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New York Residents: Google Nest Smart Programmable Wifi Thermostat (Snow)

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NY.Enervee has for New York Residents: Google Nest Smart Programmable Wifi Thermostat (Snow) for Free. Shipping is $9.99.

Thanks Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal

Note, Offer applies for customers of Enervee/NY Residents only. Additionally, Tax applies to the pre-sale price of $129.99.

Features:
  • Programmable: Yes
  • Occupancy Sensor: Yes
  • Heating & Cooling System: Type2 stage
  • Periods per Programmable Day: 96
  • Power Options: Hardwired
  • Smart Home: Smart Home Enabled
  • Smart Home Protocol: Bluetooth,Weave,Wi-Fi
  • Smart Technology: Smart Home Hub Compatible, Smart Phone/Android App

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NY.Enervee has for New York Residents: Google Nest Smart Programmable Wifi Thermostat (Snow) for Free. Shipping is $9.99.

Thanks Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal

Note, Offer applies for customers of Enervee/NY Residents only. Additionally, Tax applies to the pre-sale price of $129.99.

Features:
  • Programmable: Yes
  • Occupancy Sensor: Yes
  • Heating & Cooling System: Type2 stage
  • Periods per Programmable Day: 96
  • Power Options: Hardwired
  • Smart Home: Smart Home Enabled
  • Smart Home Protocol: Bluetooth,Weave,Wi-Fi
  • Smart Technology: Smart Home Hub Compatible, Smart Phone/Android App

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starcaptor
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SD gets worse every year because of uneducated threads like this.

There is ZERO downside to this program...except that taxpayers are subsidizing these rebates, and your feelings can be whatever on that.

The tl;dr of this deal is that no one can "control" anything without your explicit consent...you have to literally fill out a form and say that you are submitting to the program, usually in exchange for some financial incentive, AND YOU CAN OPT-OUT ANYTIME YOU WANT IN REAL-TIME; this is called demand-response.

https://www.energy.gov/oe/demand-response

demand-response (DNR) is an attempt to mitigate the possibility of brownouts as well as reduce the need for high cost/highly polluting "peaker" power plants by matching energy consumption with immediate supply. The utility will only "control" your thermostat during the hottest days, of which there are probably less than 5 in a year (at least in NY). However, this isnt how it sounds:

- They dont just raise the temp to make you suffer when its super hot. Rather, they will cool your house down as much as possible in anticipation of the DNR event (also called a "rush hour" event in local parlance), and then turn your thermostat up (ie: make it work less) when the event actually happens. Your house will (ideally) still be cool enough from the prior cooling to not need much energy at the moment

Example - if a rush hour event is expected for 3pm on a Tuesday, when its projected to be 102 degrees outside, and you signed up for DNR, the utility may cool your house down to the mid to high 60s around noontime, and then then the thermostat up to 80 degrees at 3pm...you still stay cool, and the utility has distributed the load across multiple hours, instead of everyone blasting AC on at 3pm.

- I REPEAT...YOU CAN OVERRIDE A RUSH HOUR EVENT ANYTIME. If you want to use your stuff, go ahead and blast the AC (in this example, at 3pm when its 102 outside). LIfe returns to normal. However, you may lose the financial incentive for that year if you do this. But materally, its no different than if you turned down membershp in the program.

Source - I got $100 a year ($50 x 2 thermostats) from 2017 on for signing up for PSEGLI rush hour rewards. I get maybe 2 rush-hour events per summer (none at all this summer). However, because I set my thermostat at 76 degrees, Im actually above the threshold, and absolutely NOTHING happens to me, so Im getting $100 a year for nothing.

Unfortunately, I had to leave the program in 2019 when I upgraded my AC to units which has its own proprietary thermostat...not compatible with Nest or Ecobee. Im still eligible on the heating side during the winter. My boiler is still run by Nests, so I still get $$ there.
iez6996
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It's free because they want to be able to control it
Develop_Ment
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So many smooth brain folks in here not understanding how the program works or even a smart device for that matter. LMAO.

