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Features that were important for me were:
1. I wanted to have as minimal of a maintenance as possible. With regular robots, they have a tiny bin, you have to always take it out of a robot and dump it. It was important for me that robot came with a base and would dump garbage automatically in the vacuum bag in the base. It's been 4 months now and I still haven't replaced the vacuum bag.
2. I wanted it to have a mop. Another thing with mops is just like with garbage, maintenance. You have to constantly refill their tiny reservoir when mopping, which leads me to feature #3.
3. I wanted a self refilling mop. So my Q Revo station has a space for vacuum bag, a tank for clean washing water, and a tank for dirty water from when robot washes the mop. As long as there's water in the clean tank it can top off its internal tank by itself and I don't have to ever touch it. My only maintenance so far is every 2 times I use a mop feature, I have to take out clean water tank and refill it with cleaning solution, and I have to take out dirty water tank and empty it and rinse it from all the sediment on the bottom. Takes a few minutes. Then every maybe 5 months I have to replace vacuum bag in station.
I did not want a camera robot for security reasons. Camera robots got really good at obstacle avoidance due to years of ai training they had. They can identify tiny things on floor like charging usb-c cables or dog poop and go around them. You can also remotely drive them around through app like a mobile camera when you're away and check up on things. But so can people that manage to hack into them. There's been a famous scandal with I believe Roombas where a woman on a toilet got filmed by a robot vac while it was vacuuming and then that footage was leaked by someone at the company to social media.
So another option is a robot that uses Structured Light sensor to spot small things on the floor. And mind you this is just for small debree, anything taller than robot will get spotted by a LiDAR Scanner on top of robot, but we're talking about tiny things 2 inches and smaller that are going to mess your vac up, like dog poop or charging cables. Structured light is fairly new and not as advanced or as good as camera and most high end robots also include laser scanners on each side of the sensor to help with spotting debree.
4. I wanted a good obstacle/debree avoidance if possible, but didn't want to go with camera solution. So if bad obstacle avoidance, this was not a deal breaker for me.
At the time when I was shopping for my vac, that narrowed it down to Roborock Q Revo and Roborock S8 PRO. Q Revo is a midrange model at $900 where as S8 PRO is $1600. S8 PRO has it all, even though it has Structured light sensor, it also has additional lasers to help it identify things, but I just couldn't stomach the price. So I went with Q Revo which at the time I bought for $700 on sale and I've been pretty happy with it. Because Q Revo lacks additional sensors for obstacles, it's obstacle avoidance is dog shit, it gives me more problems than it's worth, so I disabled it altogether in the app. When I initiate my cleaning cycle I quickly run through the house and pick up debris like legos and other junk on the floor. Sometimes I miss something and I start hearing a grinding noise from vac so I pause it and flip it over and sure enough it sucked some small piece of junk in the roller or wheel. Not a deal breaker for me, but would've been nice to have good obstacle avoidance, but I wasn't prepared to pay double for it.
Since then, more great vacuum robots with structured light hit market and now there's an option in $1k range with features I'm looking for like Ecovacs T20 Omni. Like I said, your needs and what's important for you maybe different from what's important for me. I'm happy with Q Revo but floor does take a bit of "prep" when I run it because of basically no obstacle avoidance.
Have you heard of Vacuum Wars? He has a channel on YouTube where he reviews and rates vacuums and also has a web site. This is the resource I used extensively when researching which vacuum is best for my needs and budget.
https://www.youtube.com/@VacuumWars
https://www.vacuumwars.
Features that were important for me were:
1. I wanted to have as minimal of a maintenance as possible. With regular robots, they have a tiny bin, you have to always take it out of a robot and dump it. It was important for me that robot came with a base and would dump garbage automatically in the vacuum bag in the base. It's been 4 months now and I still haven't replaced the vacuum bag.
2. I wanted it to have a mop. Another thing with mops is just like with garbage, maintenance. You have to constantly refill their tiny reservoir when mopping, which leads me to feature #3.
3. I wanted a self refilling mop. So my Q Revo station has a space for vacuum bag, a tank for clean washing water, and a tank for dirty water from when robot washes the mop. As long as there's water in the clean tank it can top off its internal tank by itself and I don't have to ever touch it. My only maintenance so far is every 2 times I use a mop feature, I have to take out clean water tank and refill it with cleaning solution, and I have to take out dirty water tank and empty it and rinse it from all the sediment on the bottom. Takes a few minutes. Then every maybe 5 months I have to replace vacuum bag in station.
I did not want a camera robot for security reasons. Camera robots got really good at obstacle avoidance due to years of ai training they had. They can identify tiny things on floor like charging usb-c cables or dog poop and go around them. You can also remotely drive them around through app like a mobile camera when you're away and check up on things. But so can people that manage to hack into them. There's been a famous scandal with I believe Roombas where a woman on a toilet got filmed by a robot vac while it was vacuuming and then that footage was leaked by someone at the company to social media.
So another option is a robot that uses Structured Light sensor to spot small things on the floor. And mind you this is just for small debree, anything taller than robot will get spotted by a LiDAR Scanner on top of robot, but we're talking about tiny things 2 inches and smaller that are going to mess your vac up, like dog poop or charging cables. Structured light is fairly new and not as advanced or as good as camera and most high end robots also include laser scanners on each side of the sensor to help with spotting debree.
4. I wanted a good obstacle/debree avoidance if possible, but didn't want to go with camera solution. So if bad obstacle avoidance, this was not a deal breaker for me.
