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Price drop on every Tesla model - $49990
April 6, 2023 at
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Last Edited by jersharocks | Staff April 7, 2023 at 11:11 AM$49,990.00
Model 3 RWD $41990
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990
$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3
Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.
https://www.tesla.com
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990
$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3
Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.
https://www.tesla.com
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Since it can let you input all the variables you mention for a specific trip, and also you can optimize for personal choices like if you'd prefer to make two 10 minute stops...or one 30 minute stop for a meal and so on.
Does anyone know if model3 LR will be available later this year? (looks like older ones had almost 360 mile range) Will that also be limited to half tax credit when it becomes available? If it is around the same price as model Y LR (within 2-3k), I would rather go with model Y since model Y seems more spacious - especially the trunk/cargo space.
Ukraine, on the border of the EU, has the largest reserves of lithium in Europe with mines in Donetsk and Kirovograd.
Source: EENEWSEurope.
Whoa, that's a pretty serious accusation about Russia invading Ukraine and causing a massive number of deaths. The conflict between these two countries is super complicated, and it's not just about lithium. It's true that Ukraine has huge reserves of lithium, with mines located in Donetsk and Kirovograd. European countries like Serbia, Portugal, and Austria also have some significant deposits of this metal. The conflict in Donetsk isn't just about the lithium deposits. It's also about the region's autonomy and the tensions between Ukrainian and Russian populations. Regarding your source, EENEWSEurope is a trustworthy news outlet that covers news in the energy sector, including lithium mining. It's always a good idea to cross-check any news you hear with multiple sources to get a more comprehensive understanding.
this must be one of your self professed fact based responses, let's hope for everyone's sake that you live up to the promise.
LR 3 occasionally shows up in inventory when they have spare cells to make a few... but they're full credit (they use the same batteries as are used in the performance 3 and most of the Ys currently built- 2170 cells from Nevada)
FWIW when both the LR 3 and LR Y were both available for order the price difference was typically in the 6-8k range, not 2-3...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-pro...school-bus
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3mnG_Gb
https://www.theguardian
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesl...-vehicles/
Loves hitting 18-wheelers and firetrucks DESPITE 40+ cameras, radars, and other sensors.
2. Poor quality control - steering wheel falls off
https://www.smh.com.au/business/c...5cqle.html
3. Spontaneous fires
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/...-rcna68153
https://carbuzz.com/news/look-at-...tesla-fire
4. Dated design
Years and years and years of the same now boring design and shape.
Competitors have pulled ahead.
5. Horrible wait times for repairs....if there's even a tesla repair center nearby (far far fewer tesla centers vs popular brands like Ford).
https://teslamotorsclub
6. Feeding the Musk stink - more money for his warped ego.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/edwa...57aecc58
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/17/f...rings.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/1...-musk.html
https://www.latimes.com/business/...s-timeline
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EV requires a tremendous amount of rare earths, lithium battery and motor components, etc from communist China, pushing America even closer to energy dependence despite being a net exporter of oil/gas.
The electrical infrastructure even in CA isn't able to handle everyone going electric today. Not by far. The demand of everyone plugging in at night would fry networks.....if there was enough electricity supply, which there isn't. (Frequent rolling blackout alerts during summer as the grid maxes out already.)
No recycling process capable of better than 90-95% in use domestically, not enough recycling plants by far. Thus, 1000 lbs battery, 100 lbs~+ of toxic unrecyclable slag going into the dumps.
Every decade, battery replacement at $10k~.
Very heavy EV cars for long range - both economy killer and road killer. Ups, usps, fedex already studied how poor America's roads have become with ever heavier vehicles and faster wear of the roads.
The lithium battery never gets lighter as its charge is used up, so 1000+lbs of battery always eats up efficiency. With gas/hydrogen cars, the weight drops as fuel is used up, increasing the efficiency.
No known way to manufacture a lithium battery for commercial use today that can't spontaneously catch on fire. Park outdoors or the potential fire will burn down the home. And you don't even need a big lithium battery to do that.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/3...eaths.html
Teslas, Bolts, hoverboards, and other lithium fires.
Apartment renters.
No plug anywhere street side, time tax on half the population trying to find a charger and waste an hour every week.
EV = the out of sight pollution for 1st world buyers. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/0...-race.html
Just because smog isn't coming out the tailpipe doesn't mean ev is CLEAN for the air or earth. Million in 2nd and 3rd world countries are negatively affected by rare earth mining destroying their water and countryside.
