Dirac has
Dirac Live Bass Control for Denon AVR-X3800H / AVC-X3800H (Digital Licenses) on sale as listed below when you apply discount coupon
30BCDM23 at checkout.
Note: Discount code does not apply to individual 'Room Correction' licenses.
Thanks to Community Member
undisturbed316 for finding this deal.
Available (prices after discount coupon):
- Dirac Live Bass Control Single Subwoofer $228.85
- Dirac Live Bass Control Multi Subwoofer $327.21
- Upgrade an existing Bass Control Single Subwoofer license to Multi Subwoofer $110.82
- Bundle Offer $425.57
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Single Subwoofer
- Bundle Offer Multi $523.94
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Multi Subwoofer
Features:- Corrects sound gaps and bass decline
- Enhances bass crossover area for smoother reproduction
- Utilizes machine learning for phase co-optimization and supports one or multiple subwoofer (depending on license)
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If you find evidence that they do give you a no hassle 30 day period to see if it improves your correction beyond what Audyssey MultiEQ X32 + the $20 Audyssey app can do, post the link here to let us know.
For me, if that company isn't willing to let you see if it's worth the money, it's a bad policy. It's not like they have to absorb return shipping costs or resell a discounted used product.
Seems to me you could use bass control as a standalone if you only want it tuning your subs, or go with the live + the multi-sub license if you want it doing everything in a multi-sub system. I've always been happy with XT32 but want to give Dirac a try because there seems at least some agreement that is superior. I missed the BF deals on full-bandwith but though somewhere in the ~$250 - 300 range might be worth a shot. XT32 does handle 2 subs, but not to the complexity that the multi-sub Dirac bass control is described to.
I'm probably oversimplifying this but based on the descriptions, to me it seems:
For a no sub or 1 sub system - Dirac full bandwidth is arguably superior to XT32.
For a 2 sub system - XT32 is arguably superior to Dirac full bandwidth alone. Dirac FB + multi-sub bass control would be superior to XT32.
I'm really struggling with seeing the value of Dirac bass control for a single sub, except as a standalone product where you only want sub calibration. Maybe that's the point?
But for me, the $799 package to cover multi-sub systems... I'm not doing that. I'd rather wait until my next AVR upgrade to see how their market / built-in options pan out. Not saying it isn't worth it, but $800 is far too big of a gamble to me to try it. Maybe if the licenses were transferable at least once or twice maybe, but locked to one AVR? Nah.
All mid-to-high tier receivers will have basic speaker distance correction. So you can take a tape measure and tell the speaker how far each channel is. That will give you a pretty good (not perfect) timing delay. But then, you modern high end receiver also mostly likely has some free flavor of room correction software. That will do 90% of what Dirac does.
Dirac does three things on top of all else: it flattens each speaker's curve, chooses a good crossover, and adjusts the level of each speaker. Of all those, I'd argue adjusting the level is the most valuable feature. In my view, you're paying $100's more to get the level correct out of each speaker on top of what you can do for free. Is that worth it?
I'll go a step further. I did my own calibration on a new Onkyo receiver, listened to it for a few weeks, and then did a Dirac calibration. Dirac nailed all 5 speakers, but completely underpowered the sub no matter how hard I tried. I just don't think I'd pay so much $$ out of pocket on top of the brilliant Marantz / Denon / Pioneer etc capabilities that come free with the receiver.
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Seems to me you could use bass control as a standalone if you only want it tuning your subs, or go with the live + the multi-sub license if you want it doing everything in a multi-sub system. I've always been happy with XT32 but want to give Dirac a try because there seems at least some agreement that is superior. I missed the BF deals on full-bandwith but though somewhere in the ~$250 - 300 range might be worth a shot. XT32 does handle 2 subs, but not to the complexity that the multi-sub Dirac bass control is described to.
I'm probably oversimplifying this but based on the descriptions, to me it seems:
For a no sub or 1 sub system - Dirac full bandwidth is arguably superior to XT32.
For a 2 sub system - XT32 is arguably superior to Dirac full bandwidth alone. Dirac FB + multi-sub bass control would be superior to XT32.
I'm really struggling with seeing the value of Dirac bass control for a single sub, except as a standalone product where you only want sub calibration. Maybe that's the point?
But for me, the $799 package to cover multi-sub systems... I'm not doing that. I'd rather wait until my next AVR upgrade to see how their market / built-in options pan out. Not saying it isn't worth it, but $800 is far too big of a gamble to me to try it. Maybe if the licenses were transferable at least once or twice maybe, but locked to one AVR? Nah.
DLBC is just as good as DL if not more and not a marginal difference.
If you look at the brands that carry DL now, you sacrifice a few features to get it.
So you do "pay" for DL, it is not free.
More importantly they do not offer DLBC imo!
The new models added some of those benefits AND the option for DLBC.
Dirac has been around for years, only available with higher end products.
DLBC has always been a purchase option.
Most the people I know that bought those premium products purchased DLBC because of the benefit.
I find it odd on how often people say Dirac Live in heads and shoulders better but Dirac Live Bass Control is a marginal value!
Especially from people that haven't had any personal experience with it!
But everyone believed the RZ70 was a great buy for $1839! 🤣
If you don't think that's a great price, you may not be as big a fan boy as you think! 😜
How ever you have "Dirac", you paid for it, as you mentioned "in the base price".
Dirac Live isn't offered as "multichannel", it's limited or full bandwidth!
This Dirac Live Bass Control isn't "multichannel" either, it's single or multi sub!
"processor" and receiver are two different products.
Either way there is no "processor" that includes this(DLBC) in it's base price.
Why would I buy a 16 channel "processor" when I only need 9 channels!
I could just buy the 3800 for $900 and buy the bundle package for $560 and have pretty much to same thing for MUCH less!
XT32 includes speakers & sub/bass correction.
Dirac is split: DL for speakers, DLBC for sub/overall bass.
D-ART is the new algorithm that works on top of DLBC.
For optimal performance highly recommended 4 subs & core speakers be full/reference range speakers.
low probability it will be offered on these mid level AVRs like the 3800/4800.
As you can see most people don't think DLBC is worth the purchase and many that get these AVRs don't follow those recommendations either.
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They mentioned that the 30 day refund policy still applies if one isnt happy with Dirac results.
Also, the license when purchased is tied to AV processor model. Means if purchased license for a Denon 3800H, it cannot be transfered to a Denon 4800H if you end up selling 3800H.
Also you can transfer ownership of DIRAC license to your buyer if you end up selling your AV receiver.
I'm going to return the Yamaha rx-a4a that I bought
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They mentioned that the 30 day refund policy still applies if one isnt happy with Dirac results.
Dirac or from an authorized distributor; and (ii) must not have used the Software; (iii) must provide proof
of payment for the Software; within thirty (30) calendar days of your receipt of the Software.
ACQUISITIONS OF LICENSES TO SOFTWARE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING THE
EXPIRATION OF THE 30-DAY PERIOD AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE SOFTWARE HAS BEEN
USED. SHIPPING CHARGES AND CREDIT CARD FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE.
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I am planning to take the plunge as Dirac was the primary reason I went with X4800 over C40 - $1k saved will pay for this entire upgrade. Hopefully it turns out measurably better than XT32 otherwise will have to deal with the return.