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Lutron Caseta Wireless Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch (2 Count) Starter Kit with Pedestals for Pico Remotes
Adjusting lights and shades from a smart phone has never been easier or more reliable. Experience the ultimate convenience with the Lutron Caseta Wireless dimmer Pico remote control and Smart Bridge. The wireless dimmer gives you the ability to set the right light for any activity whether it's reading, watching TV, entertaining, or having a casual dinner. The dimmer works up to 600 watts of incandescent or halogen and 150 watts of dimmable LED or dimmable CFL. Control the lights from anywhere in the room by using the Pico remote control by mounting the remote directly to the wall for multi-location dimming - no cutting holes or wiring required!
- PEACE OF MIND: Set lights to automatically adjust with changing seasons so your family always comes back to a well-lit home; you can also enable the smart away feature to randomly turn your lights on and off to look like you're home even if you're away
- MOST CONNECTED: Caseta connects with more leading smart home devices – including Amazon Alexa, Apple Home Kit, the Google Assistant, Ring, Serena shades and Sonos – than any other smart lighting control brand
- CONTROL YOUR WAY: Caseta puts the smarts in the switch so you can control a variety of ways – via the free Lutron app, your voice or from the wall; create personalized schedules to change lights at set times or activate scenes with the touch of a button
- RELIABLY SMART: The smart bridge doesn't use Wi-Fi, so you get super-fast, ultra-reliable smart lighting that works right, without slowing your Wi-Fi down with more devices
- SET IT AND FORGET IT: Always keep your smart light functionality; even when the Wi-Fi goes down, there's no need to reset your schedules and scenes or reconnect everything when it comes back online
- GET MORE, SPEND LESS: One Caseta smart switch can control many bulbs at once; make many bulbs smart, even your existing bulbs; get smart control of multiple styles of dimmable LED, incandescent and halogen bulbs
- WORKS IN ANY HOME: Unlike other smart dimmer switches, Caseta Works in any home, of any age, as it does not require a neutral wire
- EASY 3-WAY SETUP: Create a 3-way by mounting the included Pico to almost any wall surface without cutting holes or pulling wire, with a Pico wallmount bracket (PICO-WBX-ADAPT sold separately); you can also replace existing 3-way switches by mounting the bracket and Pico over the backbox
- TECHNICAL DETAILS: Works with up to 150-Watt dimmable LED light bulbs/CFL light bulbs or 600-Watt incandescent bulbs/halogen bulbs; not rated for low voltage applications (i.e. track or landscape lighting)
- Includes (2) Lutron Caseta smart dimmer switches with white wallplates, (1) smart bridge, (2) Pico remotes, and (2) pedestals for Pico remotes
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lutron.../155985398
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Note that if you have neutrals available in either of your 2 3 way switch locations (and it's very likely that you do if your house was wired in the last 20 years or so), TP-Link's Kasa product line offers cheaper alternatives both for 3 way on/offs and 3 way dimmer setups, which connect via your WiFi.
I use both Lutron Casetas and TP Link Kasas in my house, and will defer to the cheaper TP Link Kasa products if I have neutrals available.
I have Casetas in use for the following scenarios:
1. Adding 3 way switching to an existing light previously only controlled by a single switch.
2.. Adding a dimmer switch to bathroom lighting where a neutral was not available in the switch box.
3. Ceiling fan switches.
4. 4 way switching (one Caseta wired switch at the first 3 way location, and 2 or more Pico remotes at the intermediate 4 way switch locations and last 3 way location).
Other than that, the TP-Link Kasas are my go to, with their dimmers and on/offs often on sale in the $10/12 range. Caseta switches are generally in the $60-70 range. .
How is the reliability of the tplink? I have many of the caseta switches which as far as a tech product has been absolutely rock solid for me. No rebooting, no troubleshooting, they just work. I'm a bit hesitant in spending cash to get into a system that I need to start rebooting routers to troubleshoot.
I ask because I really don't like the old caseta switch design that is this deal. Fumbling around to press buttons in the dark is annoying and the fact that you can't save dimming levels. It seems the new diva design fixes this but as you said $50/switch isn't cheap.
