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Last Edited by jersharocks | Staff April 7, 2023 at 11:11 AM$49,990.00
Model 3 RWD $41990
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990
$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3
Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.
https://www.tesla.com
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990
$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3
Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.
https://www.tesla.com
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Weird... I've had my 3 since 2018 and not had this experience... and it does get pretty warm/sunny here in NC... wonder if they changed the stock glass or something since mine?
i got my roof tinted and it barely does anything right now in the spring, i'm almost certain i will need one of those detachable shades for the roof come summer when every day is 90f+ and sunny for 3 months straight
Even more weird tint wouldn't help
Anyway yeah Tesla does sell a sunshade if you want to just totally block all light- link to the one for the Y:
https://shop.tesla.com/product/mo...f-sunshade
Even more weird tint wouldn't help
Anyway yeah Tesla does sell a sunshade if you want to just totally block all light- link to the one for the Y:
https://shop.tesla.com/product/mo...f-sunshade
but it's like putting a shade in front of a light shining at your face, it's still there, and in the sun's case, it can still get warm
thanks for the link, I will look for something like that mainly for spring n summer
And is reporting actual warranty claim rates based on data in each car makers own published financial disclosures.
Which they explain on their home page.
That you couldn't be bothered to check.
So do you have a BETTER source or did you just hate the facts so much you tried throwing shade at this one without knowing anything about it?
Again your not having bothered to even check WHAT the data actually is is showing.
Those aren't "ratings"
Those are the actual warranty claim rates of each company as derived from theactual annual reports of each car company
The reason for the low rates of Chinese companies can be understood pretty easily if you bothered to know...well... literally anything...about the topic.
Chinese car warranties tend to be shorter, and cover less, than western warranties do for starters.
For another most of those lowest-claim-rate companies WELL below 1% have only produced any significant number of vehicles very recently- so their claims rates SHOULD be very low unless they're complete garbage- thus their rates are hilariously low between that and the previous fact cited on covering less to begin with. For example the data in this report is from 2021.... Nio the previous year produced less than 50,000 total vehicles. And the year before that only about 20,000. Tesla in contrast has been mass producing EVs for over a decade now, with annual production by 2015 already larger than Nios in 2020 so those rates are already normalized just like the other legacy automakers-- the Chinese ones aren't there yet. And mostly won't be for a few more years.
The couple of longer-established chinese companies on there have rates pretty close to Toyotas.... because they actually make very good stuff. Toyota themselves being shocked how good they were- to the point they actually formed a joint venture with BYD specifically because of how impressed they were by the quality of their vehicles.
https://www.reuters.com/business/...021-12-02/ [reuters.com]
I know many people with Teslas and warranty hassles, (they would never do warranty again because of the horror they had to go through, months of wait time and one location 30 miles away and this is in SOCAL!) and I have driven a few and seen enough quality videos on youtube which matches my perception of Tesla being one of the lowest quality built cars ever. The motors are fast, the car looks beautiful, the battery is ingenious but it all stops there. It lacks tons of things other cars have including panels lining up and actual clicking buttons to control things without having to sift through menus on a tablet. Teslas also dont have Android Auto and Apple CarPlay which is rare nowadays.
That isn't what the info at the site actually is, or says, or means.
It does not "rate" anything.
Instead what it does is tabulate the actual warranty claims rate reported by each car company
It reports info from the car companies themselves
Which the site itself also explains- you just can't be bothered to read it.
I even gave you an explanation on why there's a couple of practically brand new Chinese companies whose results don't contain enough data to be useful....That explanation is also at the website. But of course you couldn't be bothered to read or understand a word of it and instead appear fixated on THAT data-- without understanding it's data, or why it doesn't really tell the story you have imagined it does.
It also lists the warranty rates of several older, larger Chinese car makers....whose scores are roughly the same as Toyota-- and I provided you a link to the fact Toyota themselves agrees with that to the point of being so impressed by the quality of one of those Chinese makers they're partnering with them to try and jumpstart their own decade-behind-on-tech EV efforts in China. But again you couldn't be bothered to read a word of that either.
https://electrek.co/2023/04/17/to...first-day/
That's a story about Toyotas new EV for the China market. Where the entire powertrain is actually from BYD- the company whose quality was so good it impressed Toyota into partnering with them rather than trying to do it themselves.
You seem deeply, deeply, uninterested in facts or understanding.
