Why is this is better than an ETF treasury fund, CDs, and high-interest savings accounts?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is state & local tax-free on the money earned. So if you're in a high-income tax state and city they're worth it.ETF fund aren't always 100% in treasuries and charge fees.
Question (asked a dozen or more times in the thread) : How does bill interest work?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is the difference between face value and purchase price. You buy a $10k bill at less than $10k, upon maturity, it is worth $10k. The difference between purchase price and maturity value is your "interest."
Tax Equivalent Yield Calculator For Savings Bonds, Treasury Bills, and Tax-Exempt Money Market Funds
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How Buy and Sell Treasury Bills
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When are the auctions? When can I place an order?
4, 8, 13, 17, and 26 week bills are auctioned every week.
52 week bills are auctioned every four weeks.
You can see recent results and the planned schedule at: https://www.treasurydir
4 and 8 week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Thursday, and settle on Tuesday.
17 and week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Wednesday, and settle on Tuesday.
13 and 26 week bills are usually announced on Thursday, auctioned on Monday, and settle on Thursday.
52 week bills are usually announced every 4th Thursday, auctioned on Tuesday, and settle on Thursday.
At a brokerage, you can usually can place an order between the announcement and auction.
At TreasuryDirect, you can place an order up to about 8 weeks in advance.
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Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.
Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.
On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.
FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.
The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.
The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.
Good luck to everyone!
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Is it too late to take advantage?
Is it too late to take advantage?
Rates change over time. Bills up to six months are auctioned weekly, and existing bills can be purchased at a brokerage at any time the bond market is open.
How to purchase and the details have been discussed several times, and there are further details in the thread wiki.
Is there anything else you want to know?
Rates change over time. Bills up to six months are auctioned weekly, and existing bills can be purchased at a brokerage at any time the bond market is open.
How to purchase and the details have been discussed several times, and there are further details in the thread wiki.
Is there anything else you want to know?
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The question is that generally the settlement dates of 8/14/2023 the bonds disappear in new issue and then can only be purchased on secondary market but today they are still available to buy as of this writing (4.34PM) and I am not sure why or whats wrong in my thinking. I am adding these to my parents IRA accounts in part as a fixed income for at least a year noted above for the 6.3% rate.
Shahhere
If its not Treasury then Fidelity is the best option for new and secondary based on the listings and the fees. I have IRAs for my folks in Vanguard and they charge a $1 or other secondary fees that I can easily avoid and so even opened up new Fidelity accounts last week just to not pay that.
Shahhere
They paid a management company and despite paying fees they were only at about 2.3% growth for the last 5 years and am helping simplify a lot of what they own myself and getting my own education up around all of this including Bonds/Bills etc.
Shahhere
They paid a management company and despite paying fees they were only at about 2.3% growth for the last 5 years and am helping simplify a lot of what they own myself and getting my own education up around all of this including Bonds/Bills etc.
Shahhere
Because your parents financials are not the same as anybody else's, you'll have to do your own research.
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Care to elaborate ?
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