Amazon[amazon.com] has for Prime Members: Creality Sonic Pad (Klipper Screen) on sale for $118
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How's this not upvoted more? I pulled the trigger before even seeing this post. It's pretty crazy how much value you're actually getting here for $120, especially since you can run several printers with just one device.
How's this not upvoted more? I pulled the trigger before even seeing this post. It's pretty crazy how much value you're actually getting here for $120, especially since you can run several printers with just one device.
For $120 you can buy a mini pc that is significantly faster, has more ram and more storage that can run Klipper along with loads of other stuff, and you can use an old phone or tablet for a screen. The price only looks good if you're stuck in the mindset of overpriced RPis or don't want to install it yourself.
For $120 you can buy a mini pc that is significantly faster, has more ram and more storage that can run Klipper along with loads of other stuff, and you can use an old phone or tablet for a screen. The price only looks good if you're stuck in the mindset of overpriced RPis or don't want to install it yourself.
I was actually almost through the process of setting it up on a couple of dusty old windows laptops that first had to be switched over to linux. I was already in for a lot more hours than I expected because first I had to try a few different linux distros, figure out linux server, then Kiauh, each laptop seemed to have a mind of its own which was also slowing things down.
The next step was to figure out actual Klipper and install the firmware, but you still have to buy the motion sensor, so it's not completely free lunch either way. Then if something wasn't working right I'd have to troubleshoot until I was blue in the face since I have so many pieces of unfamiliar tech in play.
Anyway, at $120 with the sensor included this made a lot more sense than at $170, plus three of my printers are Creality and my personal time is worth something too I guess. I will finish this set up eventually since I have printers in several different spaces, but for now I just want to remove as many variables as possible during the steepest part of the learning curve.
I was actually almost through the process of setting it up on a couple of dusty old windows laptops that first had to be switched over to linux. I was already in for a lot more hours than I expected because first I had to try a few different linux distros, figure out linux server, then Kiauh, each laptop seemed to have a mind of its own which was also slowing things down.
The next step was to figure out actual Klipper and install the firmware, but you still have to buy the motion sensor, so it's not completely free lunch either way. Then if something wasn't working right I'd have to troubleshoot until I was blue in the face since I have so many pieces of unfamiliar tech in play.
Anyway, at $120 with the sensor included this made a lot more sense than at $170, plus three of my printers are Creality and my personal time is worth something too I guess. I will finish this set up eventually since I have printers in several different spaces, but for now I just want to remove as many variables as possible during the steepest part of the learning curve.
Sure if you just want a plug and play device for Creality printers it makes sense. You were talking about value and why it's not upvoted and I'm saying it's worth maybe $60-70 to someone who knows what they're doing already or doesn't mind figuring it out. If you value time over money it'd make more sense to go with a faster more plug and play printer than the Creality printers that this supports out of the box. It's just a weird middle ground paying $120 to upgrade old printers. You can DIY everything this does for cheap while expensive devices like Bambu Labs and K1 exist and don't require you to do stuff like accelerometer and pressure advance tuning manually at all. You even have new printers with Klipper pre-installed that are under $300.
Sure if you just want a plug and play device for Creality printers it makes sense. You were talking about value and why it's not upvoted and I'm saying it's worth maybe $60-70 to someone who knows what they're doing already or doesn't mind figuring it out. If you value time over money it'd make more sense to go with a faster more plug and play printer than the Creality printers that this supports out of the box. It's just a weird middle ground paying $120 to upgrade old printers. You can DIY everything this does for cheap while expensive devices like Bambu Labs and K1 exist and don't require you to do stuff like accelerometer and pressure advance tuning manually at all. You even have new printers with Klipper pre-installed that are under $300.
That's very true as long as you don't mind the smallish build plate. If you need an L/XL printer then you can't just buy one with Klipper preinstalled, yet. The price will also be much higher than what I paid for my "old" printers plus the Pad.
Btw, any of those new "fast" printers running Klipper are just one-trick ponies when it comes to the choice of filament. Good luck printing Nylon or Polycarbonates or even your basic PETG at 300mm/s. PLA is 100% a prototyping filament and it's super annoying that most people see it as this universal material meant to satisfy all of your printing needs.
