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5D Mk IV
And also a separate deal for the 6D Mk II
Sure, it doesn't diminish the utility of the horse and carriage...they'll still work. But mirrorless goes a lot further, lot faster, for a lot less money.
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Sure, it doesn't diminish the utility of the horse and carriage...they'll still work. But mirrorless goes a lot further, lot faster, for a lot less money.
Don't agree on the comparison. Dslrs are like cadillacs, mirrorless are like sports cars that can do everything the dslr can do with newer features.
If all you want is photo taking ability, dslrs are just fine. Mirrorless cameras aren't pocketable like cell phones, so they're still large and cluncky and have the same downside as dslrs.
If you want modern video specs, though, mirrorless are the only cameras that will offer that.
If all you want is photo taking ability, dslrs are just fine. Mirrorless cameras aren't pocketable like cell phones, so they're still large and cluncky and have the same downside as dslrs.
If you want modern video specs, though, mirrorless are the only cameras that will offer that.
We're talking about things at the same price point performing faster and better and more reliably. And that's mirrorless. Some people cling to ICEs, but EVs are the future -- and it's here now for mirrorless.
And you're talking about mirrorless being chunky? Compare your 5DmkIV to an R8. Go ahead, I'll wait for you to compare the specs, height/width, and weight.
We're talking about things at the same price point performing faster and better and more reliably. And that's mirrorless. Some people cling to ICEs, but EVs are the future -- and it's here now for mirrorless.
And you're talking about mirrorless being chunky? Compare your 5DmkIV to an R8. Go ahead, I'll wait for you to compare the specs, height/width, and weight.
My point about size is that it's not as drastic as horse and carriage to car.
I haven't followed the newest crops of Canon mirrorless, but I do wonder if they match the 5d4 in photo taking prowess, at a $1300 price point no less. That and ef lenses are seeing cheaper prices on the used market.
I mean, 1.5 years ago I picked up a 7d2 for $450 and a 100-400mkI for $475
You can't match that kind of lens image quality/range and camera functionality for only $900 on a mirrorless.
I haven't followed the newest crops of Canon mirrorless, but I do wonder if they match the 5d4 in photo taking prowess, at a $1300 price point no less. That and ef lenses are seeing cheaper prices on the used market.
I mean, 1.5 years ago I picked up a 7d2 for $450 and a 100-400mkI for $475
You can't match that kind of lens image quality/range and camera functionality for only $900 on a mirrorless.
We're comparing camera bodies here, not lenses. So your 7D2 would be absolutely beat by the $600 canon RP. Yes, it's a little bit more money, but night and day difference. Like comparing a horse to a car.
We're comparing camera bodies here, not lenses. So your 7D2 would be absolutely beat by the $600 canon RP. Yes, it's a little bit more money, but night and day difference. Like comparing a horse to a car.
I purposely said I hadn't followed the absolute latest to purposely let you know I might be wrong.
As for the 5d4, you didn't mention price, which I mentioned as a factor.
As for 7d2 VS RP, it's absolutely not that cut and dry. The RP, especially a year and a half ago was considered a dog of a camera because it was basically just a mirrorless 6D, which was not a compliment.
The only place a 6d/RP beat a 7d2 was in the fact that it had a full frame sensor, but at the sacrifice of the features on the 7d2.
The 7d2 was basically a pro camera in a crop frame prosumer body.
So an entry level full frame VS a pro level crop is not a cut and dry, "one is definitely better than the other."
That, and already owning or using ef-s lenses like the 10-18mm keeps the crop bodies relevant. Sure you can adapt a 10-18mm lens to the RP, but you negate any advantage that the full frame sensor provides and are essentially shooting with a crop sensor again. And if you already own an EF-S lens, but want a direct match, that's additional cost to get an equivalent RF lens.
So to say the RP is better than the 7d2 so quickly is bypassing all the major pros and cons of each.
Yes, I totally agree mirrorless is the future especially if you value video, but dslr's will hold plenty of their value proposition. And hopefully by then full frame RF mount canons will be easier to buy at lower prices, because I don't intend to upgrade unless it's a full frame that makes sense price wise.
As for the 5d4, you didn't mention price, which I mentioned as a factor.
As for 7d2 VS RP, it's absolutely not that cut and dry. The RP, especially a year and a half ago was considered a dog of a camera because it was basically just a mirrorless 6D, which was not a compliment.
The only place a 6d/RP beat a 7d2 was in the fact that it had a full frame sensor, but at the sacrifice of the features on the 7d2.
The 7d2 was basically a pro camera in a crop frame prosumer body.
So an entry level full frame VS a pro level crop is not a cut and dry, "one is definitely better than the other."
That, and already owning or using ef-s lenses like the 10-18mm keeps the crop bodies relevant. Sure you can adapt a 10-18mm lens to the RP, but you negate any advantage that the full frame sensor provides and are essentially shooting with a crop sensor again. And if you already own an EF-S lens, that's additional cost to get an equivalent RF lens.
So to say the RP is better than the 7d2 so quickly is bypassing all the major pros and cons of each.
Yes, I totally agree mirrorless is the future especially if you value video, but dslr's will hold plenty of their value proposition. And hopefully by then full frame RF mount canons will be easier to buy at lower prices, because I don't intend to upgrade unless it's a full frame that makes sense price wise.
You're bouncing between so many different bodies and lens types that weren't even mentioned earlier, so few of which have any relevance in this context. All on top of "I didn't do my homework, so I might be confidently wrong."