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Sep 7, 2023 4:09 AM

HIFIMAN SUNDARA Over-Ear Planar Magnetic Open Back Headphones (Refurb)

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HIFIMAN Store has HIFIMAN SUNDARA Over-Ear Planar Magnetic Open Back Headphones (Refurbished) on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • Driver Type: Planar
  • Design: Over-Ear (Circumaural)
  • Earcup Style: Open-Back
  • Sensitivity: 94 dB
  • Impedance: 37 Ohms
  • Audio Connector: 1/8" / 3.5 mm Straight
  • Connector to Earpiece: 2 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm
  • Detachable Cable: Yes

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  • Condition Notes:
    • The refurbished products have been thoroughly inspected and are all tested in good working condition but may have parts replaced by the factory (as needed) and cosmetic defects.
    • All refurbished products also come with accessories and packaged in a brand new brown box.
    • Every HIFIMAN Refurbished product includes HIFIMAN's standard warranty, the same as brand new products
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.

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HIFIMAN Store has HIFIMAN SUNDARA Over-Ear Planar Magnetic Open Back Headphones (Refurbished) on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

Thanks to staff member the-press-box for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Driver Type: Planar
  • Design: Over-Ear (Circumaural)
  • Earcup Style: Open-Back
  • Sensitivity: 94 dB
  • Impedance: 37 Ohms
  • Audio Connector: 1/8" / 3.5 mm Straight
  • Connector to Earpiece: 2 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm
  • Detachable Cable: Yes

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • Reviews:
  • Condition Notes:
    • The refurbished products have been thoroughly inspected and are all tested in good working condition but may have parts replaced by the factory (as needed) and cosmetic defects.
    • All refurbished products also come with accessories and packaged in a brand new brown box.
    • Every HIFIMAN Refurbished product includes HIFIMAN's standard warranty, the same as brand new products
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.

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Sep 8, 2023 1:22 PM
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A_BobSep 8, 2023 1:22 PM
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300$ seems to be the normal price on amazon. These do not require an amp but they do benefit from one. Open back headphones which means very little sound isolation.

https://www.soundguys.com/hifiman...iew-73267/
Last edited by A_Bob September 8, 2023 at 06:32 AM.
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Sep 8, 2023 2:22 PM
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imthesunSep 8, 2023 2:22 PM
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How would this compare to the BD Amiron home?
Sep 8, 2023 2:29 PM
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LUKEP6530Sep 8, 2023 2:29 PM
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I purchased these a few months ago in exactly this condition. They arrived as new. I had debated for a very long time if these are worth it. Listened to every review out there but eventually you can only listen and decide. Quick review, considering the price range. For me, these are incredibly tight and detailed. They shine in jazz, vocal, instrumental and I just use the monoprice liquid spark headphone amp to drive them. Drums are tight and responsive. Soundstage is incredible. I replaced the cables as they are a bit short. I do not like them as much for EDM or anything you might classify under the >90s rock umbrella. Having said that, there are exceptions. Bjork and Tool's fear inoculum (especially invincible) sounds great. But something like Green Day or system of a down sound better on a different set up, for me. Honestly though - above anything else - if you like jazz or similar styles these are incredible value. So, that's my personal experience.
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Sep 8, 2023 2:48 PM
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stealthytolkienSep 8, 2023 2:48 PM
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If you are a fan of symphonies / jazz / classical / rock, these will make you feel like you're witnessing it live. Really nice open sound stage and crystal clear sound. There's really nothing to complain about especially for that price for a wired planar headset.

Just make sure you don't drop it on a hard floor. And cables that come with these are a bit jumpy so I replaced them but that's about it.
Sep 8, 2023 3:06 PM
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preferredmikeSep 8, 2023 3:06 PM
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$199 is an amazing price, even refurbished. It could just be returned units from some unhappy customer. I am a happy customer and love my Sundaras.
I paired these with a iFi ZEN CAN - Balanced Desktop Headphone Amp. I do love how they sound with this combination. So clean and crisp without any harshness.
Typically the open magnetic planar are not the best with bass, but this combo brings it out if you want it. The Zen CAN is now an older model, but they likely have something similar.
You can play straight from your phone, but they sound much thinner to me. The Amp brings out the potential of these headphones.
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Sep 8, 2023 3:09 PM
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jklap2Sep 8, 2023 3:09 PM
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Tempting. Any comment on refurb quality from hifiman ? It can be sometimes hit or miss. One comment has it they they got almost new. Any others having had similar experience ?
Sep 8, 2023 3:14 PM
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PurpleNarwhal693Sep 8, 2023 3:14 PM
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Quote from preferredmike View quoted comment :
$199 is an amazing price, even refurbished. It could just be returned units from some unhappy customer. I am a happy customer and love my Sundaras.
I paired these with a iFi ZEN CAN - Balanced Desktop Headphone Amp. I do love how they sound with this combination. So clean and crisp without any harshness.
Typically the open magnetic planar are not the best with bass, but this combo brings it out if you want it. The Zen CAN is now an older model, but they likely have something similar.
You can play straight from your phone, but they sound much thinner to me. The Amp brings out the potential of these headphones.
At this price point I was also considering the Sennheiser 560 or Sennheiser/Drop 6xx. The impedence is quite high with the 6xx but if an amp is needed for the best experience, it looks unavoidable and 6xx might be the way to go. Have you tried either one of these?

