Onkyo TX-NR7100 9.2-Channel THX Certified AV Receiver $849 Amazon $849

supermanrob

Aug 30, 2023 03:37 PM

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supermanrobAug 30, 2023 03:37 PM

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Not the lowest but close(by $54).

If you have no preference, on a budget, Dirac is a high priority & don't need preouts this definitely fits the bill!

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Doggiepoo

Aug 30, 2023 05:02 PM

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DoggiepooAug 30, 2023 05:02 PM

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This or the AVR-X3800H? I'm a complete novice with no experience with Dirac or Audessey.

fourml8r

Aug 30, 2023 06:01 PM

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fourml8rAug 30, 2023 06:01 PM

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Quote from Doggiepoo

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This or the AVR-X3800H? I'm a complete novice with no experience with Dirac or Audessey.

Both units have their pluses and minus. Overall the RZ50 has received a lot of high praise from professional review sites. Plus there is no additional charge to upgrade to Dirac. The onkyo also allows multiple ways to to a Dirac calibration (App which is easy or REW which is a lot more involved). With the denon you could spend up to $950 for the various Dirac modules and a calibration mic which is required for the denon.

You should read up on both in the AVR forums, a lot better info there than here on SD. There is also a bunch of info there showing that some of the denon components used in the 3800 series are of lower quality than the previous 3700 model. how much of a difference depends on your sensitivity to things like that.

Last edited by fourml8r August 30, 2023 at 11:03 AM.

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supermanrob

Aug 30, 2023 07:53 PM

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Quote from Doggiepoo

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This or the AVR-X3800H? I'm a complete novice with no experience with Dirac or Audessey.

It depends on your expectations and priorities.

This does not give you preouts, 2 subouts are mono, this does not give you both Audyssey & Dirac, you only pay for Dirac if you want to with Denon.

Dirac is baked into the price on this and it only offers Dirac loudspeakers RC(Dirac Live).
It will not offer Dirac subwoofer RC(Dirac Live Bass Control), the 3800 will next year.

Dirac is very good especially when you incorporate DLBC, crucial IMO.
You can read up on its benefits here:

https://www.dirac.com/live/bass-control/

Here is a comparison of the two that should help:

https://www.zkelectronics.com/com...tx-nr7100/

Last edited by supermanrob August 31, 2023 at 08:29 AM.

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RavenSEAL

Sep 01, 2023 01:30 AM

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RavenSEALSep 01, 2023 01:30 AM

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Nice deal for DIRAC.

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Backhome77

Sep 01, 2023 01:01 PM

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Backhome77Sep 01, 2023 01:01 PM

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Quote from supermanrob

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Dirac is a high priority

Quote from fourml8r

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The onkyo also allows multiple ways to to a Dirac calibration (App which is easy or REW which is a lot more involved).

Anyone interested in DIRAC. I set this receiver up last week, and during the initial setup (which is mostly easy), it will give you the option to calibrate DIRAC with the Onkyo App. Don't do this. The app sucks. I tried multiple times. It kept failing, loosing connection, reporting errors. Tried Googling a solution, and pretty much every forum confirmed the app is just a dumpster fire. So I downloaded the software directly from DIRAC's website on my laptop. You'll have to create an account, but it's free to download. It immediately recognized my receiver and works flawlessly.

TL/DR: Don't setup DIRAC with Onkyo's app. Get the software from DIRAC.

Here's a good review if you're on the fence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...ewRobinson

Last edited by Backhome77 September 1, 2023 at 06:04 AM.

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fourml8r

Sep 01, 2023 02:40 PM

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Quote from Backhome77

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Anyone interested in DIRAC. I set this receiver up last week, and during the initial setup (which is mostly easy), it will give you the option to calibrate DIRAC with the Onkyo App. Don't do this. The app sucks. I tried multiple times. It kept failing, loosing connection, reporting errors. Tried Googling a solution, and pretty much every forum confirmed the app is just a dumpster fire. So I downloaded the software directly from DIRAC's website on my laptop. You'll have to create an account, but it's free to download. It immediately recognized my receiver and works flawlessly.

TL/DR: Don't setup DIRAC with Onkyo's app. Get the software from DIRAC.

Here's a good review if you're on the fence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...ewRobinson [youtube.com]

there is another option which is great for those that want good Dirac results and a fast setup. That is to use the Dirac Live App (Not the Windows/Mac software).

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supermanrob

Sep 01, 2023 06:01 PM

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Quote from Backhome77

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Anyone interested in DIRAC. I set this receiver up last week, and during the initial setup (which is mostly easy), it will give you the option to calibrate DIRAC with the Onkyo App. Don't do this. The app sucks. I tried multiple times. It kept failing, loosing connection, reporting errors. Tried Googling a solution, and pretty much every forum confirmed the app is just a dumpster fire. So I downloaded the software directly from DIRAC's website on my laptop. You'll have to create an account, but it's free to download. It immediately recognized my receiver and works flawlessly.

TL/DR: Don't setup DIRAC with Onkyo's app. Get the software from DIRAC.

Here's a good review if you're on the fence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...ewRobinson

I would agree, using Dirac directly is the most optimal, apps are way to glitchy and not as accurate.

Last edited by supermanrob September 1, 2023 at 01:20 PM.

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Backhome77

Sep 01, 2023 07:24 PM

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Quote from fourml8r

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there is another option which is great for those that want good Dirac results and a fast setup. That is to use the Dirac Live App (Not the Windows/Mac software).

I saw that, but I didn't download it b/c the app has really bad reviews in the App Store. Though a lot of them could be user error, or folks mad that their equipment doesn't support it. Next time I need to re-adjust, I'll give it a try.

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sigchidj

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Sep 02, 2023 01:16 PM

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sigchidj

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Just a quick update, the price has dropped another 5 dollars! I adjusted the Title accordingly

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supermanrob

Sep 03, 2023 12:35 AM

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Quote from sigchidj

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Just a quick update, the price has dropped another 5 dollars! I adjusted the Title accordingly

It's down to $820 now.

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fourml8r

Sep 03, 2023 03:37 PM

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Quote from Backhome77

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I saw that, but I didn't download it b/c the app has really bad reviews in the App Store. Though a lot of them could be user error, or folks mad that their equipment doesn't support it. Next time I need to re-adjust, I'll give it a try.

I have seen a lot of people mess up the first step (master volume setup). And that causes a lot of errors during the setup process. Definitely user error.

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