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Yup. I lucked into my first All Clad many years ago because my ex hated using it since it was "so hard to clean" (I guess she'd never heard of soaking dishes?). Anyway, she's gone now, but the pan's still here and I'll never go back to nonstick.
I ordered D3 sets from this site in the past and the items arrived in essentially new condition, very happy with the quality. Some cosmetic damage to the boxes but the cookware inside was pristine.
D3 is nothing but Aluminum is sandwiched between two stainless steel layers so there are three layers called D3, if D5 then two aluminum and three stainless steel. All are stainless steel cookware

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01-14-2024 at 08:20 AM.
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I have a copper bottom version of this pan and I'm obsessed. That said, I still don't use it a ton, bc I use the Dutch ovens instead all the time and I have a small kitchen.
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How do you keep things from sticking? All my old non stick cookware is like 20 yrs old and needs replacing. I've always avoided stainless because things tend to stick to it.
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How do you keep things from sticking? All my old non stick cookware is like 20 yrs old and needs replacing. I've always avoided stainless because things tend to stick to it.
A few points:

1) There are many types of cookware that call themselves "nonstick" but most likely you're referring to PFTE-coated aluminum (Teflon and its descendants).

2) Nothing will be as "slippery" as a plastic-coated pan, but other types of pans (carbon steel, stainless steel, cast iron, even cast aluminum) can be pretty close IF you learn how to cook with and care for them.

3) If you have a 20 year old nonstick pan, PLEASE throw it away TODAY. The industry would like you to think they are safe as long as you don't overheat them and don't chip or scratch the surface, but over time, the plastic coatings break down and leech carcinogens into your food, and into the air in your kitchen. So you should not buy expensive non-stick pans, and you should just plan to throw them away after 2-3 years.

4) YouTube is a learning chef's best friend. Look up some videos on how to cook without sticking [youtube.com] -- on stainless steel, on carbon steel, on cast iron. You'll see what it takes and decide whether you want to learn the techniques (they each have pros and cons in terms of technique, weight, care, cleaning).

5) Sticking, per se, is not necessarily a bad thing. Look up "fond" and "maillard reaction" and "pan sauces". Foods will stick to a stainless steel pan until the point where they release on their own, leaving a fond that is packed with flavor compounds, and THAT releases easily with the addition of liquid [all-clad.com] (and anything left in the pan after that will clean up easily)

Experienced cooks have zero or maybe one nonstick skillet used only for delicate eggs and fish, then stainless for saucepans, cast iron for dutch ovens, and one or more skillets of stainless, carbon steel, and cast iron.
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How do you keep things from sticking? All my old non stick cookware is like 20 yrs old and needs replacing. I've always avoided stainless because things tend to stick to it.
There are 3 reasons why food sticks in a stainless steel pan:
1) Improper heating of the pan
2) Not using enough fat
3) Putting cold food in the pan

1. Heat up the dry pan over Medium heat until the pan is hot.
You can tell if the pan is hot enough by flinging a few drops of water off your fingertips into the pan.
If the water dances around the pan in little balls, it's at the right temperature. (The Liedenfrost effect)
If the water slowly boils away, heat the pan more.
If the water explodes on contact, turn the heat down and let the pan cool a little.

2. Add your fat to the pan. Use enough cooking oil (extra virgin olive oil, avocado oil, etc).
If adding butter, you will need to use either lower heat, or clarified butter (ghee).
Swirl the oil around the pan once and let the oil come up to temperature.
You can tell the oil is at the right temperature if it starts shimmering or barely smoking.
If it starts smoking, you've gone too hot - wipe out the pan and start again.

3. Put your room-temperature food in the pan. Cold food will make it stick. You want it to start sizzling right away, that puts a very thin layer of steam under the food essentially lifting it up off the surface of the pan. Resist the urge to move the food around! Let it sit it one place and it will release itself when it's ready. (You can poke at it a little to see if it's ready to release). Flip and cook the other side the same way.

P.S. Once you take the food out of the pan, deglaze it with some water or wine or something. Those "burned on" spots are the tasty bits.

