Dirac has
Dirac Live Bass Control for Denon AVR-X3800H / AVC-X3800H (Digital Licenses) on sale as listed below when you apply discount coupon
30BCDM23 at checkout.
Note: Discount code does not apply to individual 'Room Correction' licenses.
Thanks to Community Member
undisturbed316 for finding this deal.
Available (prices after discount coupon):
- Dirac Live Bass Control Single Subwoofer $228.85
- Dirac Live Bass Control Multi Subwoofer $327.21
- Upgrade an existing Bass Control Single Subwoofer license to Multi Subwoofer $110.82
- Bundle Offer $425.57
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Single Subwoofer
- Bundle Offer Multi $523.94
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Multi Subwoofer
Features:- Corrects sound gaps and bass decline
- Enhances bass crossover area for smoother reproduction
- Utilizes machine learning for phase co-optimization and supports one or multiple subwoofer (depending on license)
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If you find evidence that they do give you a no hassle 30 day period to see if it improves your correction beyond what Audyssey MultiEQ X32 + the $20 Audyssey app can do, post the link here to let us know.
For me, if that company isn't willing to let you see if it's worth the money, it's a bad policy. It's not like they have to absorb return shipping costs or resell a discounted used product.
Seems to me you could use bass control as a standalone if you only want it tuning your subs, or go with the live + the multi-sub license if you want it doing everything in a multi-sub system. I've always been happy with XT32 but want to give Dirac a try because there seems at least some agreement that is superior. I missed the BF deals on full-bandwith but though somewhere in the ~$250 - 300 range might be worth a shot. XT32 does handle 2 subs, but not to the complexity that the multi-sub Dirac bass control is described to.
I'm probably oversimplifying this but based on the descriptions, to me it seems:
For a no sub or 1 sub system - Dirac full bandwidth is arguably superior to XT32.
For a 2 sub system - XT32 is arguably superior to Dirac full bandwidth alone. Dirac FB + multi-sub bass control would be superior to XT32.
I'm really struggling with seeing the value of Dirac bass control for a single sub, except as a standalone product where you only want sub calibration. Maybe that's the point?
But for me, the $799 package to cover multi-sub systems... I'm not doing that. I'd rather wait until my next AVR upgrade to see how their market / built-in options pan out. Not saying it isn't worth it, but $800 is far too big of a gamble to me to try it. Maybe if the licenses were transferable at least once or twice maybe, but locked to one AVR? Nah.
All mid-to-high tier receivers will have basic speaker distance correction. So you can take a tape measure and tell the speaker how far each channel is. That will give you a pretty good (not perfect) timing delay. But then, you modern high end receiver also mostly likely has some free flavor of room correction software. That will do 90% of what Dirac does.
Dirac does three things on top of all else: it flattens each speaker's curve, chooses a good crossover, and adjusts the level of each speaker. Of all those, I'd argue adjusting the level is the most valuable feature. In my view, you're paying $100's more to get the level correct out of each speaker on top of what you can do for free. Is that worth it?
I'll go a step further. I did my own calibration on a new Onkyo receiver, listened to it for a few weeks, and then did a Dirac calibration. Dirac nailed all 5 speakers, but completely underpowered the sub no matter how hard I tried. I just don't think I'd pay so much $$ out of pocket on top of the brilliant Marantz / Denon / Pioneer etc capabilities that come free with the receiver.
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They mentioned that the 30 day refund policy still applies if one isnt happy with Dirac results.
Dirac or from an authorized distributor; and (ii) must not have used the Software; (iii) must provide proof
of payment for the Software; within thirty (30) calendar days of your receipt of the Software.
ACQUISITIONS OF LICENSES TO SOFTWARE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING THE
EXPIRATION OF THE 30-DAY PERIOD AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE SOFTWARE HAS BEEN
USED. SHIPPING CHARGES AND CREDIT CARD FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE.
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"Audyssey has two massive aces up its sleeve: Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume.…
In contrast, Dirac Live doesn't include any of these technologies"
Pretty sure I read that Denon AVR's are gonna allow both audyssey and Dirac to share the dynamic eq and dynamic volume, although most folks recommend against using dynamic volume.
"Audyssey has two massive aces up its sleeve: Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume.…
In contrast, Dirac Live doesn't include any of these technologies"
Pretty sure I read that Denon AVR's are gonna allow both audyssey and Dirac to share the dynamic eq and dynamic volume, although most folks recommend against using dynamic volume.
"There's a bit of a silver lining for Dirac Live and it is this: due to the better phase-response, the sound is somewhat clearer and more intelligible at all volume levels even without changing the EQ."
Let's not cherry pick.
"There's a bit of a silver lining for Dirac Live and it is this: due to the better phase-response, the sound is somewhat clearer and more intelligible at all volume levels even without changing the EQ."
Let's not cherry pick.
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Hmm did anyone else catch how much he talked/brought up about bass integration/mitigation and the work he had to do to dial it in.
How does that align with what Dirac says DLBC offers/does?
https://www.dirac.com/live/bass-control/
Hmmm I wonder if all that is just a "marginal/nothingburger/no value" benefit/product as some keep "preaching" over and over and over!!?
I definitely didn't get that impression or even that Dirac is "head and shoulders" better!
Wonder if having access to those two very good RCs on the same receiver is a benefit?
Especially when you get one included and you don't have to pay for the other unless/until you want to!
Funny how he didn't get downvoted & called a "troll" for making such a "useless" post!
Oh yea forgot, I didn't post it!
Am I happy? Yes, but the upgrade turned out to be just for HDMI 2.1 and dedicated port for butt-kicker (and, of course possibility of DLBC). Manual calibration is a pain any time I make a change. My room is a bit complex so if DLBC does a better job, even if slightly, it's a keeper IMO just because of the time saved. Otherwise will have to figure how to return.
Dirac does allow transferring the license to a new device as long as the new device is the exact same model (for cases where the current one cannot be repaired and must be replaced).
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Am I happy? Yes, but the upgrade turned out to be just for HDMI 2.1 and dedicated port for butt-kicker (and, of course possibility of DLBC). Manual calibration is a pain any time I make a change. My room is a bit complex so if DLBC does a better job, even if slightly, it's a keeper IMO just because of the time saved. Otherwise will have to figure how to return.
I'm glad Dirac allows a 30 day trial, cause I'm not certain that a slight upgrade is worth $560+mic cost. But I'm still learning how to use Dirac and rew, so I'll make the most of the trial
I'm glad Dirac allows a 30 day trial, cause I'm not certain that a slight upgrade is worth $560+mic cost. But I'm still learning how to use Dirac and rew, so I'll make the most of the trial