expiredcybertronicify posted Aug 12, 2023 10:41 PM
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expiredcybertronicify posted Aug 12, 2023 10:41 PM
FIRMAN W01682F 2000/1600W Recoil Start Inverter Generator (Refurbished)
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You can charge Ecoflow Delta Pro using solar panels, or using your car's 12 volts. Or go to EV charging stations and charge it for an hour.
For 48 hrs of no electricity, you will need around 5 gallons of gas to continously run your generator whether you plug anything or not.
You can also use your EDPro at night inside your house and not to worry about theft. Your generator has to run outside, isn't it? Also, you wake up at night, would you go outside to turn on your generator just for a light? Isn't that very inconvenient?
Again, not saying this or that is better. You need to have both.
So at night, do you go outside and turn on your generator just to charge your phone and have a light?
Are you comfortable leaving your gas generator outside for thieves to steal at night? Remember, during crisis, calamities etc people want to steal things.
Not sure why people here are so triggered defending their gas generator. I am not saying it is bad, it's just that there are things it can't do that the other can with great convenience.
Again, not saying this or that is better. You need to have both.
So at night, do you go outside and turn on your generator just to charge your phone and have a light?
Are you comfortable leaving your gas generator outside for thieves to steal at night? Remember, during crisis, calamities etc people want to steal things.
Not sure why people here are so triggered defending their gas generator. I am not saying it is bad, it's just that there are things it can't do that the other can with great convenience.
Again, not saying this or that is better. You need to have both.
And yes, I run the fridges for a few hours, charge my battery banks, devices, etc and turn off the generator when not needed. And when it's off I indeed bring it inside my garage. Or you can build a generator hut and chain it to concrete anchors, super common.
For 1 Gallon of gas, it will only last you 9 hrs whether you plug just your phone or not. The Ecoflow Delta Pro can retain its charge for months if you only want to use it to charge your phone or other mini but critical electronic devices.
You can use Ecoflow Delta Pro during nighttime when you want quiet nights. You really don't want to go outside at night and turn on your gas generator just for a light, right?
There are campsites where you cannot use gas generators.
On a road trip, would you be able to turn your gas generator inside your car?
Ther are many pros and cons of both: they actually do not compete with each other; you have to have both as the other guy said. They complement each other not compete each other.
Again, like I said, I am not here to say this or that is better.
I have looked long and hard into the large battery solution, but in the end you are comparing a $200 product with a $4000 product. Apples and orange. if you are going to talk expensive big battery vs generator you have to at least compare it to a much bigger generator which will 1.) have a much bigger gas tank 2.) LP and NG options which will make runtime much longer or limitless (with NG) and 3.) 240V which will allow it to run home AC units.
But if you are truly comparing products they should be in the same price range. A $200 battery is not going to do much compared to this generator.
So at night, do you go outside and turn on your generator just to charge your phone and have a light?
Are you comfortable leaving your gas generator outside for thieves to steal at night? Remember, during crisis, calamities etc people want to steal things.
Not sure why people here are so triggered defending their gas generator. I am not saying it is bad, it's just that there are things it can't do that the other can with great convenience.
Again, not saying this or that is better. You need to have both.
25% of 1600w is 400w.
So, in 9 hours continuous run at 400w, you extracted. 3600wh of energy
So, 1 gallon ($5 per gallon) can give you 3600wh.
Now compare this to Ecoflow Delta Pro. If it's fully charged, it has 3600wh stored energy. How much does it cost to fully charge it?
Say 25 cents per kwh.. so you will only spend less than a dollar to fully charge an Ecoflow Delta Pro and you will get the same amount of energy stored.
Summary:
1 gallon gets you 3600wh of energy using this generator. That's $5.
If you fully charge an Ecoflow Delta Pro, you also get to store 3600wh of energy, but you will only spend less than a dollar. Free if you charge it using solar.
PS:
This is just a rough calculation. There are many other things to consider such as Efficiency and they are not factored in. Also, consider the price of each. Not saying this or that is better, I am just showing comparison.
So at night, do you go outside and turn on your generator just to charge your phone and have a light?
Are you comfortable leaving your gas generator outside for thieves to steal at night? Remember, during crisis, calamities etc people want to steal things.
Not sure why people here are so triggered defending their gas generator. I am not saying it is bad, it's just that there are things it can't do that the other can with great convenience.
Again, not saying this or that is better. You need to have both.
Bottom line...I am SO sick and tired of the random troll post on SD that says nothing about a deal and elicits a ton of responses and end up doing absolutely no good for anyone.
First, we have the post on the power station thread about how solar is not the future just because it's cloudy all the time where he lives. Now we have this in a generator thread. SD needs to have a better way of shutting these posts down.
Get a life, folks.
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And yes, I run the fridges for a few hours, charge my battery banks, devices, etc and turn off the generator when not needed. And when it's off I indeed bring it inside my garage. Or you can build a generator hut and chain it to concrete anchors, super common.
The 5gallon can is $10 but you have to have gasoline in it to be meaningful which is $25.
Come dude. Think.
You can chain your generator, put cage etc but it will still be noisier, it produces fumes, etc and the inconvenience of starting it when you need it.
Like I said, you need both.
I have looked long and hard into the large battery solution, but in the end you are comparing a $200 product with a $5000 product. Apples and orange. if you are going to talk expensive big battery vs generator you have to at least compare it to a much bigger generator which will 1.) have a much bigger gas tank 2.) LP and NG options which will make runtime much longer or limitless (with NG) and 3.) 240V which will allow it to run home AC units.
But if you are truly comparing products they should be in the same price range. A $200 battery is not going to do much compared to this generator.
Both have pros and cons. We need both.
So at night, do you go outside and turn on your generator just to charge your phone and have a light?
Are you comfortable leaving your gas generator outside for thieves to steal at night? Remember, during crisis, calamities etc people want to steal things.
Not sure why people here are so triggered defending their gas generator. I am not saying it is bad, it's just that there are things it can't do that the other can with great convenience.
Again, not saying this or that is better. You need to have both.
Bottom line...I am SO sick and tired of the random troll post on SD that says nothing about a deal and elicits a ton of responses and end up doing absolutely no good for anyone.
Get a life, folks.
All I did was the math of it and you guys are going crazy because of it.
All I did was the math of it and you guys are going crazy because of it.
And AGAIN, just because you said in the end "not saying one is better than the other" doesn't mean you are not trying to imply it.
Not sure why people are so hostile here. I just did the math, and you did not like it.
I did not lost the argument, I was never in that argument. You are just forcing me to be on just the Ecoflow side.
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Not sure why people are so hostile here. I just did the math, and you did not like it.
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