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frontpage Posted by krispytreat007 • Jun 2, 2023
frontpage Posted by krispytreat007 • Jun 2, 2023

2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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Nostradel
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Quote from ABshe :
I'm holding for $25k.
Hold ''em Cowboy, 2026
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Nostradel
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Quote from Knightshade :
You think one of the most valuable companies in the world- with ~20 billion dollars in cash sitting around- is just openly engaging in outright fraud via public statements to steal $250 from you?




There's actually several ways it's possible.

One of them is you can shift your credits around in time


§ 1.30D–3(a)(3)(iv) would provide that a qualified manufacturer may determine qualifying critical mineral content based on the value of the applicable critical minerals actually contained in the battery of a specific vehicle. Alternatively, for purposes of calculating the qualifying critical mineral content for batteries in a group of vehicles, a qualified manufacturer could average the qualifying critical mineral content calculation over a limited period of time (for example, a year, quarter, or month) with respect to vehicles from the same model line, plant, class, or some combination of thereof, with final assembly (as defined in section 30D(d)(5) of the Code and proposed § 1.30D–2(b)) within North America.




There's a couple different ways Tesla could be using that to allow for $7500 full credit here, retroactive to the April 18th date.


One way is they intend to change those cars to non-china batteries soon-- in which case they can shift the years credits around to provide this several-months window where the cars with Chinese ones qualify and after that they qualify via US batteries.

The fact they recently began importing Chinese built cars into Canada suggests they are, indeed, freeing up extra supply of US batteries for SOMETHING after all- could easily be that- insuring all US made cells go into US sold cars to max credit availability.
Tesla is a rodeo worth getting onto. 2024 will see Ford ack full defeat in US market
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ggapropros
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from geoffkin :
You may or may not know everything about mines and oil, but you FOR SURE know almost nothing about EVs. NO ONE charges their car at PEAK times, it costs too much.. Those 20% EVs charging will be overnight when it's cheap, when there is a big excess of electricity..
Stanknasty is probably a descendant of a long line of anachronistic people who cant wrap their head around anything new

Im sure his great grandfather insisted that getting gas for cars would never work. he has a whole barn full of 100lbs of hay for his horse.. why would he ever get a gas car where he has to go to a gas station?

why would i plug my car in at night and use cheap electricity when i can instead just drive an extra 10 mins out of my way every week trying to find the cheapest gas stations?
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Kachur
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Is it worth upgrading my 2016 golf with under 40K miles to this? I WFH and drive under 5K a year. Will miss standard transmission though
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sqa4life
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from redcashmere :
Apparently quite a few do OTAs.

https://electrek.co/2022/06/07/ov...r-compare/
how reliable are they?
just like there are so many Electrify America that works 50% of the time :-)

Tesla pushes out OTA software updates every few weeks and keeps improving the car. It's the same as Apple.
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kipper99
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Quote from ggapropros :
Stanknasty is probably a descendant of a long line of anachronistic people who cant wrap their head around anything new

Im sure his great grandfather insisted that getting gas for cars would never work. he has a whole barn full of 100lbs of hay for his horse.. why would he ever get a gas car where he has to go to a gas station?

why would i plug my car in at night and use cheap electricity when i can instead just drive an extra 10 mins out of my way every week trying to find the cheapest gas stations?
So, in order for you to travel today you need to prepare the day before?
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aifan
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Quote from Shushera :
Is it worth upgrading my 2016 golf with under 40K miles to this? I WFH and drive under 5K a year. Will miss standard transmission though
Only because you "want" to upgrade. 5k miles per year is so low and vehicles are depreciating assets. Not really an EV discussion either. More of a question of "needing" a new car vs "wanting" a new car.
Last edited by aifan June 4, 2023 at 04:13 PM.

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WeekendVampire
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Quote from JohnK9681 :
Thought it was 3k. Did it change recently?
I stand corrected, it is $3K...sorry!
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rKhayd
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Quote from mrmochi :
Not to mention insanely expensive insurance and
Huh? The insurance for our M3LR and MYLR costs $200 a month, which is much lower than what we had to pay before with ICE cars.
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Kachur
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Quote from rKhayd :
Huh? The insurance for our M3LR and MYLR costs $200 a month, which is much lower than what we had to pay before with ICE cars.
Currently paying $100 a month for two cars and umbrella insurance. Not sure why ppl pay so much
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rKhayd
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Quote from Shushera :
Currently paying $100 a month for two cars and umbrella insurance. Not sure why ppl pay so much
I live in NorCal, so we have a lot of uninsured illegals on the road.
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NiceGuyFinishLast
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from Shushera :
Currently paying $100 a month for two cars and umbrella insurance. Not sure why ppl pay so much
Is this for basic min req 15k/30k or 100k/300k? Insurance can differ state to state too.
Jun 4, 2023
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felixbball28
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from Rawimpact :
You want tax payers in California to subsidize your premium vehicle purchase without disclosing your income? This is why people in CA are leaving…
Where did the poster say anything about not disclosing income? I'm a little annoyed as well that there are rather low income limits on this. California is expensive to live in and a $150K (the cap) standard of living in CA is much lower than it is elsewhere.

Why am I subsidizing people who potentially: a) have no financial business buying a brand new car or b) people who can kite their income to fall below $150k on paper

And now they're discussing electric bills being income based--its a little crazy.
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Creon
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Quote from quickstart88 :
Coming up in 5 yrs. Just cabin air filter, windshield fluids and tires rotation. Yes still oem tires. Don't drive much but it's the best darn car I have ever owed
How's the battery capacity now?

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quickstart88
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Quote from Creon :
How's the battery capacity now?
297 range. Not bad

Motor rated for 1 million miles
NCA or NMA pack for a 78 kilowatts has a 3000 charge cycle. 3000 x 300 (miles per cycle) close to 900,000 miles
Not sure about LFP.
Not sure about standard range pack. Those are 50 kilowatts pack.
Last edited by quickstart88 June 4, 2023 at 05:08 PM.

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