I ask because I really don't like the old caseta switch design that is this deal. Fumbling around to press buttons in the dark is annoying and the fact that you can't save dimming levels. It seems the new diva design fixes this but as you said $50/switch isn't cheap.
I do suggest making sure you have robust and well located 2.4 Ghz WiFi - I have a TP-Link Omada access point mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the first floor of our 2 story home. Prior to that installation, I had a consumer grade WiFi router configured as an access point located in a "media closet" at the back of the house, and one of the TP-Link on/offs on the front wall of the house would occasionally lose connectivity.
My Casetas are rock solid but I agree the ergonomic design of the old switches is pretty lousy - I actually just removed Casetas from a 3 way dimmer switch setup and 4 way dimmer switch setup in our kitchen when I realized we NEVER bother dimming those lights, and replaced those switches with Kasa 3 way on/offs with standard switches in the other locations (TP-Link doesn't advertise it, but their 3 way on/offs will work for 4 way setups). Keep in mind that the Kasa switches take some getting used to as well - the bottom part of the switch serves both the on/off functions, but I think they're more intuitive than the Casetas.
I will say between Alexa voice commands, Alexa routines, and Home Assistant automations, we rarely touch the switches in the house, but I'll always go for the ~$10 Kasa switch versus a ~$60 Caseta switch when making something smart, except in those unique situations mentioned in my post above where Casetas offer the only solution.
Note that if you have neutrals available in either of your 2 3 way switch locations (and it's very likely that you do if your house was wired in the last 20 years or so), TP-Link's Kasa product line offers cheaper alternatives both for 3 way on/offs and 3 way dimmer setups, which connect via your WiFi.
I use both Lutron Casetas and TP Link Kasas in my house, and will defer to the cheaper TP Link Kasa products if I have neutrals available.
I have Casetas in use for the following scenarios:
1. Adding 3 way switching to an existing light previously only controlled by a single switch.
2.. Adding a dimmer switch to bathroom lighting where a neutral was not available in the switch box.
3. Ceiling fan switches.
4. 4 way switching (one Caseta wired switch at the first 3 way location, and 2 or more Pico remotes at the intermediate 4 way switch locations and last 3 way location).
Other than that, the TP-Link Kasas are my go to, with their dimmers and on/offs often on sale in the $10/12 range. Caseta switches are generally in the $60-70 range. .
This all presumes you want 3 way dimming in your scenario. If you simply want 3 way on/offs, you'll have to buy a Caseta on/off, which will require a neutral wire in one of the 3 way switch locations, which should be available. You'd also have to purchase a Pico on/off remote, in which case you'd want to look for an "all-in-one" kit that includes both the wired Caseta on/off and Pico on/off remote. Wiring is essentially the same, except that a neutral is required in the wired switch location.
Both scenarios above can be extended to a 4 way switching situation (3 or more switching locations) simply by adding more Pico remotes to the existing switch locations in however many switch locations you have. They can also be used to add 3 or 4 way switching to a single switch scenario, again simply by pairing one (for a 3 way setup) or more (for a 4 way setup) Pico remotes to the wired Caseta switch at the original single point switch location - Lutron has wall mounting hardware for the Picos that make it possible to simply surface mount them to any blank wall, appearing to be existing wall switches to anyone who didn't know otherwise - their Pico wall mounting adapters accept a standard wall plate.
Keep in mind too that Lutron has a new design out for their on/off and dimmer switches, the Lutron Claro on/off and the Lutron Diva dimmer - they have a more standard "Decora" style paddle versus the push buttons on the older Caseta on/offs and dimmers. Their existing Pico remotes will pair with the newer style switches.
Also I'll continue to shill for the TP-Link Kasa WiFi switches . There are Kasa 3 way on/off and Kasa 3 way dimmer solutions available at lower cost - only their 3 way on/offs will work in a 4 way switching scenario though - the 3 way dimmers can't handle a 4 way switching situation as far as I know.