Let's repeat that - buying EV simply shifts pollution onto poorer countries and citizens!
Claiming wars won't be fought over EV resources when one of the biggest wars in the past 80 years is going on in Eastern Ukraine where major lithium deposits are is insane.
Eh, suit yourself. I'm not here to force you to agree with me or anything. If you want to keep thinking that wars are solely fought over EV resources, go ahead - I'm not gonna stop you. But let's not forget that there are always multiple factors at play in any conflict, and it's rarely as simple as just one thing.
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Ukraine, on the border of the EU, has the largest reserves of lithium in Europe with mines in Donetsk and Kirovograd.
Source: EENEWSEurope.
This is the side of the war that doesn't get talked about nearly enough. New conflicts are greatly motivated over access to rare resources/minerals to support the renewable/green energy sector. That is not speculation, it's a fact. That doesn't mean someone should be against green tech, but there is a huge dark side to how materials are sourced to sustain the industry. Africa and Eastern Asia are some other areas where this is happening. Ethnic cleansing is almost a convenient distraction.
Also, this same scenario has happened all over the world through the course of time. See what's going on in Guyana now.
what does manufacturing cost or vertical integration have to do with it? same thing as Apple getting much better prices for panels due to high volume orders.
the simple fact that they have such high profit margin means they can lower prices much more, which is the definition of overpriced. why is that so hard to understand? according to you they can charge whatever they want for it as long as it sells right?
The difference being that other cars cant afford to lower their prices because they would be selling it at a loss and a lot already are.
Tesla is using the profit margins to slowly cut prices and hit the competition as needed.
They are a company trying to make profits, not selling you products out of good will. It isnt a charity lol. Just because they have a massive advantage with profit margins with their innovative manufacturing, it doesn't mean they have to pass the entire savings to you. In time they will, and already are, but while damaging their competition.
let me know when you find a car manufacturer that passes all its cost savings to you haha.
No, have you seen?
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-pro...school-bus [foxnews.com]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3mnG_Gb
https://www.theguardian.com/techn...tion-in-us [theguardian.com]
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesl...-vehicles/ [cbsnews.com]
Loves hitting 18-wheelers and firetrucks DESPITE 40+ cameras, radars, and other sensors.
2. Poor quality control - steering wheel falls off
https://www.smh.com.au/business/c...5cqle.html [com.au]
3. Spontaneous fires
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/...-rcna68153 [nbcnews.com]
https://carbuzz.com/news/look-at-...tesla-fire [carbuzz.com]
4. Dated design
Years and years and years of the same now boring design and shape.
Competitors have pulled ahead.
5. Horrible wait times for repairs....if there's even a tesla repair center nearby (far far fewer tesla centers vs popular brands like Ford).
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/t...582/page-2 [teslamotorsclub.com]
6. Feeding the Musk stink - more money for his warped ego.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/edwa...57aecc586b [forbes.com]
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/17/f...rings.html [cnbc.com]
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/1...-musk.html [nytimes.com]
https://www.latimes.com/business/...s-timeline [latimes.com]
1. Long charging times and unreliable chargers will mean lots of land will need to be acquired to accommodate these chargers along with the infrastructure to power them. Off highway exits, truckers can't even find enough parking spots to rest. Now you have to add electric chargers to the mix? Given how resistant many gas stations, stores and the government have been to adding chargers, I'm not seeing the scale-up many imagine.
2. Expensive batteries that can cost as much as the car and make them expensive to insure.
3. Heavy batteries that sap range.
4. People in urban areas and apartments will not be able to charge cars easily.
5. Electric chargers have copper in them that thieves love to strip. Good luck finding any in NYC, Chicago and London on the street that will be untouched.
6. Towing? Range drops massively. Recharging with a trailer? LOL. Good luck somewhere like Michigan where thousands of people travel North on I-75 and other state highways. Acres of land will have to be used for that, destroying the landscape.
7. Range decreases in extreme weather, like cold weather.
8. Range can be wildly unpredictable, just like a cellphone battery.
9. Buying an EV now will heavily restrict where you can travel. Yes, this may change in the future, but if you need to travel somewhere off the beaten path with an EV, be prepared to be stranded.
10. I've heard they're difficult to tow but I've seen other EVs being towed, so I'm sure that really isn't an issue.
11. Battery disposal, I don't care what people say, will eventually become a huge problem.