We are witnessing the tinfoil hats out themselves.

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Sep 02, 2023 12:07 PM
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rvdnsxSep 02, 2023 12:07 PM
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Sold out? I get an error when adding to cart.
Sep 02, 2023 12:08 PM
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mysterymeat21Sep 02, 2023 12:08 PM
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Does this have special software to allow control to the utility company?

Or is there some level of paranoia here? Is it tied to the property?
Sep 02, 2023 12:13 PM
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kerplunkSep 02, 2023 12:13 PM
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Quote from mrdizle :
Utility company can remotely adjust your settings.
NY government gets $10 tax for a $0 purchase.
Seems typical NY actually.
Yes, nothing is free in NY
Sep 02, 2023 12:25 PM
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JustinS6323Sep 02, 2023 12:25 PM
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I have one of these.

All summer, it goes to "peak time" and automatically adjust 2-3 degrees above set point. You just feel the air getting warmer and, sure enough, the screen says peak time.

You can kick it back down manually but still it's annoying. Makes me want to go back to my old ecobee.
Sep 02, 2023 12:42 PM
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3JABOSep 02, 2023 12:42 PM
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Don't do it. It's a trap.
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Sep 02, 2023 12:51 PM
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MJanofskySep 02, 2023 12:51 PM
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Quote from scotts9612 :
Florida gets them free to threw duke power if you call and request one
I haven't heard of Duke doing this- do you have any more info?
Sep 02, 2023 12:54 PM
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JonD2Sep 02, 2023 12:54 PM
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Quote from iez6996 :
It's free because they want to be able to control it
Exactly - it's a trap.
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Spider210Sep 02, 2023 01:01 PM
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$21.11 After ship and tax. Guess I'll pass
Sep 02, 2023 01:03 PM
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MamboNo5Sep 02, 2023 01:03 PM
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Google's thermostats are very glitchy especially their network connection. I returned mine twice in 6 months.
Sep 02, 2023 01:08 PM
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Spook52Sep 02, 2023 01:08 PM
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Be sure to disable the microphone!
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starcaptorSep 02, 2023 01:31 PM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank starcaptor

Quote from JonD2 :
Exactly - it's a trap.
SD gets worse every year because of uneducated threads like this.

There is ZERO downside to this program...except that taxpayers are subsidizing these rebates, and your feelings can be whatever on that.

The tl;dr of this deal is that no one can "control" anything without your explicit consent...you have to literally fill out a form and say that you are submitting to the program, usually in exchange for some financial incentive, AND YOU CAN OPT-OUT ANYTIME YOU WANT IN REAL-TIME; this is called demand-response.

https://www.energy.gov/oe/demand-response

demand-response (DNR) is an attempt to mitigate the possibility of brownouts as well as reduce the need for high cost/highly polluting "peaker" power plants by matching energy consumption with immediate supply. The utility will only "control" your thermostat during the hottest days, of which there are probably less than 5 in a year (at least in NY). However, this isnt how it sounds:

- They dont just raise the temp to make you suffer when its super hot. Rather, they will cool your house down as much as possible in anticipation of the DNR event (also called a "rush hour" event in local parlance), and then turn your thermostat up (ie: make it work less) when the event actually happens. Your house will (ideally) still be cool enough from the prior cooling to not need much energy at the moment

Example - if a rush hour event is expected for 3pm on a Tuesday, when its projected to be 102 degrees outside, and you signed up for DNR, the utility may cool your house down to the mid to high 60s around noontime, and then then the thermostat up to 80 degrees at 3pm...you still stay cool, and the utility has distributed the load across multiple hours, instead of everyone blasting AC on at 3pm.

- I REPEAT...YOU CAN OVERRIDE A RUSH HOUR EVENT ANYTIME. If you want to use your stuff, go ahead and blast the AC (in this example, at 3pm when its 102 outside). LIfe returns to normal. However, you may lose the financial incentive for that year if you do this. But materally, its no different than if you turned down membershp in the program.

