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expired Posted by jet61007 • Nov 26, 2023

Microsoft Surface Pro 9 Refurb i7/16/256 $859, i5/8/256 $639 - $859

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Looks like MS restocked a couple colors for refurb surface pro 9s

Colors: Sapphire OR Graphite

i7/16 GB/256 GB SSD $859

i7/16 GB/512 GB SSD $1,119

i5/8 GB/256 GB SSD $639

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/s...lor=9EBBE6
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Looks like MS restocked a couple colors for refurb surface pro 9s

Colors: Sapphire OR Graphite

i7/16 GB/256 GB SSD $859

i7/16 GB/512 GB SSD $1,119

i5/8 GB/256 GB SSD $639

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/s...lor=9EBBE6

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Nov 26, 2023
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m47150
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Still too high tbh. Coming from an owner of several Surface devices.
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Quote from mark47150 :
Still too high tbh. Coming from an owner of several Surface devices.
Agreed. It's a 12th gen intel CPU and the 14th gen is around the corner. Even 13th gen laptops have been massively discounted since the summer.

Of course, since they didn't release an SP10 at the usual release timeline, there is no reason for MS to discount last year's model.
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jet61007
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Quote from 11A :
Agreed. It's a 12th gen intel CPU and the 14th gen is around the corner. Even 13th gen laptops have been massively discounted since the summer.

Of course, since they didn't release an SP10 at the usual release timeline, there is no reason for MS to discount last year's model.
$1099 down to $859 for a i7 12th gen surface pro is still a good price reduction IMO.
- Concur that jumping from 12 (12th gen) to 16 (13th gen) or 20 (14th gen) cores will 100% show a difference....
...Waiting for MS to take advantage of these will put you at a minimum 6-12 months of waiting...unless you want the surface laptop studio!

MS Surface Pro devices are naturally more expensive than any of its competitors but I gotta say coming from a surface pro 7+ with an 11th gen i3 will be a massive boost. (4 to 12 cores, 8GB RAM to 16GB)

These devices truly just work as intended and have an awesome form factor when it comes to portability and standard use.
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Quote from jet61007 :
$1099 down to $859 for a i7 12th gen surface pro is still a good price reduction IMO.
- Concur that jumping from 12 (12th gen) to 16 (13th gen) or 20 (14th gen) cores will 100% show a difference....
...Waiting for MS to take advantage of these will put you at a minimum 6-12 months of waiting...unless you want the surface laptop studio!

MS Surface Pro devices are naturally more expensive than any of its competitors but I gotta say coming from a surface pro 7+ with an 11th gen i3 will be a massive boost. (4 to 12 cores, 8GB RAM to 16GB)

These devices truly just work as intended and have an awesome form factor when it comes to portability and standard use.
None of that is in question. I've purchased 6 surface devices over the past 2 years intending to keep 3 of them. Out of 6, I kept 1 and even the Surface Studio Laptop that I kept has a creaky hinge. The rest had uneven screens, mismatched aluminum, buttons with asymmetrical (tactile) clicks, one that kept restarting. I was fooled by the supposed higher quality of Syrface devices (thus the price).

Also, Surface devices may be even more egregious than Apple in price tiering.

Don't get me wrong, clearly I am here to find an SP9 at price I think is acceptable based on my anecdotal experiences.
Last edited by mark47150 November 26, 2023 at 11:03 AM.
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Quote from jet61007 :
$1099 down to $859 for a i7 12th gen surface pro is still a good price reduction IMO.
- Concur that jumping from 12 (12th gen) to 16 (13th gen) or 20 (14th gen) cores will 100% show a difference....
...Waiting for MS to take advantage of these will put you at a minimum 6-12 months of waiting...unless you want the surface laptop studio!

MS Surface Pro devices are naturally more expensive than any of its competitors but I gotta say coming from a surface pro 7+ with an 11th gen i3 will be a massive boost. (4 to 12 cores, 8GB RAM to 16GB)

These devices truly just work as intended and have an awesome form factor when it comes to portability and standard use.
"These devices truly just work as intended" - Boy I wish that were true. LMAO I have had the SP 4,5,6 and 7. None of them work as intended. They all keep restarting for no reason. They all have terrible standby. You leave the house, shove it in your breecase to go to a meeting, having sent it to sleep, then in your Uber you hear the notification sounds as it just comes alive for no reason. And by the time you get to your meeting, the battery is dead. All of them do this. Not just one of them.

They all overheat and get throttled to a crawl, no matter what CPU they ahve inside. (I need to run a small desk fan behind mine.)

Don't even get me started on the "12 hour battery life", which is 3 hours in reality.

And yes, I'll buy and SP9 or SP10 in spite of all that because of the portability. They do cost a ridiculous amount for last year's CPU and disappointing specs. I've never understood why they always come with last year's outgoing CPU. (Well, higher margins I guess.)​
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Quote from 11A :
"These devices truly just work as intended" - Boy I wish that were true. LMAO I have had the SP 4,5,6 and 7. None of them work as intended. They all keep restarting for no reason. They all have terrible standby. You leave the house, shove it in your breecase to go to a meeting, having sent it to sleep, then in your Uber you hear the notification sounds as it just comes alive for no reason. And by the time you get to your meeting, the battery is dead. All of them do this. Not just one of them.