Hope that helps!
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Quote from baddress :
There are 3 reasons why food sticks in a stainless steel pan:
1) Improper heating of the pan
2) Not using enough fat
3) Putting cold food in the pan

1. Heat up the dry pan over Medium heat until the pan is hot.
You can tell if the pan is hot enough by flinging a few drops of water off your fingertips into the pan.
If the water dances around the pan in little balls, it's at the right temperature. (The Liedenfrost effect)
If the water slowly boils away, heat the pan more.
If the water explodes on contact, turn the heat down and let the pan cool a little.

2. Add your fat to the pan. Use enough cooking oil (extra virgin olive oil, avocado oil, etc).
If adding butter, you will need to use either lower heat, or clarified butter (ghee).
Swirl the oil around the pan once and let the oil come up to temperature.
You can tell the oil is at the right temperature if it starts shimmering or barely smoking.
If it starts smoking, you've gone too hot - wipe out the pan and start again.

3. Put your room-temperature food in the pan. Cold food will make it stick. You want it to start sizzling right away, that puts a very thin layer of steam under the food essentially lifting it up off the surface of the pan. Resist the urge to move the food around! Let it sit it one place and it will release itself when it's ready. (You can poke at it a little to see if it's ready to release). Flip and cook the other side the same way.

P.S. Once you take the food out of the pan, deglaze it with some water or wine or something. Those "burned on" spots are the tasty bits.

Hope that helps!

If I try to do this with ground beef it always sticks to the bottom and those stick bits wind up burning.
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
If I try to do this with ground beef it always sticks to the bottom and those stick bits wind up burning.

badress is well intentioned (and correct for many situations), but his advice oversimplifies things. As I said above, check out some instructional videos. Sometimes starting with a cold pan can be great. And remember that sticking isn't always bad, that what's sticking now may release if you give it a few more minutes, and that what appears to be burning can actually be the foundation of a very flavorful dish. Cooking on stainless is just different.

I made a killer chicken/rice dish this week in an All-Clad saute pan, starting with 4 large chicken thighs skin-side down in a cold pan with no oil or butter at all. They stuck like hell, and intuition might say to abort and save the chicken. If I tried to move them, it would have been a disastrous mess. But I knew to just leave them for as long as it took for them to release on their own, which probably took 10 minutes. Now the skin was crackling and the rendered fat was in the pan, ready to cook the aromatics (onion, garlic, celery, carrot). Then the same on the other side. Then the aromatics. Then the rice. And now the bottom of the pan is nearly black again. But I add some wine and some stock, and with a little stirring, everything loosens up, and I cover it and put it in the oven (can't do that with nonstick), and out comes an incredibly delicious one-pot meal, and it slides right out of the shiny pan. Nothing sticking to the bottom. No scrubbing required.

As I said above, maybe this isn't for you, but this is how experienced cooks make delicious food. You can't do these things in a non-stick coated pan. But you do have to learn, and probably make some mistakes along the way. I'm still learning, and I've been cooking on stainless for decades.
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
If I try to do this with ground beef it always sticks to the bottom and those stick bits wind up burning.
Sounds like your heat is too high and/or you're letting the beef cook for too long without breaking it up and moving it around. You have to keep it moving pretty regularly. I start 96% lean ground beef in a cold pan with no fat, just a little bit of residual water left from washing the pan, and get no stuck on/burnt bits. When I use a higher fat % and oil it slides around like non-stick.
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Quote from fis :
badress is well intentioned (and correct for many situations), but his advice oversimplifies things. As I said above, check out some instructional videos. Sometimes starting with a cold pan can be great. And remember that sticking isn't always bad, that what's sticking now may release if you give it a few more minutes, and that what appears to be burning can actually be the foundation of a very flavorful dish. Cooking on stainless is just different.

I made a killer chicken/rice dish this week in an All-Clad saute pan, starting with 4 large chicken thighs skin-side down in a cold pan with no oil or butter at all. They stuck like hell, and intuition might say to abort and save the chicken. If I tried to move them, it would have been a disastrous mess. But I knew to just leave them for as long as it took for them to release on their own, which probably took 10 minutes. Now the skin was crackling and the rendered fat was in the pan, ready to cook the aromatics (onion, garlic, celery, carrot). Then the same on the other side. Then the aromatics. Then the rice. And now the bottom of the pan is nearly black again. But I add some wine and some stock, and with a little stirring, everything loosens up, and I cover it and put it in the oven (can't do that with nonstick), and out comes an incredibly delicious one-pot meal, and it slides right out of the shiny pan. Nothing sticking to the bottom. No scrubbing required.