Source - I got $100 a year ($50 x 2 thermostats) from 2017 on for signing up for PSEGLI rush hour rewards. I get maybe 2 rush-hour events per summer (none at all this summer). However, because I set my thermostat at 76 degrees, Im actually above the threshold, and absolutely NOTHING happens to me, so Im getting $100 a year for nothing.

Unfortunately, I had to leave the program in 2019 when I upgraded my AC to units which has its own proprietary thermostat...not compatible with Nest or Ecobee. Im still eligible on the heating side during the winter. My boiler is still run by Nests, so I still get $$ there.
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hcl777Sep 02, 2023 02:07 PM
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Quote from starcaptor :
SD gets worse every year because of uneducated threads like this.

There is ZERO downside to this program...except that taxpayers are subsidizing these rebates, and your feelings can be whatever on that.

The tl;dr of this deal is that no one can "control" anything without your explicit consent...you have to literally fill out a form and say that you are submitting to the program, usually in exchange for some financial incentive, AND YOU CAN OPT-OUT ANYTIME YOU WANT IN REAL-TIME; this is called demand-response.

https://www.energy.gov/oe/demand-response

demand-response (DNR) is an attempt to mitigate the possibility of brownouts as well as reduce the need for high cost/highly polluting "peaker" power plants by matching energy consumption with immediate supply. The utility will only "control" your thermostat during the hottest days, of which there are probably less than 5 in a year (at least in NY). However, this isnt how it sounds:

- They dont just raise the temp to make you suffer when its super hot. Rather, they will cool your house down as much as possible in anticipation of the DNR event (also called a "rush hour" event in local parlance), and then turn your thermostat up (ie: make it work less) when the event actually happens. Your house will (ideally) still be cool enough from the prior cooling to not need much energy at the moment

Example - if a rush hour event is expected for 3pm on a Tuesday, when its projected to be 102 degrees outside, and you signed up for DNR, the utility may cool your house down to the mid to high 60s around noontime, and then then the thermostat up to 80 degrees at 3pm...you still stay cool, and the utility has distributed the load across multiple hours, instead of everyone blasting AC on at 3pm.

- I REPEAT...YOU CAN OVERRIDE A RUSH HOUR EVENT ANYTIME. If you want to use your stuff, go ahead and blast the AC (in this example, at 3pm when its 102 outside). LIfe returns to normal. However, you may lose the financial incentive for that year if you do this. But materally, its no different than if you turned down membershp in the program.

Source - I got $100 a year ($50 x 2 thermostats) from 2017 on for signing up for PSEGLI rush hour rewards. I get maybe 2 rush-hour events per summer (none at all this summer). However, because I set my thermostat at 76 degrees, Im actually above the threshold, and absolutely NOTHING happens to me, so Im getting $100 a year for nothing.

Unfortunately, I had to leave the program in 2019 when I upgraded my AC to units which has its own proprietary thermostat...not compatible with Nest or Ecobee. Im still eligible on the heating side during the winter. My boiler is still run by Nests, so I still get $$ there.
No need for me to opt out of anything if I don't opt in in the first place.
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Wavy-NifeSep 02, 2023 02:13 PM
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Quote from mrdizle :
Utility company can remotely adjust your settings.
NY government gets $10 tax for a $0 purchase.
Seems typical NY actually.
Smart thermostats are free (or greatly discounted) in just about every state, have been posted on SDs often. Google your provider + free thermostat

https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/fp/818747
Last edited by Wavy-Nife September 2, 2023 at 08:02 AM.
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whitney56Sep 02, 2023 03:14 PM
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Perfect! They can regulate your home's use of utilities. I'm in for NONE

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whitney56Sep 02, 2023 03:18 PM
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Quote from hcl777 :
No need for me to opt out of anything if I don't opt in in the first place.
And just like Covid vaccine requirements companies made. Due to an emergency, they'll use it to help the utility overload. Due to an emergency …. they can do ANYTHING the want.
Last edited by whitney56 September 2, 2023 at 10:31 AM.
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