The truth is it just sucks on so many levels compared to almost everything else. Even the story about how easy it is to print is a throwback to the olden days when people were printing with ABS on printers that were literally made out of plywood. It's actually not easy to print since a heated bed, a fan and the z-offset dialed in to 0.05mm are all mandatory. It also shrinks and lifts if you cool it too much and it strings almost as bad as PETG when it's wet. What's so easy about any of that?
In my experience the best way to double your printing speed is to buy another printer. Going faster and making your weak PLA prints even weaker is more of a double-whammy than a win.
That's very true as long as you don't mind the smallish build plate. If you need an L/XL printer then you can't just buy one with Klipper preinstalled, yet. The price will also be much higher than what I paid for my "old" printers plus the Pad.
Btw, any of those new "fast" printers running Klipper are just one-trick ponies when it comes to the choice of filament. Good luck printing Nylon or Polycarbonates or even your basic PETG at 300mm/s. PLA is 100% a prototyping filament and it's super annoying that most people see it as this universal material meant to satisfy all of your printing needs.
Sure but why are you spending money on Klipper if you need to be printing slowly on a bedslinger with a big heavy build plate anyways. It won't help any more than the cheap Klipper printers. Just get another cheap $120 printer or spend the money on upgrades that help with PC and Nylon. Anycubic Kobra Neo is just $12 more than this thing.
Sure but why are you spending money on Klipper if you need to be printing slowly on a bedslinger with a big heavy build plate anyways. It won't help any more than the cheap Klipper printers. Just get another cheap $120 printer or spend the money on upgrades that help with PC and Nylon. Anycubic Kobra Neo is just $12 more than this thing.
Oh, the speed is just one of many awesome features of Klipper. I definitely wouldn't do it for the speed alone, even though I do plan on supercharging my designated PLA prototyper.
When you have multiples of different brands of printers it really saves a lot of headache if they all run on the same firmware that accepts new parameters midprint over the same network, with crazy amounts of customization, custom macros, improved print quality, etc, etc.
I think that's the true value of Klipper. The fast speed is just what sells it to the masses. For someone who wants to control everything from everywhere it's a whole new dimension. Effectiveness and efficiency matter more than the speed. That's why I'm saying don't waste your money on the new gen stuff just because it's shiny, like the P1P. I'd rather spend that same money on the two "old" and thus discounted CR-10 Smart Pros and have the build plate real estate and the printing capacity that the P1P could never even dream of.
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Oh, the speed is just one of many awesome features of Klipper. I definitely wouldn't do it for the speed alone, even though I do plan on supercharging my designated PLA prototyper.
When you have multiples of different brands of printers it really saves a lot of headache if they all run on the same firmware that accepts new parameters midprint over the same network, with crazy amounts of customization, custom macros, improved print quality, etc, etc.
I think that's the true value of Klipper. The fast speed is just what sells it to the masses. For someone who wants to control everything from everywhere it's a whole new dimension. Effectiveness and efficiency matter more than the speed. That's why I'm saying don't waste your money on the new gen stuff just because it's shiny, like the P1P. I'd rather spend that same money on the two "old" and thus discounted CR-10 Smart Pros and have the build plate real estate and the printing capacity that the P1P could never even dream of.
Be the turtle, not the hare.
Octoprint's been around forever and you can even install it on Windows if figuring out installing Linux on a laptop was keeping you from DIYing Klipper.
Octoprint's been around forever and you can even install it on Windows if figuring out installing Linux on a laptop was keeping you from DIYing Klipper.
That's pretty genius! Looks like exactly what I needed. I'll start learning it as soon as I get refunded for the Sonic Pad and buy the Anycubic Kobra Neo for $12 more. I just wish someone would show me how to turn on the damn laptop already, so I don't run into the same issues. I thought if I stick a disk with Linux into the CD drive it would auto-start it somehow, but no luck. Do you happen to know if I'm supposed to check its battery level since it's been sitting unused for a few years?