As I said above, maybe this isn't for you, but this is how experienced cooks make delicious food. You can't do these things in a non-stick coated pan. But you do have to learn, and probably make some mistakes along the way. I'm still learning, and I've been cooking on stainless for decades.

"They stuck like hell, and intuition might say to abort and save the chicken. If I tried to move them, it would have been a disastrous mess."

Seems like great information here. I've personally done this panic move more times than I can count and yes it's always been a complete mess.

It's funny how quickly you realize it after the misstep. Funny now, anyway!
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Are stainless and D3 stainless different? If yes what the difference?
D3= 3 ply
D5 = 5 ply

The more plying the more heat retention. I generally like copper core with my stainless, but it depends on your use.
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D3= 3 ply
D5 = 5 ply

The more plying the more heat retention. I generally like copper core with my stainless, but it depends on your use.

It's really more about weight than about counting plies.

Fun fact: Different manufacturers count plies differently. All-Clad D3 has 5 plies, if you count the way some other manufacturers do. It's all in the sticky FAQ thread linked above.
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It's really more about weight than about counting plies.

Fun fact: Different manufacturers count plies differently. All-Clad D3 has 5 plies, if you count the way some other manufacturers do. It's all in the sticky FAQ thread linked above.
::shrug:: that's just what I learned back in culinary school decades ago. Figures they changed it for marketing laugh out loud
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Quote from fis :
It's really more about weight than about counting plies.

Fun fact: Different manufacturers count plies differently. All-Clad D3 has 5 plies, if you count the way some other manufacturers do. It's all in the sticky FAQ thread linked above.

Thanks and I do understand the actual differences between construction mechanisms. Wondering why all clad names some items as D3 stainless and some as just stainless steel. Someone else in this thread commented that it's just a difference in description and that all clad doesn't make pans and pots that are just stainless steel and not at least 3-ply
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Thanks and I do understand the actual differences between construction mechanisms. Wondering why all clad names some items as D3 stainless and some as just stainless steel. Someone else in this thread commented that it's just a difference in description and that all clad doesn't make pans and pots that are just stainless steel and not at least 3-ply
When in doubt with anything in this sale, look the item up on All-Clad's actual website. If they make it, it'll be there, with more detail than you'll find on the 2nds sale website.
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Quote from fis :
badress is well intentioned (and correct for many situations), but his advice oversimplifies things. As I said above, check out some instructional videos. Sometimes starting with a cold pan can be great. And remember that sticking isn't always bad, that what's sticking now may release if you give it a few more minutes, and that what appears to be burning can actually be the foundation of a very flavorful dish. Cooking on stainless is just different.

I made a killer chicken/rice dish this week in an All-Clad saute pan, starting with 4 large chicken thighs skin-side down in a cold pan with no oil or butter at all. They stuck like hell, and intuition might say to abort and save the chicken. If I tried to move them, it would have been a disastrous mess. But I knew to just leave them for as long as it took for them to release on their own, which probably took 10 minutes. Now the skin was crackling and the rendered fat was in the pan, ready to cook the aromatics (onion, garlic, celery, carrot). Then the same on the other side. Then the aromatics. Then the rice. And now the bottom of the pan is nearly black again. But I add some wine and some stock, and with a little stirring, everything loosens up, and I cover it and put it in the oven (can't do that with nonstick), and out comes an incredibly delicious one-pot meal, and it slides right out of the shiny pan. Nothing sticking to the bottom. No scrubbing required.

As I said above, maybe this isn't for you, but this is how experienced cooks make delicious food. You can't do these things in a non-stick coated pan. But you do have to learn, and probably make some mistakes along the way. I'm still learning, and I've been cooking on stainless for decades.

How does the Made In brand of non stick pans compare to this?
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