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expiredGoldenLiberty posted Aug 23, 2023 04:59 PM
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GameSir G7 SE Wired Controller for Xbox Series X|S, One & PC with Hall Effect Joysticks/Hall Trigger $44.99

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No more stick drift!!! (supposedly)

3rd Party, Xbox Licensed wired Xbox controller with Hall Sensor Joysticks and back buttons. As much as I enjoy my Xbox, these controllers have Hall Sensors which fix the stick drift problem plaguing OEM controllers from Microsoft.

Pros: Include many features similar to the Elite Series plus hall sensors
Cons: Wired

https://www.amazon.com/GameSir-Co...B0C7GW9F88
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No more stick drift!!! (supposedly)

3rd Party, Xbox Licensed wired Xbox controller with Hall Sensor Joysticks and back buttons. As much as I enjoy my Xbox, these controllers have Hall Sensors which fix the stick drift problem plaguing OEM controllers from Microsoft.

Pros: Include many features similar to the Elite Series plus hall sensors
Cons: Wired

https://www.amazon.com/GameSir-Co...B0C7GW9F88

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Aug 23, 2023 08:41 PM
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IXDoubleDXIAug 23, 2023 08:41 PM
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Just got one and sending back. Not because it's not good, just too accustomed to Elite 2 that the Hall sticks aren't worth the trade-off to me. They definitely work, no doubt, but weight of overall controller and the sticks being "tuned" so they're tighter are what's keeping me to Elite 2. Again, personal preference, but, out of the box, no drift. There's also an app to download to set hair triggers for LT/RT, which works pretty well.
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Aug 24, 2023 11:24 AM
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ChromeDreamAug 24, 2023 11:24 AM
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Use code G7SEHALL for extra 15% off
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Aug 25, 2023 04:32 PM
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Hombre2jpAug 25, 2023 04:32 PM
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Quote from ChromeDream :
Use code G7SEHALL for extra 15% off
Thanks! Code Worked! came out to $41.63 for me after taxes
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Aug 25, 2023 10:26 PM
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dpaquinAug 25, 2023 10:26 PM
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Got this direct from them a few weeks ago(before available on AMZ) it's ok I guess. My hands are having a bit of a little trouble acclimating to it because I play with KontrolFreekz and these seem to fit PS sticks, I only had a random ps KF around to try so I can't fully say that it's good or bad. I like it, and it works.I feel I'll be able to judge better when I have a new set of sticks and play as I normally would.
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Aug 27, 2023 02:39 AM
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ChromeDreamAug 27, 2023 02:39 AM
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Warning for folks who bought this... got mine yesterday and learned a lesson about 3rd party Xbox controllers... I don't want to get into the details, but after testing for a few hours I can say with absolute certainty that these controllers do not work the same way that licensed Xbox controllers do, at least in the game I tested. It's a shame because I really liked the controller; for $40 you can't beat the features or the quality, and the Hall effect sticks are very cool. I don't have any interest in Microsoft and I am not trolling Gamesir at all, I just felt like I should warn folks because it's honestly a bit of a shady practice that this is done and it caused me to waste a few hours learning a lesson.
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Aug 27, 2023 08:16 AM
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cbpelikanAug 27, 2023 08:16 AM
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Not a gamer, but I bought this with the intention of dipping a toe into PC gaming. Good choice?
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Aug 27, 2023 04:44 PM
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ShrewdPassenger5085Aug 27, 2023 04:44 PM
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Quote from ChromeDream :
Warning for folks who bought this... got mine yesterday and learned a lesson about 3rd party Xbox controllers... I don't want to get into the details, but after testing for a few hours I can say with absolute certainty that these controllers do not work the same way that licensed Xbox controllers do, at least in the game I tested. It's a shame because I really liked the controller; for $40 you can't beat the features or the quality, and the Hall effect sticks are very cool. I don't have any interest in Microsoft and I am not trolling Gamesir at all, I just felt like I should warn folks because it's honestly a bit of a shady practice that this is done and it caused me to waste a few hours learning a lesson.
Would you like to give some actual details about your experience or should we just take this as mindless slagging for no reason?
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Aug 27, 2023 05:10 PM
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ChromeDreamAug 27, 2023 05:10 PM
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Quote from ShrewdPassenger5085 :
Would you like to give some actual details about your experience or should we just take this as mindless slagging for no reason?

