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frontpage Posted by Talysdaddy • May 20, 2023

Epoch 25P 18650 2500mAh 20A Lithium Ion Battery

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$1.00

$4.99

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18650 Battery Store has Epoch 25P 18650 2500mAh 20A Lithium Ion Battery on sale for $0.99. Shipping starts at $5.81.

Thanks community member Talysdaddy for sharing this deal

Note, in order to maximize savings, it is recommended that you order multiple quantity to help offset shipping costs.

About this Product (per product page):
  • User must be familiar with handling lithium ion batteries before purchase
  • Charge only with a smart charger designed for this specific type of lithium ion battery
  • Do not mix and match old and new, used and unused batteries.

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Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • Reviews: This Battery is highly rated receiving 4.8 Stars out of 5 Stars based on over 80 Customer Reviews.
  • Refer to 1850 Battery Store Return Policy
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this product and offer. -slickdewmaster

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18650 Battery Store has Epoch 25P 18650 2500mAh 20A Lithium Ion Battery on sale for $0.99. Shipping starts at $5.81.

Thanks community member Talysdaddy for sharing this deal

Note, in order to maximize savings, it is recommended that you order multiple quantity to help offset shipping costs.

About this Product (per product page):
  • User must be familiar with handling lithium ion batteries before purchase
  • Charge only with a smart charger designed for this specific type of lithium ion battery
  • Do not mix and match old and new, used and unused batteries.

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • Reviews: This Battery is highly rated receiving 4.8 Stars out of 5 Stars based on over 80 Customer Reviews.
  • Refer to 1850 Battery Store Return Policy
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this product and offer. -slickdewmaster

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Legit flashlights use 18650s, as do most powerbanks
Damn these are no Samsung 30Qs but those are about 5x more expensive. Btw 13 batteries is the sweet spots as shipping jumps for 14 batteries (13 comes out to $26), if you need less be sure to look at quantities as shipping price jumps at certain points (6 batteries seems to be the next step down)
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May 20, 2023
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jottect
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank jottect

Quote from BlueTable948 :
Don't most flashlights require protected cells with the tit? I use these in my vape though
Some flashlights will accept and obviously work with flat 18650 because the flashlight does not check for "protection". Also, there is no rule that all 18650 with button top are protected.
Problem: if you use unprotected batteries in flashlights, because they do not have a protection against over discharge, they won't stop working when battery voltage drops to 2.8V or more, hence this is a risk that can lead to melting, swelling, short circuit and explosion/fire. So, for a flashlight it is highly recommended to use protected batteries, especially if the one using it is not aware of risk involved with Li-Ion batteries.
Unprotected 18650 batteries (like this one here) can be used in devices that are able to monitor the battery and stop working when voltage reaches usually ~3.2V. This usually happens in laptops, notebooks, cell phones and vaping devices.
This battery here is suitable for vaping or home projects (eg. buy 30 of them and redo your e-bike battery).
I have bought in the past from battery store and all my experiences were nice. Their products are good quality for specified purpose.
I bought some EPOCH (30P and HJ2 model) and they work really well in my vaping devices for more than a year now.
This here is a great deal and this model it is more "power" oriented than "longevity".
If I won't have enough batteries in my vaping cycle (just counted 14), I would buy at least 4 of those.
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May 20, 2023
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AvantNate
May 20, 2023
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Quote from Rawimpact :
Someone do the math please, how many do I need for 12v 14amps? Asking for a friend
If you used 18 cells in a 3s6p configuration, you would have a peak voltage of 12.6v but nominal voltage of 10.8v with 15ah That's the safest. If you go to 4s, your peak voltage goes up to 16.8v. I have a small led strip that I killed with 4s, but was fine at 3s.
May 20, 2023
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xtp
May 20, 2023
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Quote from tommyimages :
Thanks. I bought 10 of these 1.5 years ago. Barely used, 2 went bad sitting in my flashlight. At this price though, totally worth it.
followed by how it blew up and burned down your house reviews. bounce
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May 20, 2023
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Thevipchemist
May 20, 2023
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Dead. Just bought the last one. Now out of stock.
May 20, 2023
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BlueTable948
May 20, 2023
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Quote from jottect :
Some flashlights will accept and obviously work with flat 18650 because the flashlight does not check for "protection". Also, there is no rule that all 18650 with button top are protected.
Problem: if you use unprotected batteries in flashlights, because they do not have a protection against over discharge, they won't stop working when battery voltage drops to 2.8V or more, hence this is a risk that can lead to melting, swelling, short circuit and explosion/fire. So, for a flashlight it is highly recommended to use protected batteries, especially if the one using it is not aware of risk involved with Li-Ion batteries.
Unprotected 18650 batteries (like this one here) can be used in devices that are able to monitor the battery and stop working when voltage reaches usually ~3.2V. This usually happens in laptops, notebooks, cell phones and vaping devices.
This battery here is suitable for vaping or home projects (eg. buy 30 of them and redo your e-bike battery).
I have bought in the past from battery store and all my experiences were nice. Their products are good quality for specified purpose.
I bought some EPOCH (30P and HJ2 model) and they work really well in my vaping devices for more than a year now.
This here is a great deal and this model it is more "power" oriented than "longevity".
If I won't have enough batteries in my vaping cycle (just counted 14), I would buy at least 4 of those.
Thank for that detailed explanation. It helps a lot.
May 20, 2023
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May 20, 2023
menojunk
May 20, 2023
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Quote from Col.TED :
If you have some old DELL laptop batteries, those are 18650 treasure chests….😊
can you please tell me more about this? thanks.
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Quote from menojunk :
can you please tell me more about this? thanks.
https://youtu.be/6GpvOvw5oEc

