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Rf native is the way, although I've adapted some sigma on it with good success. I bought this to hold me off until the r5m2 comes out
I second this. I have native RF24-105L, RF50, and an RF35, but I've heard great things regarding adapted EF lenses. I recommend the RF24-105 (even the non-L is very capable, just slower), especially if you can find a refurb deal. Sigma is a solid 3rd-party choice, and Tamron may be worth a look as well.
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Decent price, but I finally figured out what I want... refurbished R6 with refurbished 24-105 lens to start with. Bookmarked the canon refurbished site and will get these if and when they come up for sale.
Unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger on the R6 and it went out of stock. I'm patient.
If this was $899 refurbished I'd consider it. To answer your question, the refurbished RF 24-105 lens would be a great starter lens. You can also get this camera bundled with the 24-50 lens which isn't as good of a value but still a good way to get started. These RF lenses are sharper than old lenses and perform quite reasonably, especially when combined with the built in corrections the camera makes to compensate for the lens.
You can also get a Panasonic S5 for under $1000 which runs circles around the R8 in many ways. I got myself concerned by the lenses developing spots on them though. I don't know how widespread this is but enough people are getting the runaround from Panasonic to sour me from choosing them.
Decent price, but I finally figured out what I want... refurbished R6 with refurbished 24-105 lens to start with. Bookmarked the canon refurbished site and will get these if and when they come up for sale.
Unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger on the R6 and it went out of stock. I'm patient.
If this was $899 refurbished I'd consider it. To answer your question, the refurbished RF 24-105 lens would be a great starter lens. You can also get this camera bundled with the 24-50 lens which isn't as good of a value but still a good way to get started. These RF lenses are sharper than old lenses and perform quite reasonably, especially when combined with the built in corrections the camera makes to compensate for the lens.
You can also get a Panasonic S5 for under $1000 which runs circles around the R8 in many ways. I got myself concerned by the lenses developing spots on them though. I don't know how widespread this is but enough people are getting the runaround from Panasonic to sour me from choosing them.
Decent price, but I finally figured out what I want... refurbished R6 with refurbished 24-105 lens to start with. Bookmarked the canon refurbished site and will get these if and when they come up for sale.
Unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger on the R6 and it went out of stock. I'm patient.
If this was $899 refurbished I'd consider it. To answer your question, the refurbished RF 24-105 lens would be a great starter lens. You can also get this camera bundled with the 24-50 lens which isn't as good of a value but still a good way to get started. These RF lenses are sharper than old lenses and perform quite reasonably, especially when combined with the built in corrections the camera makes to compensate for the lens.
You can also get a Panasonic S5 for under $1000 which runs circles around the R8 in many ways. I got myself concerned by the lenses developing spots on them though. I don't know how widespread this is but enough people are getting the runaround from Panasonic to sour me from choosing them.
S5 doesn't even support phase detection auto focus.
How do you define "runs circles?"
Panasonic has a long tradition of poor focus, even their latest one that supports pdaf doesn't do it too well.
Yes S5 is a more capable video camera if you got separate focus system to go with it (almost all pro use Panasonic that way). But as photo camera, it is not better than r8
Want to go ff but wanted a lens in the 16 or 17 range. Currently have an apsc 17-55 2.8 USM. Anything comparable for full frame Canon under 2k?
APSC sensor is 1.6x smaller than FF. Field of View for 24mm on full frame is about the same as 16mm on aps-c (1.5x crop factor).
APSC lenses can't be used on FF because they won't be able to focus in the distance between sensor and glass. FF glass can be used on aps-c but the FOV will be different.
APSC sensor is 1.6x smaller than FF. Field of View for 24mm on full frame is about the same as 16mm on aps-c (1.5x crop factor).
APSC lenses can't be used on FF because they won't be able to focus in the distance between sensor and glass. FF glass can be used on aps-c but the FOV will be different.
Physically what determines if one lens can be used or not is the flange distance, which is the distance between the last glass to sensor.
Adding adapter will result in reducing of the flange distance (as you are adding more glass elements). So physical it is only possible to go from DLSR lens (which has long distance) to mirrorless (which so far has the shortest distance)..that's why EF to RF converter, F to Z converter exist, but the opposite doesn't.
On top of that, crop sensor camera can take advantage of FF dslr lens by adding concave lens to concentrate more light in smaller area (crop sensor) to create something called speed booster converter.
In theory, FF mirrorless camera can also use crop sensor DSLR lens, which will result in back out of none cropped area, or convex lens that spread light across the entire sensor, functions like speed reducer. Just no one is doing that, but that's has nothing to do with focus
Physically what determines if one lens can be used or not is the flange distance, which is the distance between the last glass to sensor.
