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expired Posted by cincyworldtraveler • Nov 17, 2023
expired Posted by cincyworldtraveler • Nov 17, 2023

PHILIPS Saeco Xelsis Super Automatic Espresso Machine (SM7684/04) - $1169

$1,169

$1,599

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Solid deal on the top-end of Saeco/Philips Super Automatic espresso machines, within $20 of a previous deal. I have an older model, nothing beats having your espresso drinks on demand. If you're spending $5 a coffee at Starbucks daily, your annual spend is basically the cost of this machine. I would recommend buying with a credit card that offers extended warranty - if you still have one of the few Citi cards that automatically adds 2 years to the end of the manufacturer's warranty, that would be best. Sometimes the durability of superautomatics can be hit or miss, especially if you don't follow the maintenance schedule.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G3XYR3R
  • With Philips Saeco Xelsis easily make up to 15 coffee varieties from common Espresso and Capuccino to specialty coffees like Flat White or Americano. Simply swipe the touchscreen to select the drink and customize it with our intuitive Coffee Equalizer.Filter type:Reusable.Power consumption stand-by : 0.5W, Drip tray capacity : 500 ml
  • 15 Coffee Varieties at Your Fingertips: Explore the world of coffee - Espresso, cappuccino, macchiato, and a range of specialty drinks
  • Personalized Preferences: Everyone's custom coffee favorites can be saved in up to 6 user profiles for instant selection. Personalize each profile down to the finest detail
  • LatteDuo Milk System: Prepare and enjoy single or double serving of any coffee recipe with one touch, including Cappuccino or Latte Macchiato
  • Double Thermo Blocks: Dedicated for both brewing and steaming offer accurate temperature controls for every drink in your recipe book
A good review is here: https://www.coffeeness.de/en/saec...is-review/

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Solid deal on the top-end of Saeco/Philips Super Automatic espresso machines, within $20 of a previous deal. I have an older model, nothing beats having your espresso drinks on demand. If you're spending $5 a coffee at Starbucks daily, your annual spend is basically the cost of this machine. I would recommend buying with a credit card that offers extended warranty - if you still have one of the few Citi cards that automatically adds 2 years to the end of the manufacturer's warranty, that would be best. Sometimes the durability of superautomatics can be hit or miss, especially if you don't follow the maintenance schedule.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G3XYR3R
  • With Philips Saeco Xelsis easily make up to 15 coffee varieties from common Espresso and Capuccino to specialty coffees like Flat White or Americano. Simply swipe the touchscreen to select the drink and customize it with our intuitive Coffee Equalizer.Filter type:Reusable.Power consumption stand-by : 0.5W, Drip tray capacity : 500 ml
  • 15 Coffee Varieties at Your Fingertips: Explore the world of coffee - Espresso, cappuccino, macchiato, and a range of specialty drinks
  • Personalized Preferences: Everyone's custom coffee favorites can be saved in up to 6 user profiles for instant selection. Personalize each profile down to the finest detail
  • LatteDuo Milk System: Prepare and enjoy single or double serving of any coffee recipe with one touch, including Cappuccino or Latte Macchiato
  • Double Thermo Blocks: Dedicated for both brewing and steaming offer accurate temperature controls for every drink in your recipe book
A good review is here: https://www.coffeeness.de/en/saec...is-review/

Even better deal if you have an Amazon % or $ off coupon for paying with Discover cashback or Amex MR points.

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Model: PHILIPS Saeco Xelsis Super Automatic Espresso Machine - LatteDuo Milk System, 15 Coffee Varieties, 6 User Profiles, Touchscreen, Black & Titanium, (SM7684/04)

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Nov 18, 2023
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jamespotato5
Nov 18, 2023
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I keep checking this thread for comments, but nothing. I'm wondering if this is better than the Lattego 5400, and how it compares to the Juras in quality of espresso. Thanks
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Nov 19, 2023
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cincyworldtraveler
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Nov 19, 2023
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Quote from jamespotato5 :
I keep checking this thread for comments, but nothing. I'm wondering if this is better than the Lattego 5400, and how it compares to the Juras in quality of espresso. Thanks
That Coffeeness web site (https://www.coffeeness.de/en/ ) really dives into the details on the various offerings from Philips, Jura, and other manufacturers. If I remember correctly, the Xelsis is an older design - maybe 4-5 years ago? It was positioned as a top-line premium model for Saeco, with double boilers and lots of bells/whistles. I believe it was about $2K when it first came out. LatteGo is single boiler, but a newer design with a different milk system that may be easier to use/clean. I think Philips is trying to sell through the old Saeco inventory so they can discontinue the brand, so that's probably the reason for the big price drop.

Last holiday season, I ended up replacing my 10 year old Saeco machine with the DeLonghi Dinamica Plus. I had strongly considered the Xelsis but the DeLonghi was something like $200-$300 cheaper at Macy's of all places...which allowed me to use a shopping portal that netted me 20K+ airline miles! The DeLonghi is one of the top rated models on that Coffeeness and I'd say it lives up to the hype. It makes great espresso and is far easier to live with from a maintenance perspective. Our 2012 Saeco's maintenance schedule was a monthly ordeal that took a lot of time/attention - not so with the DeLonghi! It only needs descaling about once a quarter and the process is a breeze compared to the 10-year old Saeco (not sure how it compares to the Xelsis).

I just checked and the DeLonghi Dinamica Plus is actually $1299 right now at Amazon, that's a pretty good deal (lowest price ever per camelcamelcamel). I think I paid $1300-something last year. I'd always recommend getting one of these superautomatic espresso machines from Amazon, Macy's, Costco, or some other place where returns are free/easy in case the machine doesn't meet your expectations. These machines are complicated and all of the manufacturers will occasionally produce a dud - it's so hard reading Amazon customer reviews because people tend to love or hate the models with not a lot of middle ground. You also get people complaining about broken machines because they committed the cardinal sins of using oily beans or never maintaining/cleaning the machine.
Nov 23, 2023
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fewlio
Nov 23, 2023
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this is the most flexible and powerful unit that allows you to control many different factors in the coffee's drink's creation. that price is same or better than refurrbed units and this one is new
Nov 24, 2023
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Nov 24, 2023
didja
Nov 24, 2023
266 Posts
Thought there might be other Black Friday options for super automatics but it looks like this one is the best value? The customization seems like it puts it in the Jura category (rather than the $400-$800 category) and makes it more likely that I could dial it in to get closer to a manual setup but not sure if that's true.
Nov 27, 2023
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potothewer
Nov 27, 2023
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this or jura ena 8?
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Dec 12, 2023
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DragonflyPunch
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Dec 12, 2023
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I almost bought this yesterday at the Philips site sale (it was on sale for $1019). But decided not to, and will wait for a 5400 Lattego sale. I do realize that the Xelsis has a dual boiler and is a higher end machine, but the separate on counter milk carafe just seems unsightly and I just know it'll be inconvenient taking up separate counter space. Plus you have to take out the wand and run the clean cycle every time. I know I'm nitpicking here but superautomatics are all about convenience. The lattego machines has its carafe attached to the machine which just seems like a better design.

The 5400 lattego goes on sale for $900 regularly. Some older discounts have been steeper but haven't seen anything lower than $900 off late. So that saves a couple of hundred dollars as well.

In terms of coffee taste both machines are essentially similar. I'm pretty sure I'll not be able to tell the difference in taste.

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