At the time when I was shopping for my vac, that narrowed it down to Roborock Q Revo and Roborock S8 PRO. Q Revo is a midrange model at $900 where as S8 PRO is $1600. S8 PRO has it all, even though it has Structured light sensor, it also has additional lasers to help it identify things, but I just couldn't stomach the price. So I went with Q Revo which at the time I bought for $700 on sale and I've been pretty happy with it. Because Q Revo lacks additional sensors for obstacles, it's obstacle avoidance is dog shit, it gives me more problems than it's worth, so I disabled it altogether in the app. When I initiate my cleaning cycle I quickly run through the house and pick up debris like legos and other junk on the floor. Sometimes I miss something and I start hearing a grinding noise from vac so I pause it and flip it over and sure enough it sucked some small piece of junk in the roller or wheel. Not a deal breaker for me, but would've been nice to have good obstacle avoidance, but I wasn't prepared to pay double for it.
Since then, more great vacuum robots with structured light hit market and now there's an option in $1k range with features I'm looking for like Ecovacs T20 Omni. Like I said, your needs and what's important for you maybe different from what's important for me. I'm happy with Q Revo but floor does take a bit of "prep" when I run it because of basically no obstacle avoidance.
Have you heard of Vacuum Wars? He has a channel on YouTube where he reviews and rates vacuums and also has a web site. This is the resource I used extensively when researching which vacuum is best for my needs and budget.
https://www.youtube.com/@VacuumWars
https://www.vacuumwars.
I can run "quiet mode" on wood, which is enough to suck up dog hair. It ramps up if it hits a carpeted door mat. Quiet mode really does blend into background noise.
My Roomba i8+ on the other hand is pretty loud all the time. Like leave the area when it is running. Not sure if the S9 can have a quiet mode, but something to consider.
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Features that were important for me were:
1. I wanted to have as minimal of a maintenance as possible. With regular robots, they have a tiny bin, you have to always take it out of a robot and dump it. It was important for me that robot came with a base and would dump garbage automatically in the vacuum bag in the base. It's been 4 months now and I still haven't replaced the vacuum bag.
2. I wanted it to have a mop. Another thing with mops is just like with garbage, maintenance. You have to constantly refill their tiny reservoir when mopping, which leads me to feature #3.
3. I wanted a self refilling mop. So my Q Revo station has a space for vacuum bag, a tank for clean washing water, and a tank for dirty water from when robot washes the mop. As long as there's water in the clean tank it can top off its internal tank by itself and I don't have to ever touch it. My only maintenance so far is every 2 times I use a mop feature, I have to take out clean water tank and refill it with cleaning solution, and I have to take out dirty water tank and empty it and rinse it from all the sediment on the bottom. Takes a few minutes. Then every maybe 5 months I have to replace vacuum bag in station.
I did not want a camera robot for security reasons. Camera robots got really good at obstacle avoidance due to years of ai training they had. They can identify tiny things on floor like charging usb-c cables or dog poop and go around them. You can also remotely drive them around through app like a mobile camera when you're away and check up on things. But so can people that manage to hack into them. There's been a famous scandal with I believe Roombas where a woman on a toilet got filmed by a robot vac while it was vacuuming and then that footage was leaked by someone at the company to social media.
So another option is a robot that uses Structured Light sensor to spot small things on the floor. And mind you this is just for small debree, anything taller than robot will get spotted by a LiDAR Scanner on top of robot, but we're talking about tiny things 2 inches and smaller that are going to mess your vac up, like dog poop or charging cables. Structured light is fairly new and not as advanced or as good as camera and most high end robots also include laser scanners on each side of the sensor to help with spotting debree.
4. I wanted a good obstacle/debree avoidance if possible, but didn't want to go with camera solution. So if bad obstacle avoidance, this was not a deal breaker for me.
At the time when I was shopping for my vac, that narrowed it down to Roborock Q Revo and Roborock S8 PRO. Q Revo is a midrange model at $900 where as S8 PRO is $1600. S8 PRO has it all, even though it has Structured light sensor, it also has additional lasers to help it identify things, but I just couldn't stomach the price. So I went with Q Revo which at the time I bought for $700 on sale and I've been pretty happy with it. Because Q Revo lacks additional sensors for obstacles, it's obstacle avoidance is dog shit, it gives me more problems than it's worth, so I disabled it altogether in the app. When I initiate my cleaning cycle I quickly run through the house and pick up debris like legos and other junk on the floor. Sometimes I miss something and I start hearing a grinding noise from vac so I pause it and flip it over and sure enough it sucked some small piece of junk in the roller or wheel. Not a deal breaker for me, but would've been nice to have good obstacle avoidance, but I wasn't prepared to pay double for it.
Since then, more great vacuum robots with structured light hit market and now there's an option in $1k range with features I'm looking for like Ecovacs T20 Omni. Like I said, your needs and what's important for you maybe different from what's important for me. I'm happy with Q Revo but floor does take a bit of "prep" when I run it because of basically no obstacle avoidance.
Have you heard of Vacuum Wars? He has a channel on YouTube where he reviews and rates vacuums and also has a web site. This is the resource I used extensively when researching which vacuum is best for my needs and budget.
https://www.youtube.com/@VacuumWars
https://www.vacuumwars.
I'd say I'm looking for the same features you pointed out; minimal maintenance, mop, self refilling mop, and good obstacle/debree avoidance... but I honestly don't mind cameras, I'd even say I'd prefer them if they improve mapping and avoidance.
I'd like to not spend $700/$800, but if you think Q Revo is the best fit, I'll get it.
I'd just ask a follow-up to you since you did a lot of research and likely already know the answer; for someone who doesn't care about cameras; is there a better fit that has cameras and includes all the same features? (minimal maintenance, mop, self refilling mop, and good obstacle/debree avoidance.)
Thanks again!
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