Adding adapter will result in reducing of the flange distance (as you are adding more glass elements). So physical it is only possible to go from DLSR lens (which has long distance) to mirrorless (which so far has the shortest distance)..that's why EF to RF converter, F to Z converter exist, but the opposite doesn't.
On top of that, crop sensor camera can take advantage of FF dslr lens by adding concave lens to concentrate more light in smaller area (crop sensor) to create something called speed booster converter.
In theory, FF mirrorless camera can also use crop sensor DSLR lens, which will result in back out of none cropped area, or convex lens that spread light across the entire sensor, functions like speed reducer. Just no one is doing that, but that's has nothing to do with focus
Yes...but the original question was about 16-17mm focal length and my reply was in reference to equivalent field of view. Not saying you're wrong but I could see that as adding a lot of confusion to the poster asking.
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Unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger on the R6 and it went out of stock. I'm patient.
If this was $899 refurbished I'd consider it. To answer your question, the refurbished RF 24-105 lens would be a great starter lens. You can also get this camera bundled with the 24-50 lens which isn't as good of a value but still a good way to get started. These RF lenses are sharper than old lenses and perform quite reasonably, especially when combined with the built in corrections the camera makes to compensate for the lens.
https://www.usa.canon.c
You can also get a Panasonic S5 for under $1000 which runs circles around the R8 in many ways. I got myself concerned by the lenses developing spots on them though. I don't know how widespread this is but enough people are getting the runaround from Panasonic to sour me from choosing them.
https://www.dpreview.co
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Unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger on the R6 and it went out of stock. I'm patient.
If this was $899 refurbished I'd consider it. To answer your question, the refurbished RF 24-105 lens would be a great starter lens. You can also get this camera bundled with the 24-50 lens which isn't as good of a value but still a good way to get started. These RF lenses are sharper than old lenses and perform quite reasonably, especially when combined with the built in corrections the camera makes to compensate for the lens.
https://www.usa.canon.c
You can also get a Panasonic S5 for under $1000 which runs circles around the R8 in many ways. I got myself concerned by the lenses developing spots on them though. I don't know how widespread this is but enough people are getting the runaround from Panasonic to sour me from choosing them.
https://www.dpreview.co
Unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger on the R6 and it went out of stock. I'm patient.
If this was $899 refurbished I'd consider it. To answer your question, the refurbished RF 24-105 lens would be a great starter lens. You can also get this camera bundled with the 24-50 lens which isn't as good of a value but still a good way to get started. These RF lenses are sharper than old lenses and perform quite reasonably, especially when combined with the built in corrections the camera makes to compensate for the lens.
https://www.usa.canon.c
You can also get a Panasonic S5 for under $1000 which runs circles around the R8 in many ways. I got myself concerned by the lenses developing spots on them though. I don't know how widespread this is but enough people are getting the runaround from Panasonic to sour me from choosing them.
https://www.dpreview.co
How do you define "runs circles?"
Panasonic has a long tradition of poor focus, even their latest one that supports pdaf doesn't do it too well.
Yes S5 is a more capable video camera if you got separate focus system to go with it (almost all pro use Panasonic that way). But as photo camera, it is not better than r8
APSC lenses can't be used on FF because they won't be able to focus in the distance between sensor and glass. FF glass can be used on aps-c but the FOV will be different.
APSC lenses can't be used on FF because they won't be able to focus in the distance between sensor and glass. FF glass can be used on aps-c but the FOV will be different.
Adding adapter will result in reducing of the flange distance (as you are adding more glass elements). So physical it is only possible to go from DLSR lens (which has long distance) to mirrorless (which so far has the shortest distance)..that's why EF to RF converter, F to Z converter exist, but the opposite doesn't.
On top of that, crop sensor camera can take advantage of FF dslr lens by adding concave lens to concentrate more light in smaller area (crop sensor) to create something called speed booster converter.
In theory, FF mirrorless camera can also use crop sensor DSLR lens, which will result in back out of none cropped area, or convex lens that spread light across the entire sensor, functions like speed reducer. Just no one is doing that, but that's has nothing to do with focus
Adding adapter will result in reducing of the flange distance (as you are adding more glass elements). So physical it is only possible to go from DLSR lens (which has long distance) to mirrorless (which so far has the shortest distance)..that's why EF to RF converter, F to Z converter exist, but the opposite doesn't.
On top of that, crop sensor camera can take advantage of FF dslr lens by adding concave lens to concentrate more light in smaller area (crop sensor) to create something called speed booster converter.
In theory, FF mirrorless camera can also use crop sensor DSLR lens, which will result in back out of none cropped area, or convex lens that spread light across the entire sensor, functions like speed reducer. Just no one is doing that, but that's has nothing to do with focus
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