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Victron Energy SmartSolar MPPT 150/45 Charge Controller

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Probedude
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For 150/45, the 150 is max PV voltage. 45 is the amps.

12/24/36/48 is pack voltage.

What I've seen is charge controllers are amp limited. So going to higher battery voltage will allow the controller to deliver higher watts vs lower battery pack voltage.

High PV input voltage allows you to series connect panels and not have to use high gauge wire between the panels and controller
RandallDeals
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Wow, Victron never goes on sale. Victron quality is top tier. Unfortunately, the one piece of gear I need is not on sale.
dimjim
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Very likely yes, you will need some sort of solar charge controller, and Victron is a very solid brand.

Work backwards from the voltage of your house battery system (12v/24v/35v/48v), then if you have a general idea of how many watts you want (or can fit) on the RV roof, then that'll roughly give you your amps by dividing your desired watts by the battery voltage - for instance 800 watts divided by 24v battery system = 33.3amps, so you'd likely want a 30a or higher Victron unit. Then the first number in these model names is max solar panel input voltage into the charge controller (i.e. 100V, 150V - the higher the number, the more panels you can put in series - reducing gauge/cost of PV wire, but you can always compromise and run a series & parallel config to kind of get a medium voltage).

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QA
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Quote from Cozz :
Can anyone help me with this- I have (4) 200w/20v panels, totalling 800w. (I'm also considering buying another (2) 200w panels down the line. I also have 4 12 volt/80 amp batteries. This is completely an off grid system. Anyone would have an idea of which unit I should purchase?

Really depends, what voltage are you planning on running your battery bank at? 12V?
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Cozz
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Quote from dimjim :
Really depends, what voltage are you planning on running your battery bank at? 12V?
I'm not really sure tbh. I have 12-volt inverters, but I'm willing to go to a 24-volt inverter if need be. I'm building it slowly for an old barn. Thanks.
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Hotandfree
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Quote from chadp :
To confirm if you try putting more solar into it(more than 100v), It just doesn't flow? Correct? It doesn't hurt anything? Correct? It just caps out at 100. I think
Sorry, I don't know if it caps out at 100V or it will damage the controller. Anyway, 100V is quite high so the simple solar setup. My solar setup output ~70V
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topcho
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Unfortunately, it's only the charge controllers that are discounted.
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Quote from dimjim :
Yes, that's roughly correct. Unfortunately VOC varies with temperature, you can find a chart, but 2 of those 550W panels could exceed 100V at cold(er) temps, and you really don't want to exceed the 100V max input voltage or you risk frying the controller. Personally I would go with a 150V controller in your case. And yes, definitely advantageous running your batteries in parallel to 24V.
Thank you. In my case that would be the 150/45. To be precise, my battery is a LiFePo 12.8V so 550/12.8 = 43A. And I think you meant running my batteries in SERIES to get 24V.

Appreciate the reply.
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Quote from Cozz :
I'm not really sure tbh. I have 12-volt inverters, but I'm willing to go to a 24-volt inverter if need be. I'm building it slowly for an old barn. Thanks.

I'd just buy the highest amp controller you can, or you can actually run 2 lower amp controllers onto the same batteries - that might be cheaper and more flexible. Look up the VOC of your 200W panels as that's (roughly) the max they will output, and I would likely suggest a combined series/parallel configuration for a middling voltage or 50-100V, which will save you on gauge of PV wire, especially if panels are far from your controller. I think you can only parallel 4 or 5 panels with MC4 combiners, but you can combine with series and get good results. 12V vs 24v battery is a tough call, since you already own 12V inverters, probably best to just stick with them, but that means you'll need a higher amp charge controller.

Edit: Also, for those reading this thread who want to get a good, basic, easy-to-understand guide to these types of systems, I highly recommend Will Prowse's book in paperback - not affiliated or anything, but the book helped me a lot and his youtube videos as well: https://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Sol...1546567119
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Anyone knows what is the max input current each tracker accepts? Having hard time finding the exact max value. Before anyone answers 45amps! That number is at the rate it charges the batteries. Not the max input current.

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soloma
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Quote from chadp :
To confirm if you try putting more solar into it(more than 100v), It just doesn't flow? Correct? It doesn't hurt anything? Correct? It just caps out at 100. I think
You get it wrong. Its not power station. If your input goes above 100V it will blow capacitors and may cause unit meltdown. Overpalleling works for wattage, not for voltage. YOu can add more panels to increase Amps but must stay below 100V.
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Quote from Ra3r0 :
Anyone knows what is the max input current each tracker accepts? Having hard time finding the exact max value. Before anyone answers 45amps! That number is at the rate it charges the batteries. Not the max input current.
you know math, right? Pin=Pout/0.9; Pin=Vin*Iin; Pout=Vout*Iout.
Vout is 14V or 24V; Iout is 45A
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Quote from Ra3r0 :
Anyone knows what is the max input current each tracker accepts? Having hard time finding the exact max value. Before anyone answers 45amps! That number is at the rate it charges the batteries. Not the max input current.

https://www.victronenergy.com/upl...-45-EN.pdf -
Notice the row - Nominal PV power 1a, b)
and also the row: Max. PV short circuit current 2)


1a) If more PV power is connected, the controller will limit input power.
1b) The PV voltage must exceed Vbat + 5 V for the controller to start. Thereafter the minimum PV voltage is Vbat + 1 V.
2) A PV array with a higher short circuit current may damage the controller
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PeterC5715
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Can someone help me which MPPT for ten 100W 12V Solar Panels?
Thanks.
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Quote from Ra3r0 :
Anyone knows what is the max input current each tracker accepts? Having hard time finding the exact max value. Before anyone answers 45amps! That number is at the rate it charges the batteries. Not the max input current.
It doesn't "accept" the current. It "makes" it. I don't think there is a current rating. You can't overwhelm it with current. Look at its total power on the backend (battery voltage * amperes) to see whether you can utilize all the power of the PV's.
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Quote from PeterC5715 :
Can someone help me which MPPT for ten 100W 12V Solar Panels?
Thanks.

If using 12v battery, you'd need around 83A,
24V battery, ~42A
36V battery, ~28A
48V battery, ~21A
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Anyone have a site/vlog/social media they could share, showing your personal setup with this? I'm curious to what you all have going with your solar setups, looking to get inspired.

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Quote from MaratV :
Is this something I should get if I'm planning to buy an RV and install solar panels on top?
Yes, probably and if you get an MPPT, these are the best. However, another approach would be to buy a "Solar Generator", (e.g. Ecoflow or Anker), rather than batteries. Solar generators are more $$$, but they usually have a built in MPPT controller.

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