Considering I'm the guy who gave the extra 15% off code, I'd hope you'd not be so dense as to think it's "mindless slagging"... but there's always that guy.


Buy one and try it, your results may differ depending on the game, equipment, etc, so I don't want to spout a bunch of specific details that may or may not be true for all given situations. What I will say is that 100% on my setup, with this controller vs one using Microsoft hardware, I lost strong AA (if you don't know what AA stands for, just forget I ever said anything and move on) in a Microsoft published game. That's all I'm going to say, it may not affect or be noticed by other people in other situations but that is what I found on my particular setup.
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Aug 27, 2023 05:31 PM
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JawtonAug 27, 2023 05:31 PM
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Quote from ChromeDream :
Considering I'm the guy who gave the extra 15% off code, I'd hope you'd not be so dense as to think it's "mindless slagging"... but there's always that guy.


Buy one and try it, your results may differ depending on the game, equipment, etc, so I don't want to spout a bunch of specific details that may or may not be true for all given situations. What I will say is that 100% on my setup, with this controller vs one using Microsoft hardware, I lost strong AA (if you don't know what AA stands for, just forget I ever said anything and move on) in a Microsoft published game. That's all I'm going to say, it may not affect or be noticed by other people in other situations but that is what I found on my particular setup.
Anti air, aim accuracy, anti aliasing, aa batteries? Cmon man, you're being so cryptic. The world needs to know!
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Aug 27, 2023 05:45 PM
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ChromeDreamAug 27, 2023 05:45 PM
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Quote from Jawton :
Anti air, anti aliasing, as batteries. Cmon man, you're being so cryptic. The world needs to know!

Aim assist. I'm cryptic because I really don't want to start any more conjecture (too late for that Facepalm); honestly some youtuber probably needs to take this subject up if they haven't already and do some better testing in different situations/games, but I still have the controller so I suppose if I wanted to I could make a video showing precisely what is going on using my setup, but I am not that hardcore of a gamer--I just could not find the settings and get comfortable with this controller, wondered why, and spent a good amount of time testing. Sample size of 1 here so I'd rather just make people aware, I say buy and try for yourself, if you don't have any issues then don't worry about it--but I am curious to know if other folks find similar results.

Also for anyone wondering, it does report in Windows as an XINPUT device when plugged in, also the Hall effect sticks are very precise, much more so than the other controller I was testing with that cost more than 5x as much.
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Aug 27, 2023 05:49 PM
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falcoxxAug 27, 2023 05:49 PM
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Quote from ChromeDream :
Warning for folks who bought this... got mine yesterday and learned a lesson about 3rd party Xbox controllers... I don't want to get into the details, but after testing for a few hours I can say with absolute certainty that these controllers do not work the same way that licensed Xbox controllers do, at least in the game I tested. It's a shame because I really liked the controller; for $40 you can't beat the features or the quality, and the Hall effect sticks are very cool. I don't have any interest in Microsoft and I am not trolling Gamesir at all, I just felt like I should warn folks because it's honestly a bit of a shady practice that this is done and it caused me to waste a few hours learning a lesson.
Its says on the amazon page these are xbox licensed?
Aug 27, 2023 06:08 PM
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ChromeDreamAug 27, 2023 06:08 PM
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Quote from falcoxx :
Its says on the amazon page these are xbox licensed?

