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MY post wasnt to make video games sound like a necessity. It was to show the different perspective of a person who may pirate and educate on the costs of things. You assume a persons ability to buy a game. There are billions of people in the world from all types of backgrounds who enjoy all types of games. You cant place all gamers in the same collective and say "Look, gamer 1 can afford game ABC so the rest can. In reality it doesnt work like that.Gamers in Brazil do not have the same income and costs of living as someone in France, or in Thailand. Gamers come from all backgrounds which is a great thing as it is accessible to all as long as you can afford it. It is democratic and the number of players directly correlates to the games reach and influence. The main hurdle for gamers is cost; console, controllers, internet, games, accessories, subscriptions, etc can easily add up for people who dont make a lot of money but want to enjoy video games. For A LOT of people now, video games are their main source of entertainment, relaxation,social interactions, etc. So it can certainly be "important" or a "necessity" for some. Dont generalize a group based on your own interactions

Pirating is not stealing. If I take $5 out of your wallet, that is stealing. A person pirating who doesn't intend to buy isn't stealing possible revenue from the developer or anyone. Lost earnings is a BS term made up by companies. No one has to recoup lost earnings because they were never realized. Its complete BS. How can you recover money you never had? Companies cant even quantify the amount of the product pirated so how would they be able to quantify lost earnings on pirating? THEY CANT. No one is losing money because no one made money. Is it possible that the company is reducing their max sales by pirating.

At the end of the day its not money, your money, its not anyones money being taken. Pirates are playing the games that you and I love, and maybe a couple buy the game after pirating, maybe a couple dont. Who cares, the video game industry is a behemoth and isnt stopping anytime soon, and life will go on.

Again, youre assuming everything from your own POV. I can have a laptop from 2005 that cost $50 and pirate all the content I want. Does that mean I can afford it? Not implicitly. If I never intend to buy a game but pirate it, its not stealing the $60 or $70 that it costs for the game. The game company isnt "losing" money in any way, as they never received that money for that product. So there is not theft of money.

If my understanding of "basic economics" is so incorrect, then educate me, im waiting because you attack me for saying a bunch of nothing but you go on to do the same thing

names check out. 🍿 👀

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flybywiretl

Mar 23, 2023 5:45 PM

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Download sizes are listed on the eShop, and TOTK is 18.2 GB.

Thanks! That's not too large.. actually smaller footprint than XCOM 2.

3supes

Mar 23, 2023 5:58 PM

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3supesMar 23, 2023 5:58 PM

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Quote from istolethisusername

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Pirating is not stealing. If I take $5 out of your wallet, that is stealing. A person pirating who doesn't intend to buy isn't stealing possible revenue from the developer or anyone. Lost earnings is a BS term made up by companies. No one has to recoup lost earnings because they were never realized. Its complete BS. How can you recover money you never had? Companies cant even quantify the amount of the product pirated so how would they be able to quantify lost earnings on pirating? THEY CANT. No one is losing money because no one made money. Is it possible that the company is reducing their max sales by pirating.

At the end of the day its not money, your money, its not anyones money being taken. Pirates are playing the games that you and I love, and maybe a couple buy the game after pirating, maybe a couple dont. Who cares, the video game industry is a behemoth and isnt stopping anytime soon, and life will go on.

So I've heard your basic argument a lot... "if I didn't pirate, I wouldn't buy the game anyway, I just wouldn't play it!" And honestly to me it just sounds like a way that folks justify their own shitty behavior.

But I agree with you on two points at least:
* Piracy isn't stealing. Stealing means you deprive someone of ownership of something. Piracy is actually a form of copyright infringement (still a crime and still wrong, but not theft).
* Video game publishers are absolutely overstating the effect of piracy on sales. There's *some* effect, sure, but they often use it as a scapegoat when in reality a game just flops.

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anorexicwallet

Mar 23, 2023 6:20 PM

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Quote from 3supes

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He said "some people" consider it the best game of all-time, and some publications have explicitly said that [gamingbolt.com]. And I've seen it listed in top 5 or top 10 of all time very regularly. So I don't think it's an overstatement to say that some consider it the best game of all time. Obviously it's all subjective anyway when you get to something like that, there's no consensus best game ever.

BOTW was the best game I've ever played .

Hands down

And I've been gaming since NES in 1989
And have owned N64, game boy, wii, switch PS, PS2, Dreamcast, PS3, PS4, Xbox , Xbox 360, Xbox one, Xbox one X. And many gaming PCs and graphics cards throughout the years.

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flybywiretl

Mar 23, 2023 6:28 PM

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Quote from 3supes

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So I've heard your basic argument a lot... "if I didn't pirate, I wouldn't buy the game anyway, I just wouldn't play it!" And honestly to me it just sounds like a way that folks justify their own shitty behavior.

But I agree with you on two points at least:
* Piracy isn't stealing. Stealing means you deprive someone of ownership of something. Piracy is actually a form of copyright infringement (still a crime and still wrong, but not theft).
* Video game publishers are absolutely overstating the effect of piracy on sales. There's *some* effect, sure, but they often use it as a scapegoat when in reality a game just flops.

I would argue that it's semantics.

In the days before the Internet, a person goes into Circuit City, EB, or Babbages, grabs a disk and tucks into his/her pants and strolls out without paying.

Nowadays, a person enters a pirating website and then downloads a game without paying.

Are those two things not fundamentally the same? In both cases, the person stealing/infringing/whatever the next buzzword is did not properly compensate the dev for their work.

Last edited by flybywiretl March 23, 2023 at 11:31 AM.

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3supes

Mar 23, 2023 6:36 PM

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Quote from flybywiretl

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I would argue that it's semantics.

In the days before the Internet, a person goes into Circuit City, EB, or Babbages, grabs a disk and tucks into his/her pants and strolls out without paying.

Nowadays, a person enters a pirating website and then downloads a game without paying.

Are those two things not fundamentally the same? The person did not properly compensate the dev for their work.

It's an interesting discussion.

From a legal perspective at least, they're different. Theft is depriving someone else of property. There's separate laws for copyright infringement since it's akin to illegally copying someone's work, not stealing it from a store (the difference is basically if you go into a bookstore and steal a book, versus go into a bookstore and take a picture of all the book's pages). Courts have explicitly rejected categorizing copyright infringement as "theft."

From a moral perspective though, I'd agree they're fundamentally the same. Certainly not all folks who steal/pirate works would have bought it otherwise. But some unknown percentage would, and the creator of the work ultimately loses out either way.

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