That's pretty genius! Looks like exactly what I needed. I'll start learning it as soon as I get refunded for the Sonic Pad and buy the Anycubic Kobra Neo for $12 more. I just wish someone would show me how to turn on the damn laptop already, so I don't run into the same issues. I thought if I stick a disk with Linux into the CD drive it would auto-start it somehow, but no luck. Do you happen to know if I'm supposed to check its battery level since it's been sitting unused for a few years?
Nah sounds like Sonic Pad was just perfect for you. Hope you end up figuring out why no one else upvoted this deal in 2 days. Must be voodoo.
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The next step was to figure out actual Klipper and install the firmware, but you still have to buy the motion sensor, so it's not completely free lunch either way. Then if something wasn't working right I'd have to troubleshoot until I was blue in the face since I have so many pieces of unfamiliar tech in play.
Anyway, at $120 with the sensor included this made a lot more sense than at $170, plus three of my printers are Creality and my personal time is worth something too I guess. I will finish this set up eventually since I have printers in several different spaces, but for now I just want to remove as many variables as possible during the steepest part of the learning curve.
The next step was to figure out actual Klipper and install the firmware, but you still have to buy the motion sensor, so it's not completely free lunch either way. Then if something wasn't working right I'd have to troubleshoot until I was blue in the face since I have so many pieces of unfamiliar tech in play.
Anyway, at $120 with the sensor included this made a lot more sense than at $170, plus three of my printers are Creality and my personal time is worth something too I guess. I will finish this set up eventually since I have printers in several different spaces, but for now I just want to remove as many variables as possible during the steepest part of the learning curve.
Btw, any of those new "fast" printers running Klipper are just one-trick ponies when it comes to the choice of filament. Good luck printing Nylon or Polycarbonates or even your basic PETG at 300mm/s. PLA is 100% a prototyping filament and it's super annoying that most people see it as this universal material meant to satisfy all of your printing needs.
The truth is it just sucks on so many levels compared to almost everything else. Even the story about how easy it is to print is a throwback to the olden days when people were printing with ABS on printers that were literally made out of plywood. It's actually not easy to print since a heated bed, a fan and the z-offset dialed in to 0.05mm are all mandatory. It also shrinks and lifts if you cool it too much and it strings almost as bad as PETG when it's wet. What's so easy about any of that?
In my experience the best way to double your printing speed is to buy another printer. Going faster and making your weak PLA prints even weaker is more of a double-whammy than a win.
Btw, any of those new "fast" printers running Klipper are just one-trick ponies when it comes to the choice of filament. Good luck printing Nylon or Polycarbonates or even your basic PETG at 300mm/s. PLA is 100% a prototyping filament and it's super annoying that most people see it as this universal material meant to satisfy all of your printing needs.
When you have multiples of different brands of printers it really saves a lot of headache if they all run on the same firmware that accepts new parameters midprint over the same network, with crazy amounts of customization, custom macros, improved print quality, etc, etc.
I think that's the true value of Klipper. The fast speed is just what sells it to the masses. For someone who wants to control everything from everywhere it's a whole new dimension. Effectiveness and efficiency matter more than the speed. That's why I'm saying don't waste your money on the new gen stuff just because it's shiny, like the P1P. I'd rather spend that same money on the two "old" and thus discounted CR-10 Smart Pros and have the build plate real estate and the printing capacity that the P1P could never even dream of.
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When you have multiples of different brands of printers it really saves a lot of headache if they all run on the same firmware that accepts new parameters midprint over the same network, with crazy amounts of customization, custom macros, improved print quality, etc, etc.
I think that's the true value of Klipper. The fast speed is just what sells it to the masses. For someone who wants to control everything from everywhere it's a whole new dimension. Effectiveness and efficiency matter more than the speed. That's why I'm saying don't waste your money on the new gen stuff just because it's shiny, like the P1P. I'd rather spend that same money on the two "old" and thus discounted CR-10 Smart Pros and have the build plate real estate and the printing capacity that the P1P could never even dream of.
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