Thanks--I see the picture you are referencing, but nowhere on the box that I saw does it say that, but I threw the box away, so I could very well be wrong. The box said designed for Xbox or something like that? It does actually come with a code for a free month of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, and it's detected in Windows as an XINPUT device, so I wouldn't be completely surprised if it is licensed, but here's the rub, it's a wired only controller, and only controllers that use actual Xbox hardware can use Xbox wireless since it uses proprietary frequencies. Since it's wired only, I'm assuming the Gamesir controllers are not using Microsoft hardware (or obviously they'd have the ability to be wireless as well). The three major premium controller brands (I'm including Microsoft Elite here) all use actual Microsoft hardware in their controllers, and are wireless/wired. Maybe there's some grey area where you can be licensed but not use actual Microsoft hardware... either way I feel like there is some funny business going on here but just because one random guy on the internet has found something he can very much duplicate and demonstrate on his setup does not make a general fact. That's it and that's all Confused
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Aug 27, 2023 07:15 PM
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ChromeDreamAug 27, 2023 07:15 PM
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Quote from ShrewdPassenger5085 :
Would you like to give some actual details about your experience or should we just take this as mindless slagging for no reason?
Quote from Jawton :
Anti air, aim accuracy, anti aliasing, aa batteries? Cmon man, you're being so cryptic. The world needs to know!
Quote from falcoxx :
Its says on the amazon page these are xbox licensed?
Quote from IXDoubleDXI :
Just got one and sending back. Not because it's not good, just too accustomed to Elite 2 that the Hall sticks aren't worth the trade-off to me. They definitely work, no doubt, but weight of overall controller and the sticks being "tuned" so they're tighter are what's keeping me to Elite 2. Again, personal preference, but, out of the box, no drift. There's also an app to download to set hair triggers for LT/RT, which works pretty well.
Quote from dpaquin :
Got this direct from them a few weeks ago(before available on AMZ) it's ok I guess. My hands are having a bit of a little trouble acclimating to it because I play with KontrolFreekz and these seem to fit PS sticks, I only had a random ps KF around to try so I can't fully say that it's good or bad. I like it, and it works.I feel I'll be able to judge better when I have a new set of sticks and play as I normally would.
Quote from cbpelikan :
Not a gamer, but I bought this with the intention of dipping a toe into PC gaming. Good choice?

I started this add-on discussion to the deal, and since there are actually interesting responses and questions I do want to respect, plus I'm genuinely curious to know if others can replicate this, I posted a video of exactly what I am seeing with the details--and annoyingly quoted everyone to get their attention.

Today's 1st world problem: https://youtu.be/C4prXRlKugY
Aug 27, 2023 07:52 PM
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falcoxxAug 27, 2023 07:52 PM
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Quote from ChromeDream :
I started this add-on discussion to the deal, and since there are actually interesting responses and questions I do want to respect, plus I'm genuinely curious to know if others can replicate this, I posted a video of exactly what I am seeing with the details--and annoyingly quoted everyone to get their attention.

Today's 1st world problem: https://youtu.be/C4prXRlKugY
Thanks for taking the effort in making this video. Interesting. Maybe its related to this.

https://gamertweak.com/aim-assist...-infinite/

I dont know if you want to bother. But maybe start the game with the gamesir as the only controller and see if AA works. Maybe its the 2nd controller that loses AA due to the bug.

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Aug 27, 2023 08:31 PM
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ChromeDreamAug 27, 2023 08:31 PM
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Quote from falcoxx :
Thanks for taking the effort in making this video. Interesting. Maybe its related to this.

https://gamertweak.com/aim-assist...-infinite/

I dont know if you want to bother. But maybe start the game with the gamesir as the only controller and see if AA works. Maybe its the 2nd controller that loses AA due to the bug.

Yeah, that was a bug from launch they fixed a long time ago, but thanks for the reminder. I did retest this just now to make sure, I rebooted my PC, left all controllers off/disconnected, plugged the Gamesir in, turned my mouse completely off, loaded up Halo, hit the A button on the Gamesir to start the game on the title screen so there could be no issue with other controllers/aiming devices. Went into training mode and the same thing. Very little aim assist if any, felt terrible.


I am hoping though that this is still some kind of bug... I know that the Halo developers recently implemented a slight aim assist for KBM players (keyboard and mouse) and although I haven't played much KBM, it could be that somehow the Gamesir/non Microsoft controllers are being assigned the much lower level of aim assist meant for mouse input. But as I stated before, the Gamesir shows up in Device Manager as an XINPUT HID specifically, so....?


One other thing I didn't mention in my previous posts, is that in the one ranked game I played with the Gamesir, partway through the game I got insta disconnected ("Disconnected from host"). My PC was still connected to the internet, and I cannot remember the last time I ever got DC'd like that (if you DC from a match due to lag/network down, generally you will stay in the match lagging out for some time before it kicks you, you don't get insta-kicked). I have a small suspicion that the anti-cheat software may be looking for non-Microsoft hardware and kicking players using them, but that's a pretty far reach, way further than just the straight up lack of aim assist.

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