I know many people with Teslas and warranty hassles, (they would never do warranty again because of the horror they had to go through, months of wait time and one location 30 miles away and this is in SOCAL!) and I have driven a few and seen enough quality videos on youtube which matches my perception of Tesla being one of the lowest quality built cars ever. The motors are fast, the car looks beautiful, the battery is ingenious but it all stops there. It lacks tons of things other cars have including panels lining up and actual clicking buttons to control things without having to sift through menus on a tablet. Teslas also dont have Android Auto and Apple CarPlay which is rare nowadays.
As far as Tesla warranty claims, they must not count them right. I mean just look at all of these Tesla threads, half of the people report issues upon pick and actually schedule a service center appointment before they leave the lot. Some drive it right over to the service center instead of home. And that's not counting all of the refused cars that go back in the pool for the next fool to settle for.
Android auto, Apple Carplay, blind spot monitoring, these are all things that have become standard on the lowest entry level cars. But Tesla doesn't think you need/want them.
I pointed out why the data from the few companies that only began mass production in the last year or two might not be useful to compare to warranty claim rates of companies who have cars that have actually been mass produced during a full warranty period though.
But again nobody said any data here was invalid. Just that the data for those couple of companies aren't useful for comparison. And explained why.
It's a pretty funny attempt to distract from the fact Teslas own warranty rate is virtually identical to Toyotas though-- and both are about the same as the couple of long-established Chinese makers that also have high quality (like BYD- whose quality was so impressive to Toyota themselves they started a joint partnership with them).
As far as Tesla warranty claims, they must not count them right. I mean just look at all of these Tesla threads, half of the people report issues upon pick and actually schedule a service center appointment before they leave the lot. Some drive it right over to the service center instead of home. And that's not counting all of the refused cars that go back in the pool for the next fool to settle for.
Android auto, Apple Carplay, blind spot monitoring, these are all things that have become standard on the lowest entry level cars. But Tesla doesn't think you need/want them.
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And of course that story is also… not fact based
Rather than go by the actual # of actual recalls that have actually happened, they "projected recalls over an expected 30-year lifespan"
It's weird how every time the actual facts don't support the Tesla hate people invent new imaginary ways to sustain it.
Even funnier, they admit they're counting software updates, done over the air without the owner having to actually take the car for any sort of "repair"
So I suppose my iPhone was just 'recalled' since they sent out an iOS update. Man, phones get recalled a LOT it seems!
MEANWHILE BACK IN REALITY... we can examine the number of actual recalls that have actually happened
In fact- we did. Earlier in the very thread.
Tesla had far fewer recalls than Toyota over a 10 year period.
The below was already posted almost a week ago-I bolded a few bits that I guess you missed LAST time I had to debunk nonsense like this-
In the last 10 years Toyota has had 162 NHTSA recalls.
Because they don't have OTA updates they all required physical work at a dealer.
In the same time period, Tesla had 51.
About half of them... and many of the more recent ones especially....have been fixed with OTA software updates requiring nothing from the owner but clicking install update.
So in terms of actual physical manufacturing defects you're looking at about 6 times more for Toyota than Tesla in that period.
And even If you want to keep insisting we count a software update as a "recall" same as say Toyotas "wheels might fall off car" then Tesla is still more than 3x better than Toyota over the last 10 years
MY by 3K
Model Y is literally the best selling car in the world this year my dude.
https://electrek.co/2023/04/18/el...omes-true/
It's like you're allergic to facts or something.
Also, quick reminder, since I guess you forgot the last 5 times you were told this- this is mostly Tesla just backing out all the price increases from the last 2 years to put them back to normal.
The price of the LR Model Y for example as of yesterday was "cut" to $49,990.
Guess what the price was set to in July 2020? $49,990.
We already know from public financials the profit on the Y was terrific at this price when they weren't building and selling nearly as many of them back ~2 years ago- so thanks to economies of scale, reduced logistics from increased local production, and manufacturing efficiencies they should be even better now.
Rather than go by the actual # of actual recalls that have actually happened, they "projected recalls over an expected 30-year lifespan"
It's weird how every time the actual facts don't support the Tesla hate people invent new imaginary ways to sustain it.
Even funnier, they admit they're counting software updates, done over the air without the owner having to actually take the car for any sort of "repair"
So I suppose my iPhone was just 'recalled' since they sent out an iOS update. Man, phones get recalled a LOT it seems!
MEANWHILE BACK IN REALITY... we can examine the number of actual recalls that have actually happened
In fact- we did. Earlier in the very thread.
Tesla had far fewer recalls than Toyota over a 10 year period.
The below was already posted almost a week ago-I bolded a few bits that I guess you missed LAST time I had to debunk nonsense like this-
In the last 10 years Toyota has had 162 NHTSA recalls.
Because they don't have OTA updates they all required physical work at a dealer.
In the same time period, Tesla had 51.
