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expired Posted by tDames | Staff • Jun 6, 2023
expired Posted by tDames | Staff • Jun 6, 2023

20TB Seagate Exos X20 7200RPM 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive (Recertified) $235 + Free Shipping

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ServerPartDeals [serverpartdeals.com] has 20TB Seagate Exos X20 7200RPM 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive (Recertified; ST20000NM007D) on sale for $234.99. Shipping is free.

Note: Condition - Manufacturer Recertified : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty
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ServerPartDeals [serverpartdeals.com] has 20TB Seagate Exos X20 7200RPM 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive (Recertified; ST20000NM007D) on sale for $234.99. Shipping is free.

Note: Condition - Manufacturer Recertified : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty

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Jul 21, 2023
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dclive
Jul 21, 2023
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Quote from MrMonopoly :
What am I missing? Hardware seems too expensive to me. It would use all my hard drive budget.
I got my DS423 for $369-something, and my DS923+ for $425-something (or around there…). Can't beat 'em. Amazon for both.

Yes, I paid $100 for the DS923+ 10GBe NIC. Aside from that being a bit high (aftermarket 10GBe NIC for ESXi PC was just $70 or so), I'm very happy. Rock solid. DS423+ for Plex, DS923+ for ESXi environment. Both work great.
Jul 29, 2023
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Jul 29, 2023
InstanceNoodle
Jul 29, 2023
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Quote from MrMonopoly :
What am I missing? Hardware seems too expensive to me. It would use all my hard drive budget.
Easy to use. Low wattage. Software works more fluidly after update vs other software.

I use omv, trunas, unraid, synology. Look for upgrade problems from each.

I would recommend unraid for poor people starting out. You can use any size drives and able to spin up one drive at a time. Trunas spin up all drives anytime you write, and you need all the same size drive in a pool, and you have one time to set the pool. Use intel 11th gen or newer for video.

When buying synology, I would advise buying at least 4 bays for shr2. So when 1 died you and you need to replace, you would still have another parity. Do not buy one with atom cpu. There is an atom bug that kill your nas. I bought a ryzen synology and a n100 beelink to run plex server, emby server, and jellyfin server. I bought $20 onn 4k plug for TV (av1 decoder). I am still testing the onn, plex transcoding, stash, and see on the go watching.
Jul 29, 2023
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Azrael_the_Cat
Jul 29, 2023
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Quote from dclive :
$235, refurb, 2 year (seller, not Seagate) warranty.

Vs.

$290, new, 5 year warranty, via Seagate. (NewEgg)

I went with new.
Too bad you spent 20% for 3years of maybe. Fear is a powerful motivator so who can blame you.

At a 2-3% year over year failure rate it could work out in your favor...
Jul 29, 2023
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Azrael_the_Cat
Jul 29, 2023
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Quote from BillK :
I tend to always go with the 5 year warranty on these. WD or Seagate. They almost never make it to EOL, so the warranty replacement is worth it IMHO
Are you hitting them with a hammer? That's so unlikely.

Sanity check: they would be out of business if the cost of the warranty wasn't in their favor.
Jul 29, 2023
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Azrael_the_Cat
Jul 29, 2023
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Quote from huaqiangbei :
What causes drives for people to fail so frequently? What am I missing? I have multiple drives going on 10 years without failure. Are the drives that fail constantly reading/writing or something?
Misuse or hallucinations. People remember the bad not the good. If a guy had one bad drive he will belch "Seagate is the devil"

You'll notice that none of the people crap talking about refurbs or buying longer warranties ever refer to legitimate statistical data for the product or the industry.

what you see in these forums is a high amount of bias. not sure it's survivor bias since it's basically the opposite LOL
Last edited by Asrael July 29, 2023 at 09:23 AM.
Jul 29, 2023
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Azrael_the_Cat
Jul 29, 2023
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Quote from eversavage :
was the 14tb from serverpartdeals or newegg and I'm assuming its Seagate drive?

what test did you run before using it?
I'm asking bc i just bought two drives and wonder if i should be worried ..
I have 2 drives from last year with no issues. So the statistics would say your odds are 50/50 now LOL.
Jul 29, 2023
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dclive
Jul 29, 2023
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Quote from Asrael :
Too bad you spent 20% for 3years of maybe. Fear is a powerful motivator so who can blame you.

At a 2-3% year over year failure rate it could work out in your favor...
So your suggestion is that an already-failed part from the refurb place is as reliable as a drive that's not failed and has the 2-3% failure incidence rate?

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Jul 31, 2023
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Azrael_the_Cat
Jul 31, 2023
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Quote from dclive :
So your suggestion is that an already-failed part from the refurb place is as reliable as a drive that's not failed and has the 2-3% failure incidence rate?
yes that is correct. I would suggest you review bathtub reliability curves.

This is one of the reasons why high reliability products for military. aerospace and medical applications are "burned in"

A (properly) repaired/refurbished item will generally (and statistically) have a higher reliability than new, assuming it is still within the tub portion of the bathtub lifetime reliability curve.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve

most electronics and electromechanical systems of any import or consumer use follow these curves

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