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Bambu Lab P1P 3D Printer

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$599

$699

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Bambu Lab has Bambu Lab P1P 3D Printer for $599. Shipping is $25.

Thanks to Community Member MBaran for posting this deal.

Features:
  • Out of the Box printing experience. Set up in 15 minutes.
  • High-speed CoreXY structure with 20000 mm/s² acceleration.
  • Upgradeable and customizable to make your unique printer. Multi-color capability.
  • State-of-the-art electronics, including vibration compensation, pressure advance, Wifi connection, and camera.

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Bambu Lab has Bambu Lab P1P 3D Printer for $599. Shipping is $25.

Thanks to Community Member MBaran for posting this deal.

Features:
  • Out of the Box printing experience. Set up in 15 minutes.
  • High-speed CoreXY structure with 20000 mm/s² acceleration.
  • Upgradeable and customizable to make your unique printer. Multi-color capability.
  • State-of-the-art electronics, including vibration compensation, pressure advance, Wifi connection, and camera.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion. -StrawMan86

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darkfire1664
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This is their cheaper option, not the one that came on Kickstarter. This printer is amazing, haven't turned my prusa on in months because this is just so much faster. Just ordered my second one so feel free to ask any questions.
Liquidsilver
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I'm confused by this, as Bambu has undercut the competition on pricing (Prusa), and delivered a more advanced machine as well. How is that like Dyson?
MBaran
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Also, didn't Dyson basically invent the high powered stick vacuum market and pretty consistently win performance tests against both traditional vaccums as well as other cheaper models?

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Jun 26, 2023 05:06 PM
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big819Jun 26, 2023 05:06 PM
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common give a discount for the X1C too!
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Jun 26, 2023 05:15 PM
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shimian5
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Quote from big819 :
common give a discount for the X1C too!
People say the LIDAR isn't that good. Just get a P1P and and an AMS and spend the rest on filament.
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Quote from Liquidsilver :
I'm confused by this, as Bambu has undercut the competition on pricing (Prusa), and delivered a more advanced machine as well. How is that like Dyson?
Also, didn't Dyson basically invent the high powered stick vacuum market and pretty consistently win performance tests against both traditional vaccums as well as other cheaper models?
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Jun 26, 2023 05:17 PM
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threeclawsJun 26, 2023 05:17 PM
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Quote from tedzhu :
Is this the most overhyped 3d printer of all time? $1k MSRP, $700 kickstarter, tons of marketing in every website & youtube channel. Now at $600. Does it not sell?
Nah prusa is overhyped, they even tricked me, but the bambu is a solid printer that would be great for anybody looking to move up from an ender 3 (or similar.) My guess is, and they say as much, that they are reducing the price because costs have gone down (something else prusa could learn.)
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Jun 26, 2023 05:19 PM
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ben_r_Jun 26, 2023 05:19 PM
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I see a lot of reviews mention the X1 vs the X1 Carbon, but it doesn't look like the X1 non-Carbon is available anymore. Which is interesting because at this current pricing, you can buy two P1P models for much less than one X1 Carbon.
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Jun 26, 2023 06:38 PM
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MeatballsJonesJun 26, 2023 06:38 PM
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Quote from Shop_shop_Shop :
These new "speed wars" are so much like the megapixel wars of the yesteryear, but it was just a marketing trap all along.

When you keep cramming more megapixels into the same sensor you reduce the overall size of each pixel and your light sensitivity takes a nosedive, so you end up with the worse image quality than before.

The end of those wars was marked by the release of the first ever digital full-frame camera, the Nikon D700, with a sensor that was easily 20 times bigger than the ones inside of the average point-and-shoot camera of that time and yet it was only... 12 megapixels. It was an instant hit. That was the moment when everyone got wise to the fact that they were getting played and the mpx count meant very little.

Same thing here. The bottlenecks are all same as before and they're not how fast you can move the nozzle.

When you print really fast you have to cool really fast, so there's hardly any time for the material to bind to itself. The result is much, much weaker parts. Probably not a big deal if all you print is figurines, but for everything else you can expect a rude awakening.

That's why I sold my Ender 5s1 and can't say I miss it since my "slow" XL printers with .8 nozzles can extrude the same amount of material in an hour as a really fast printer with a .4 nozzle and not even break a sweat.

Unfortunately you can't just add a .8 nozzle to a fast printer and go even faster, so the tortoise ends up beating the hare.