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Sep 8, 2023 3:26 PM
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derwinxtraSep 8, 2023 3:26 PM
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Quote from imthesun View quoted comment :
How would this compare to the BD Amiron home?
I've got the he400s and Amirons, so not quite what you're asking… but it comes down to what you value. The Hifiman planers sound better to me, but the BDs are a) so much more comfortable and b) soooo much better built, that to me the marginal sound difference is t even close to worth it, and I use my BDs 10x as much as I use my HE400s
Sep 8, 2023 3:31 PM
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kwanson2610Sep 8, 2023 3:31 PM
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openbox only $40 more
Sep 8, 2023 4:02 PM
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dasfoolSep 8, 2023 4:02 PM
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The Edition XS is also available refurbished for $329. https://store.hifiman.com/index.p...ished.html
Sep 8, 2023 4:15 PM
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artibramuirSep 8, 2023 4:15 PM
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Planar headphones like these have so much dynamic headroom you're almost always leaving quality/enjoyability on the table if you don't pair it with a good parametric EQ. For a portable solution, try the Qudelix 5K. It has great sound quality, good battery life, solid bluetooth, and can also run off USB-C. It's doesn't have the most powerful amp, but it's probably powerful enough unless you're listening to a lot of very quiet source material (like classical music) at high volumes. Plus it supports balanced outputs, which are rarely indicated from a quality perspective for headphones with short cables*, but significantly increase the amp's output. I don't believe the Sundara come with balanced cables but you can find them pretty cheap on eBay.

FWIW, don't listen to people who say you need tons of power to drive headphones. Sure, some headphones need more power than others, but if your headphones are loud enough without maxing out the volume or causing audible dropouts or distortion, power is not the problem. But a different--not necessarily more powerful--amp or dac might still make it sound better, since there might be *other* problems with the amp or DAC design or implementation! But first...try PEQ.

*Balanced cables can be *very* helpful or even necessary for preserving quality in many circumstances, they're just usually overkill for headphones.
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Sep 8, 2023 4:33 PM
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JeffJ9000Sep 8, 2023 4:33 PM
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Quote from derwinxtra View quoted comment :
I've got the he400s and Amirons, so not quite what you're asking… but it comes down to what you value. The Hifiman planers sound better to me, but the BDs are a) so much more comfortable and b) soooo much better built, that to me the marginal sound difference is t even close to worth it, and I use my BDs 10x as much as I use my HE400s
Great comparison and user feedback. HiFiman makes excellent sounding headphones, but comfort and build quality are a downgrade from Sony, BD, Sennheiser, Meze, etc.
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Sep 8, 2023 4:56 PM
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gado45Sep 8, 2023 4:56 PM
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Can anyone comment on comfort of these? Im finding my 6xx so uncomfortable I can't wear them more than half hour, Im thinking of selling them
Sep 8, 2023 6:18 PM
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W0rmySep 8, 2023 6:18 PM
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How do these compare to Sennheiser HD 560S for music and xbox gaming?

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Sep 8, 2023 6:29 PM
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Quote from PurpleNarwhal693 View quoted comment :
At this price point I was also considering the Sennheiser 560 or Sennheiser/Drop 6xx. The impedence is quite high with the 6xx but if an amp is needed for the best experience, it looks unavoidable and 6xx might be the way to go. Have you tried either one of these?
I have owned both the Hifiman Sundara (2020) and HD6xx/HD650.

They are both among the best headphones for $200. Which one you prefer would be based on personal sound preference.

I had the HD650's for years so I was familiar with their sound and then purchased the Sundara more recently. The HD6xx is warmer/weightier and sounds more blunted/rounded, not as quick and sharp or open sounding as the Sundara. It sounds more laidback than the Sundara. The Sundara is more open sounding, transients are quicker, it feels more light and quick/airy as most planar magnetic do. But it's not in your face, it is still a laidback sounding headphone.

I personally prefer the HD6xx, but I could see why someone would like the Sundara more.

I wouldn't worry that much about impedance. You need an amp to get the best out of any headphone, but they are so inexpensive these days you can usually find a quality headphone amp on Craigslist or FB Marketplace from the likes of Schiit Audio, Topping, Monolith, JDS Labs, etc. for less than $100.

And if you were looking for a headphone for portable use, then you shouldn't be looking at either of these since they are open back.
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