About half of them... and many of the more recent ones especially....have been fixed with OTA software updates requiring nothing from the owner but clicking install update.
So in terms of actual physical manufacturing defects you're looking at about 6 times more for Toyota than Tesla in that period.
And even If you want to keep insisting we count a software update as a "recall" same as say Toyotas "wheels might fall off car" then Tesla is still more than 3x better than Toyota over the last 10 years
A recall fixed by an over the air 'fix' is no longer a real recall?? mkay....
https://electrek.co/2023/04/18/el...omes-true/
It's like you're allergic to facts or something.
Also, quick reminder, since I guess you forgot the last 5 times you were told this- this is mostly Tesla just backing out all the price increases from the last 2 years to put them back to normal.
The price of the LR Model Y for example as of yesterday was "cut" to $49,990.
Guess what the price was set to in July 2020? $49,990.
We already know from public financials the profit on the Y was terrific at this price when they weren't building and selling nearly as many of them back ~2 years ago- so thanks to economies of scale, reduced logistics from increased local production, and manufacturing efficiencies they should be even better now.
again-- the LR Model Y is now.... the same price is was in mid-2020. Not cheaper.
The standard range Y is still $7000 more than it was at launch in mid 2021.
So mostly this is just dialing out the price INCREASES during the covid/supply chain years.
But more broadly speaking, in the long term, the lower the price of a thing, the larger the total addressable market of people who can afford to buy it.
Tesla keeps increasing production an average of 50% a year (some higher some lower) and plans to keep doing so for years to come.
supply keeps increasing
By a lot.
When that happens, each thing is cheaper to make, and if you want to increase the addressable market, price eventually comes down, while maintaining high profits.
It's like nobody has been listening when, for years and years now, Tesla has been telling you their exact business plan.... to accelerate the worlds transition to sustainable transportation and energy.... and that they'd continually expand production and long term lower prices to do that.
Which is... exactly what they keep doing. Only they're mostly just back down to "before the crazy times" prices.
It's not like the Y was 100k in 2020 and 50k now.
It was 50k then, and it's just NOW back to 50k.
Is it a recall when your phone gets a software update to fix a bug?
Is it a recall when your PC does?
Same thing here.
The only reason anybody calls it a "recall" is because the NHTSA rules were written decades ago before software updates were a thing, so ANY fix of any kind is called a recall because there's nothing in the rules that lets you call it what it is-- a software update to fix a software bug.
Demand at the lower price is higher than at the higher price.
If you want to sell 10k of a thing you can charge more for it than if you want to sell 1 million of the thing.
supply keeps increasing
By a lot.
30-50% annually.
When that happens, each thing is cheaper to make, and if you want to increase the addressable market, price comes down, while maintaining high profits.
It's like nobody has been listening when, for years and years now, Tesla has been telling you their exact business plan.... to accelerate the worlds transition to sustainable transportation and energy.... and that they'd continually expand production and lower prices to do that.
Which is... exactly what they keep doing.
Is it a recall when your phone gets a software update to fix a bug?
Is it a recall when your PC does?
Same thing here.
The only reason anybody calls it a "recall" is because the NHTSA rules were written decades ago before software updates were a thing, so ANY fix of any kind is called a recall because there's nothing in the rules that lets you call it what it is-- a software update to fix a software bug.
If your phone has a bug that gets fixed it could be a recall if it caused your phone to create a hazardous situation. ( Samsung had batteries burst in flames, which wasn't fixed by software )
I don't care how you fix it. A recall is a recall. They don't count every software fix as a recall.
Car makers have
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If your phone has a bug that gets fixed it could be a recall if it caused your phone to create a hazardous situation. ( Samsung had batteries burst in flames, which wasn't fixed by software )
I don't care how you fix it. A recall is a recall. They don't count every software fix as a recall.
Car makers have
One of the "recalls" for Tesla was to remove your ability to use your own sound file for the pedestrian speaker noise--- because technically the federal rules say you're only allowed to use whatever noises the car maker gives you (though those can be anything, it's not like there's one official sound they have to use. A second recall was ALSO related to the pedestrian sound thing where again Tesla just had to remove an extra feature that technically broke an NHTSA rule but had endangered exactly 0 people.
That is.... not exactly comparable to "phone in your pocket might catch on fire" or any other "hazardous" situation, is it?
(doubly so when you admit the phone thing wasn't even a software fix anyway....)
Aside from which, even if you DO insist that on counting even the "update how the sound thing works" and others like it as recalls comparable to Toyotas "Wheels may fall off when driving" issues... Tesla still had over 3 times fewer recalls than Toyota over the last 10 years.