That being said, I do want a really fast enclosed XL printer, so I've been waiting for either the K1 Max or the Bambu Max/Plus/Big Kahuna. My guess is that's what's in store for us, so I'm holding.
Not even close, cooling is probably at the bottom of the list. In terms of bottleneck, you probably hit volumetric flow rate before you hit cooling. Depending on the filament, sometimes you don't even need the part cooling fan on.
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desantmaJun 26, 2023 06:42 PM
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All the haters hating on the price, but there's a reason almost every print farm business is making the switch over to Bambu printers. Their parts are cheaper than most of the competition regardless of closed/open source and their print speeds and reliability in printing seem to be a huge selling point for businesses printing hour on hour.

I am grateful I started with traditional Creality bed slinger, I still spent about $350 for the printer and a sonic pad, and I've made the argument it's the best way to start in printing as there is a large learning curve and you really do need to know the basics. The Bambu kind of jumps over all that and starts you about 80% of the way there. You still have to know how to slice a file and load filament, but you skip over so much else like bed leveling, z height adjustment, creating a mesh, tuning your PID, E-Steps, input shaping, pressure advance, and understanding acceleration and speeds etc.

That said, I look forward to picking up an X1C, it's time I graduate to something a little less finicky. I wouldn't sell my Creality printer though, it's a good little machine and the countless hours I've spent tuning it, it's pretty reliable.

Now if Bambu had just added a nice little coupon for the X1C I would have pulled the trigger today.
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Jun 26, 2023 06:53 PM
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DougLife_Jun 26, 2023 06:53 PM
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I have been waiting for a sale but of course caved in and bought a P1P this past Saturday... let's see if I can get a price adjustment.
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Shop_shop_ShopJun 26, 2023 07:25 PM
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Quote from MeatballsJones :
Not even close, cooling is probably at the bottom of the list. In terms of bottleneck, you probably hit volumetric flow rate before you hit cooling. Depending on the filament, sometimes you don't even need the part cooling fan on.
I don't think I said what you think I said.
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Jun 26, 2023 07:29 PM
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R3TRIBUTIONJun 26, 2023 07:29 PM
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Wow, one of the most popular high speed printers on the market. I'm assuming they are about to release a newer version.
Last edited by R3TRIBUTION June 26, 2023 at 01:07 PM.
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Jun 26, 2023 07:30 PM
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MeatballsJonesJun 26, 2023 07:30 PM
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Quote from Shop_shop_Shop :
I don't think I said what you think I said.
Please explain.
Jun 26, 2023 07:39 PM
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Shop_shop_ShopJun 26, 2023 07:39 PM
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Quote from desantma :
All the haters hating on the price, but there's a reason almost every print farm business is making the switch over to Bambu printers. Their parts are cheaper than most of the competition regardless of closed/open source and their print speeds and reliability in printing seem to be a huge selling point for businesses printing hour on hour.

I am grateful I started with traditional Creality bed slinger, I still spent about $350 for the printer and a sonic pad, and I've made the argument it's the best way to start in printing as there is a large learning curve and you really do need to know the basics. The Bambu kind of jumps over all that and starts you about 80% of the way there. You still have to know how to slice a file and load filament, but you skip over so much else like bed leveling, z height adjustment, creating a mesh, tuning your PID, E-Steps, input shaping, pressure advance, and understanding acceleration and speeds etc.

That said, I look forward to picking up an X1C, it's time I graduate to something a little less finicky. I wouldn't sell my Creality printer though, it's a good little machine and the countless hours I've spent tuning it, it's pretty reliable.

Now if Bambu had just added a nice little coupon for the X1C I would have pulled the trigger today.
Wait, so if all you want is reliability, consistency and ease of use then wouldn't the P1P be all those things? You said nothing about printing with exotics or mentioned anything else that requires you to get the X1C, so why would you want to pay double?
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notaekJun 26, 2023 07:41 PM
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Read their 1 year anniversary post: https://blog.bambulab.com/bambu-lab-anniversary/

More details on the price cut, it sounds permanent:
Quote :
After examining the financial statements and the market competition landscape, my conclusion is that we have to push a step further to keep up. This is why we will reduce the price of our Bambu Lab P1P by around 100 dollars (on all stores), to make it more accessible for people who are looking to get one of our printers and share the 3D printing passion with us. We are also discounting the X1C, X1CC and AMS in our EU and UK stores, after taking into account our operational and shipping costs.
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Jun 26, 2023 07:43 PM
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Shop_shop_ShopJun 26, 2023 07:43 PM
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Quote from MeatballsJones :
Please explain.
I said that fast printing speeds and fast cooling affect how the material binds to itself. Meaning at those speeds the filament itself is the bottleneck.
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