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May 21, 2023
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Steelgaze
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Quote from jottect :
Problem: if you use unprotected batteries in flashlights, because they do not have a protection against over discharge, they won't stop working when battery voltage drops to 2.8V or more, hence this is a risk that can lead to melting, swelling, short circuit and explosion/fire. So, for a flashlight it is highly recommended to use protected batteries, especially if the one using it is not aware of risk involved with Li-Ion batteries.
Actually never a problem if you buy a GOOD flashlight and not some random no brand amazon drop shipped item. All my more powerful lights require the batteries to be unprotected because a protection circuit would kick in and stop the light from working at higher outputs.

What you need to make sure for flashlights is that there is a over discharge protection in the light that will safety stop the light after dropping past 2.8v. Again, all good branded flashlights will have this protection circuit. What people need to do when considering high output flashlights is to look up several reviews of them. If you can't find a reviews of the item (specifically youtube and budgetlightforums), pass on the light. It's probably garbage.
May 22, 2023
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lottathought
May 22, 2023
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Quote from techhero :
are tools's battery packs or power banks packs internal cells replaceable? arent they usually sealed?
"Sealed" means that it is not set up to be replaced on a regular basis. (IE..a TV remote is not sealed....as it is designed to have the batteries replaced on a regular basis.)

That does not mean that somebody with some level of skill cannot replace the cells in a sealed system.
If you can figure out how to open the case.. (Sometimes it is screwed together and sometimes it is glued in some spot)..then you will find that the batteries are usually connected via some nickel strips.
Some people solder new cells in to replace the dead cells. I have a little, very inexpensive unit that can spot-weld new cells. If you Youtube it, you will see that some people have built a spot weld device with a lawn mower/motorcycle battery. I imagine that you can do it with a car battery too.

It only takes about 1 tool or laptop battery to have the whole setup pay for itself.
May 22, 2023
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jottect
May 22, 2023
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Quote from Steelgaze :
Actually never a problem if you buy a GOOD flashlight and not some random no brand amazon drop shipped item. All my more powerful lights require the batteries to be unprotected because a protection circuit would kick in and stop the light from working at higher outputs.

What you need to make sure for flashlights is that there is a over discharge protection in the light that will safety stop the light after dropping past 2.8v. Again, all good branded flashlights will have this protection circuit. What people need to do when considering high output flashlights is to look up several reviews of them. If you can't find a reviews of the item (specifically youtube and budgetlightforums), pass on the light. It's probably garbage.
N00b question here: may I ask how does the flashlight require unprotected batteries? What happens if you insert protected cells? Will not work?
May 22, 2023
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May 22, 2023
Steelgaze
May 22, 2023
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Quote from jottect :
N00b question here: may I ask how does the flashlight require unprotected batteries? What happens if you insert protected cells? Will not work?
Basically yes. The battery protection circuit cuts the battery for the voltage spike on turning on.

other times while technically not required you can't access the full lumen ramp and only be able to get half or less of what the light is capable of outputting. that leads to complaints. then people angry for whatever reason on. it understanding protected and unprotected.
May 22, 2023
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techhero
May 22, 2023
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Quote from lottathought :
"Sealed" means that it is not set up to be replaced on a regular basis. (IE..a TV remote is not sealed....as it is designed to have the batteries replaced on a regular basis.)

That does not mean that somebody with some level of skill cannot replace the cells in a sealed system.
If you can figure out how to open the case.. (Sometimes it is screwed together and sometimes it is glued in some spot)..then you will find that the batteries are usually connected via some nickel strips.
Some people solder new cells in to replace the dead cells. I have a little, very inexpensive unit that can spot-weld new cells. If you Youtube it, you will see that some people have built a spot weld device with a lawn mower/motorcycle battery. I imagine that you can do it with a car battery too.

It only takes about 1 tool or laptop battery to have the whole setup pay for itself.
I guess I just wasn't looking around hard enough. I just took a quick look around over the weekend and found that my solar powered light in the backyard are indeed 18650 based, and replaceable by opening few screws. It came with 1200mAh, if I can replace with this epoch 2500mAh, it will fix my complaint on how short the battery last for those lights at night. When I was excited to order some, they already sold out...
May 23, 2023
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digThisXL
May 23, 2023
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Quote from Vikroda :
Looks like they are limiting purchase to a single cell now.
Just ordered 26. At 27, shipping jumps a dollar.
Back in stock.
May 23, 2023
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mrhoque
May 23, 2023
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20A should be good for vape mod

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May 24, 2023
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barthezzko
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Neither a vaper, nor a smoker here. Store explicitly advices against using them for vapes. Just curious what can go wrong if you do?

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