frontpage Posted by fewlio • Nov 21, 2023
Nov 21, 2023 9:34 PM
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frontpage Posted by fewlio • Nov 21, 2023
Nov 21, 2023 9:34 PM
Begode Master Electric Unicycle
& More + Free S&H$2,000
$2,899
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I've had the Master a year now and I think it's great, for 2100 it's ideal for someone who is looking to step up from a non suspension wheel.
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What are the dangers of commuting on a unicycle?
https://www.quora.com/What-are-th...a-unicycle
Here's an expert's post:
"Your skill level—that is, technique and physical fitness—should be very good if you're seriously attempting to commute on one wheel. You are asking about commuting, so I assume your skills are very good.
You just need to remember that you've got a single point of contact with the ground. If you slide, it doesn't take much to fall. Sure, you can get good at it. But, as my father would say, you can't break the laws of physics."
Sounds very familiar! My own words almost exactly. I must be a born unicycle maestro genius to have known these things without ever having ridden one!
No, of course not, even if some clown has been able to do it successfully without being killed.
To each his own, if you like risking your life riding around at 40+ mph on an electric unicycle,
or if you're skilled enough (expert or more) that it's not much of a concern, so be it.
I for one am very proud to have provided valuable warnings to my fellow Slickdealers.
I never said I don't like them, by the way, and that assumption says a lot about you.
I have no problem with an electric unicycle grandmaster who is truly safe, or the electric unicycle itself. On the contrary, I think they are a marvelous feat of modern engineering. I also respect anyone who can ride one at an advanced level.
Some animals are very dangerous, but does that mean I hate them? Absolutely not! Lions, tigers, cheetahs and other big cats for example, some of the most beautiful, amazing, fastest land animals. I love them, but I know they are very dangerous.
No, of course not, even if some clown has been able to do it successfully without being killed.
To each his own, if you like risking your life riding around at 40+ mph on an electric unicycle,
or if you're skilled enough (expert or more) that it's not much of a concern, so be it.
I for one am very proud to have provided valuable warnings to my fellow Slickdealers.
It's not debating or arguing if you make false statements, it's called lying, so stop it.
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Looks like you did not give up after all!
Thanks for helping to warn everyone.
I strongly considered an EUC over a one wheel b/c one wheel felt unsafe and unstable for me. But EUCs need more upkeep, can't go on sand, have worse reliability, and you have to do a lot of electrical handy work.
Plus they're way more expensive at least $1500+ for anything semi decent.
My G2 Max has suspension in it and I think suspension is an important safety feature when you're going over 20-30. MPH depending on your comfort level.
I do not doubt that more skilled people in general ride electric unicycles, and that there are a lot of idiots riding electric scooters. My position is that the same person with the same amount of time on both an electric unicycle and scooter will be much safer on the scooter, at least up until a certain point.
As for riding an electric unicycle, I wouldn't even attempt it. It would be far too risky for me. I nearly fell off a hoverboard already. It would take too much time and effort to master either one, and it would take even longer to become skilled enough to use either of them for practical purposes, like I do with my electric scooter.
Also, riding an electric unicycle looks totally ridiculous. Electric scooters look a lot more normal and socially acceptable imo. While I'm not overly concerned with how I look, it would not be fun to have people laugh at me on a unicycle.
I have never been injured from using a scooter. I did however, bang the scooter into my
size 13 foot a couple of times, but it only hurt for a very short while and did not leave a mark.
A bike is not as safe as a scooter, but imo both bikes and scooters are safer than unicycles, except possibly at the most advanced levels.
I would only consider using a unicycle as an excellent way to work the core, but only in a park or other semi-controlled environment.
Funniest thing I've seen all month:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/attac...1642442
There are no other riders
EUCs are still a fairly new type of PEV with the first models only hitting the market ~7 years ago at low volumes. There's been a lot more interest over the last few years, especially with the push for more alternatives to car transit, and EUCs entering the race scene.
The 5 main brands have stepped up their competition with big improvements to usability, safety, quality, and performance. Still pretty early on though, so there have still been some problems coming from the manufacturers. Anyone looking to get into this hobby should plan on spending a lot of time doing research on the available wheels.
Girl dies after falling off hover board, her family urges others to use helmets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_z2Z-qjOU
Unicycle accident in NYC, almost killed him even with great helmet and protective gear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xixqltq
Your personal anecdote of having never been in an accident on your scooter doesn't have any bearing on the rate of scooter accidents. Trying to make that argument is a logical fallacy. Couldn't I say the same thing about EUCs? I'm now 1300 miles in and have never been in a major accident. The worst "crash" I had was at 10 mph when I stupidly tried to swerve past some wet leaves and clipped a construction cone that threw me off my wheel. I was fully geared, so went mostly unscathed. I've had worse accidents on my bicycle... Regardless of PEV type, some riders are more risk averse than others, and some are just more lucky than others. If a car pulled up behind me and decided to run me over, regardless if I were on a bike, scooter, or EUC... I'd still probably be dead or seriously injured.