They all overheat and get throttled to a crawl, no matter what CPU they ahve inside. (I need to run a small desk fan behind mine.)

Don't even get me started on the "12 hour battery life", which is 3 hours in reality.

And yes, I'll buy and SP9 or SP10 in spite of all that because of the portability. They do cost a ridiculous amount for last year's CPU and disappointing specs. I've never understood why they always come with last year's outgoing CPU. (Well, higher margins I guess.)​
Wow, I've had almost every version back to the first and I've NEVER experienced what you are talking about. They have all been stellar machines.
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Quote from 11A :
"These devices truly just work as intended" - Boy I wish that were true. LMAO I have had the SP 4,5,6 and 7. None of them work as intended. They all keep restarting for no reason. They all have terrible standby. You leave the house, shove it in your breecase to go to a meeting, having sent it to sleep, then in your Uber you hear the notification sounds as it just comes alive for no reason. And by the time you get to your meeting, the battery is dead. All of them do this. Not just one of them.

They all overheat and get throttled to a crawl, no matter what CPU they ahve inside. (I need to run a small desk fan behind mine.)

Don't even get me started on the "12 hour battery life", which is 3 hours in reality.

And yes, I'll buy and SP9 or SP10 in spite of all that because of the portability. They do cost a ridiculous amount for last year's CPU and disappointing specs. I've never understood why they always come with last year's outgoing CPU. (Well, higher margins I guess.)​
The number one reason I left Apple and came back to windows was because of the surface pro and windows finally fixing sleep/hibernate/power management. I can always bring my SP7 back to life within seconds…

I will say the thing will max out 8GB of RAM and start spiking 4 cores of a CPU with only having something like office and chrome open… nothing that forces it to a crawl or to become non functional or degraded though.

The only true gripe I have had is zoom and the SP7 for some reason continuously locks up if I use the native front camera and not an externally connected one. I could never figure out what driver issue this was when dealing with the hardware over 2+ years.

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Quote from dougpaw57 :
Wow, I've had almost every version back to the first and I've NEVER experienced what you are talking about. They have all been stellar machines.
Lucky you. All of mine have had major issues with sleep. Not one has worked as intended.
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Quote from jet61007 :
The number one reason I left Apple and came back to windows was because of the surface pro and windows finally fixing sleep/hibernate/power management. I can always bring my SP7 back to life within seconds…

I will say the thing will max out 8GB of RAM and start spiking 4 cores of a CPU with only having something like office and chrome open… nothing that forces it to a crawl or to become non functional or degraded though.

The only true gripe I have had is zoom and the SP7 for some reason continuously locks up if I use the native front camera and not an externally connected one. I could never figure out what driver issue this was when dealing with the hardware over 2+ years.
Mine has no issues with Zoom (thank goodness) and every issue in the book re sleep / standby and battery life. All my / my wife's SP4,5,6,7 have had said issues. Device swaps by MS and fresh OS installs did not solve the problems. It is what it is. Sad.
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I bought this refurb i7 Surface Pro 9, coming from a Surface Pro 7 i5. I hope the differences will be noticeable! User-upgradable SSD will be a big plus. I had the $175 back on $1000 Amex offer on one of my cards. I added the keyboard/pen combo and redeemed enough of my xbox GC to be just over $1,000.
Last edited by guho November 28, 2023 at 04:35 PM.
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Quote from guho :
I bought this refurb i7 Surface Pro 9, coming from a Surface Pro 7 i5. I hope the differences will be noticeable! User-upgradable SSD will be a big plus. I had the 175 back on $1000 Amex offer on one of my cards. I added the keyboard/pen combo and redeemed enough of my xbox GC to be just over $1,000.
Lucky you! You inspired me and I checked. My Platinum only has the spend $500, get $85 back offer. I also have the SP7 i5 8GB, 256GB. It has performance issues. But they are mainly attributable to thermal throttling and the tiny amount of RAM. I'm somewhat sceptical that the thermals are any better on the SP9. I'm also itching to upgrade though. If I'd see a screaming deal, I'd jump, too. The $150 off certainly makes it tempting.
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How is Microsoft Certified Refurbished? Are these returns? Any scratches / dents?
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Quote from 11A :
How is Microsoft Certified Refurbished? Are these returns? Any scratches / dents?
I will know tomorrow when my refurbished $859 i7 16GB/256GB arrives. I hope a sapphire Surface Pro 9 with red keyboard won't look too crazy. Then the hunt will be on for a 2TB SN770M SSD in 2230 form factor.
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Quote from guho :
I will know tomorrow when my refurbished $859 i7 16GB/256GB arrives. I hope a sapphire Surface Pro 9 with red keyboard won't look too crazy. Then the hunt will be on for a 2TB SN770M SSD in 2230 form factor.
Make sure you get a PCIe Gen 3 SSD, Surfaces don't like PCIe Gen 4 SSDs.

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Quote from guho :
I will know tomorrow when my refurbished $859 i7 16GB/256GB arrives. I hope a sapphire Surface Pro 9 with red keyboard won't look too crazy. Then the hunt will be on for a 2TB SN770M SSD in 2230 form factor.
Best of luck, and please let us know.

Does swapping out the SSD void the warranty?

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