Just because a PEV can go fast doesn't mean all owners ride to the limits. People ride within their comfort zone. Powerful EUCs are as much about safety as they are about speed; maybe even more so. The power of the motor dictates how far you can lean forward (accelerate) without overpowering it and falling forward. It also dictates how hard and fast you can brake for reduced stopping distance.
Sure, some people don't fully understand just how dangerous EUCs can be, just like there are plenty of e-scooter, one wheel, e-sk8, and e-bike riders who ride too fast for the conditions or their experience level, or ride without gear not realizing just how serious a crash can be at the speeds they're traveling. The EUC community promotes properly gearing up and often pushes back on riders promoting dangerous riding habits. That's more than can be said for a lot of other PEV communities.
The EUC rider accident link you posted is someone who ran into the side of a car in NYC where traffic is nuts. Those types of accidents happen to riders of all forms of transportation, even non-motorized. Try looking up the volume of car vs pedal bicycle accidents sometime. In NYC in 2020, during the lockdown no less, there were 12,450 bicycle accidents, 28 of which were fatal. Fact is, more people than ever are biking or riding PEVs, and that means more interactions between cars and bikes/PEVs. The cars always win. PEVs traveling at faster speeds with newer novice riders that aren't great at gauging risk with be an issue regardless of the type of PEV they ride.
Look at all of the accidents involving rental scooters. Bunch of people jumping on them with no gear and no experience, having no way to gauge whether the unit is functioning properly, improperly locking up their brakes, and flying over the handlebars and landing on their skulls, or flying across intersections and getting hit by cars.
One major benefit to EUCs is that you can't just jump on it and go, and the vast majority of the time riders own their own units. You actually have to spend hours learning to properly ride it, watching training videos from the community that, again, almost always promote wearing safety gear. Also, because of the inherent instability of an EUC and the single point of contact that will lead to a crash if any of the powertrain were to fail, EUC riders typically fully gear up knowing the risks. Other PEV riders may not take gear as seriously because of the lower risk of crash from a powertrain failure.
The things you don't ever hear too often (had to read posts on a EUC only forum)
- if you buying any of these from a dealer with a warranty's expect that once you step on it and take it for a spin the resell drops %50 or more. sure you can list it high and hope someone buys it that's got the addiction bug like JDM civic resellers do. but many complain they won't buy a used EUC there's too many issues. for example a v12 battery replacement cost $6-900 if they didn't charge it properly or had it sit or bought it from aliexpress you got to ask where they got it from even then these hobbyists are tearing down and replacing and tweaking these wheels even with only a few hundred miles on them. I sure the hell don't trust someone tearing it down or replacing things it's pretty nuts to take these risks. This is tech and it moves fast they are releasing tons of wheels almost every 6 months meaning it's quicky dropping prices turning a possibly 4k wheel into $1500 if you want that cushy warranty. oh and you will pay shipping for these 50lb+ items or what is common the dealer will send you the replacement items and you have to diy. expect to be working on your wheel unless you live in next to one of these distributors.
- People will stop you and make small talk 24/7 everywhere you go which seems annoying as hell. never thought about it till watching some videos so anything you plan on doing expect 60% your plans involving being stopped and asked tons of questions, removing the fact you are "saving time" commuting or traveling unless you just straight up ignore everyone and never stop, yet red lights and grocery stores, small stops ect.
- No matter the gear it seems likely you will end up breaking something mainly a shoulder. just go watch videos of falls at lower speeds like 20-30mph faster seems like it would be easier since you can slide off higher speeds safer than tumbling sideways and no way to not take the impact it's either shoulder, elbow, or wrist from most to less likely. worst case you have your hands behind you and fall or up too high and you end up breaking ribs. gear will stop all road rash. however, the persons weight and awkward falls no armor will stop gravity from doing it's thing.
It's a super small niche that means selling and buying used will take so much time unless you get a first timer that just want's to ride and doesn't care about cash. these people are taking everything apart from the minute they purchase the wheels to fix and repair them. sure could be a good thing but also know that you won't know if they did the job well or not until it comes time. In summary. Broken bones will happen just a matter of when or if a fall scares someone enough they quit riding. No matter what wheel you ever purchase ALWAYS know that you are generally going to lose hundreds if not thousands and possibly a terrifying hospital bill. All the info I gathered from EUC just got me furious and angry because everyone is just trying to resell their item to buy the next big thing and will do anything to achieve that goal.Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.
also, some mention that flying off a motorcyle at high speeds results in fewer injuries than an accident at low speeds. The catch is that your body doesn't collide with any hard object, but a lot of force is moving you forward so if you got leather gear (or if there's a synthetic equivalent) most of the force is spent going on a long slide on the asphault, it's less than the force of gravity taking you down to the ground. But, the slower you go means the gravity / falling force is becoming an equal or bigger number in the accident equation.
THAT SAID, flying off a motorcycle or e-vehicle at high speed gives you a greater chance of being killed or maimed if the accident involves some high speed collision between your body and some other vehicle out on the roads. so really, the slow fall may hurt more than a high speed fall/long slide, but it's a lot better than dying or becoming a paraplegic. so just gear up always and don't ride carelessly.
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